Muscle escorting (4 schmoes)

[BayGBM]

Gigolos Make Fantasies Come True
Part 3: Some women aren't afraid to admit they're paying for companionship.

http://www.sho.com/sho/gigolos/home
 


$650 = two hours
$6000 = a full weekend
17500 = a week long trip to Paris (does not include expenses)

[chadstallion]

Gigolos Make Fantasies Come True
Part 3: Some women aren't afraid to admit they're paying for companionship.

http://www.sho.com/sho/gigolos/home
 


$650 = two hours
$6000 = a full weekend
17500 = a week long trip to Paris (does not include expenses)

wow. Barry Voorhes was only $1500 for a weekend. Then again, he didn't have a SHO background; just the Giants!

[BayGBM]

wow. Barry Voorhes was only $1500 for a weekend. Then again, he didn't have a SHO background; just the Giants!

You got a bargain!  

[chadstallion]

yup, and he bottomed.

[BayGBM]

yup, and he bottomed.

Let me put on my "surprise face!" 

[BayGBM]

Erik, dead at 30. 

[YellaDawg]

wow. Barry Voorhes was only $1500 for a weekend. Then again, he didn't have a SHO background; just the Giants!

I hired Barry / Totally Huge a few times. He was a nice guy (although emotionally troubled), and yes, he did bottom for me as well. I always took him out for a big meal before our sessions, and he ate a lot. We talked a lot about his football career, and I tried to help him as much as I could outside of the client-bodybuilder relationship. He grew very sad (even more than usual) after the death of his elderly mother, and I think it was an OD on painkiller, sleeping pill type meds that ultimately killed him.

[YellaDawg]

Here is the "new meat" escort that the old schmoes at Muscle Service are posting about. He goes by the name of Big Justin and he is based in Boston. Those vampires at that board are so glad to have some new blood they are falling all over themselves! How long will it take those toxic parasites at the MSS board to suck him dry and spit him out, like they always do?



The first "review" for Justin's services show a very disappointed schmoe that feels like he got played because he only got muscle worship when he wanted more.

http://www.daddysreviews.com/cruise/newest

[BayGBM]

I hired Barry / Totally Huge a few times. He was a nice guy (although emotionally troubled), and yes, he did bottom for me as well. I always took him out for a big meal before our sessions, and he ate a lot. We talked a lot about his football career, and I tried to help him as much as I could outside of the client-bodybuilder relationship. He grew very sad (even more than usual after the death of his elderly mother, and I think it was an OD on painkiller, sleeping pill type meds that ultimately killed him.

I have heard this line many times over the years, and even now it still does not make sense to me.  If one wants to help a prostitute, hiring them to turn tricks is not the way to do it in my view.  Did you "care" about Barry?  If not why were you trying to "help" him? Was it simply so that you could continue to have access to his body?  If you did care about him, why were you patronizing his prostitution services thereby keeping him stuck in that dynamic?

I'm not questioning you so much as the whole john/whore dynamic and the way both parties rationalize their own behavior (to themselves).  

[BayGBM]

Here is the "new meat" escort that the old schmoes at Muscle Service are posting about. He goes by the name of Big Justin and he is based in Boston. Those vampires at that board are so glad to have some new blood they are falling all over themselves! How long will it take those toxic parasites at the MSS board to suck him dry and spit him out, like they always do?

The first "review" for Justin's services show a very disappointed schmoe that feels like he got played because he only got muscle worship when he wanted more.

http://www.daddysreviews.com/cruise/newest

I am not trying to pick a fight, but aren’t you one of the “parasites” you refer to above?  You have said you have been hiring muscle escorts for twenty years in countries all around the world—spending as much as $5000.  If you see those other guys as “vampires” and “toxic parasites” how are you any different?

Barry, whom you hired multiple times, ended up dead.  Do you think you were part of the toxic dynamic that put him in his grave?

[Primemuscle]

I have heard this line many times over the years, and even now it still does not make sense to me.  If one wants to help a prostitute, hiring them to turn tricks is not the way to do it in my view.  Did you "care" about Barry?  If not why were you trying to "help" him? Was it simply so that you could continue to have access to his body?  If you did care about him, why were you patronizing his prostitution services thereby keeping him stuck in that dynamic?

I'm not questioning you so much as I the whole john/whore dynamic and the way both parties rationalize their own behavior (to themselves).  

Having never hired anyone for sex, I don't have experience with these types of relationships. However, I believe you are correct when you suggest that statements like this person's are merely attempts to rationalize or justify one's own experiences or behaviors. Seems to me if someone genuinely wanted to help someone who earned a living as an escort, they'd help them to get a different job and not by hiring them to work as an escort for oneself.

No doubt there are people who at some point in their lives make money off their sexual appeal to others whether that is by being an escort/prostitute or by going into some profession which solely relies on one's being attractive to others. Not all these people end up badly. Some people do parlay using their physical assets into getting them in the door for other ventures. Actors are frequently hired because of their looks, but to be successful in the longterm they must also be good at their craft of acting. If someone honestly believes they have nothing to offer but their bodies in exchange for money, that must eventually feel pretty demeaning. Honestly, I wouldn't personally know since I am a rather ordinary looking individual who would have starved if I ever had to rely on my appearance and sexual attraction for an income. Plus, I like to be the one in control of my life pretty much all the time and in every circumstance.

[YellaDawg]

I have heard this line many times over the years, and even now it still does not make sense to me.  If one wants to help a prostitute, hiring them to turn tricks is not the way to do it in my view.  Did you "care" about Barry?  If not why were you trying to "help" him? Was it simply so that you could continue to have access to his body?  If you did care about him, why were you patronizing his prostitution services thereby keeping him stuck in that dynamic?

I'm not questioning you so much as I the whole john/whore dynamic and the way both parties rationalize their own behavior (to themselves).  

How about, because I do not place a moral value on prostitution or personal drug use, like some people do? Because I don't believe that being a whore. or an addict, or an alcoholic, or even a convict makes someone a person not worthy of compassion? That I could ask the same question to anyone who cheers on their bodybuilding or athlete heroes to be bigger, faster, harder and stronger, yet acts all righteously indignant when they open their eyes and find out what they had to do to get big, fast, hard and strong?

I didn't "care" about Barry any more than I "care" about anyone else I meet whom I have dealings with in business. Unlike the "pathetic" schmoes at that board I refer to, I do not now and never have had any visions of sugar plums dancing in my head about these guys; similar to straight and gay men alike who like to solicit strippers and pole workers, I know they are who they are and do not think my relationship with them creates any special bond between me and them. However, that does not preclude me from treating them with general kindness and respect, as I would with anyone I have a business relationship.

One of my assistants at the office was arrested for DUI and spiraled into a bipolar depression. I am not her close friend and I owe hier nothing more than what the employment laws require, but I still was concerned for her as a human being and reached out to see if she was OK or needed anything in her time of difficulty. I didn't respond, "well, that's your shit. See you on the rebound."

You admittedly posted or were a member of at the same escort-client board you like to derail and deride. You consistently post photos (lurid and otherwise) and derive pleasure from the same big men who escort, use hard drugs and may or may not suffer from similar issues as some of these BBers who have succumbed to death or disease. Is your only difference between you and the schmoes, in your view, is that you do not spend money on them?

Barry's problems started LONG before he chose to escort. I am not and never try to be a Captain Save-A-Ho .However being kind to someone, even those who whore themselves out for money, never hurt.

I hope this helps you to understand my viewpoint.

[YellaDawg]

I am not trying to pick a fight, but aren’t you one of the “parasites” you refer to above?  You have said you have been hiring muscle escorts for twenty years in countries all around the world—spending as much as $5000.  If you see those other guys as “vampires” and “toxic parasites” how are you any different?

Barry, whom you hired multiple times, ended up dead.  Do you think you were part of the toxic dynamic that put him in his grave?

As I said upthread, Barry's problems started LONG before he chose to escort. I was not his priest, or his psychiatrist, or his counselor, or his lover. I was a business client. I have done plenty of business with investment bankers and brokers on Wall Street and internationally who have problems similar to those that Barry and other bodybuilder escorts or g4p bodybuilders have had. That never precluded me from transacting business with them. My concern is only from a human level.

[YellaDawg]

Having never hired anyone for sex, I don't have experience with these types of relationships. However, I believe you are correct when you suggest that statements like this person's are merely attempts to rationalize or justify one's own experiences or behaviors. Seems to me if someone genuinely wanted to help someone who earned a living as an escort, they'd help them to get a different job and not by hiring them to work as an escort for oneself.

If you are referring to me, that's fucking ridiculous. First of all, I'm not a Captain Save-A-Ho. Secondly, this isn't the movie "Pretty Woman" --some people, particularly grown men, actually choose a life as a sex worker, and for whatever reason, prefer it. Some careers and lifestyle choices just attract more damaged people -- like escorting, bodybuilding, pole dancing, porn, acting, investment banking. (If anything, I would probably steer someone away from being a corporate mergers and acquisitions lawyer or an investment banker. You ever seen the rate of alcoholism and addiction in these fields?) Why are you singling out escorts?

Some people smoke cigars or weed. Some people like to high roll in Vegas. I sponsor and hire g4p freaky big-ass bodybuilders with my mad money. I also date the hottest men I can, and they are usually big bodybuilders because that's what I like. When I dated women, they all were hot as fuck too. You may not understand or agree with it, but by your own admission, you're pretty ordinary. I roll in circles where men have their trophies and expect the best for themselves and will gladly pay for it. You don't see too many frumpy women married to my straight colleagues in high finance -- well, not for long, at least. I worked hard to get where I am today, and to keep myself relatively sane, and in fit shape and attractive looks, and that with the money goes a LONG way.

[YellaDawg]

Actors are frequently hired because of their looks, but to be successful in the longterm they must also be good at their craft of acting.

Did you actually type that while keeping a straight face?

[Primemuscle]

If you are referring to me, that's fucking ridiculous. First of all, I'm not a Captain Save-A-Ho. Secondly, this isn't the movie "Pretty Woman" --some people, particularly grown men, actually choose a life as a sex worker, and for whatever reason, prefer it. Some careers and lifestyle choices just attract more damaged people -- like escorting, bodybuilding, pole dancing, porn, acting, investment banking. (If anything, I would probably steer someone away from being a corporate mergers and acquisitions lawyer or an investment banker. You ever seen the rate of alcoholism and addiction in these fields?) Why are you singling out escorts?

Some people smoke cigars or weed. Some people like to high roll in Vegas. I sponsor and hire g4p freaky big-ass bodybuilders with my mad money. I also date the hottest men I can, and they are usually big bodybuilders because that's what I like. When I dated women, they all were hot as fuck too. You may not understand or agree with it, but by your own admission, you're pretty ordinary. I roll in circles where men have their trophies and expect the best for themselves and will gladly pay for it. You don't see too many frumpy women married to my straight colleagues in high finance -- well, not for long, at least. I worked hard to get where I am today, and to keep myself relatively sane, and in fit shape and attractive looks, and that with the money goes a LONG way.

This is not a judgment but rather just an observation; your life seems very shallow to me. I am hardly a romantic, according to my wife, but I am human and as such want more from life than just having sex with hot looking but (according to you), sometimes fucked up people.

[Primemuscle]

Did you actually type that while keeping a straight face?

Are you saying that acting skills have nothing to do with the profession of acting? Keep in mind that the majority of actors are very ordinary looking people. Only some celebrities are perpetually beautiful or handsome. So yes, my face was straight.

[YellaDawg]

This is not a judgment but rather just an observation; your life seems very shallow to me. I am hardly a romantic, according to my wife, but I am human and as such want more from life than just having sex with hot looking but (according to you), sometimes fucked up people.

I very much enjoy my life, I am glad that you enjoy yours. And if you want to live an ordinary life, and avoid shallow, fucked-up, damaged people, I strongly suggest you star away from the "sport" of bodybuilding.

I have found that most highly successful, driven people in any field are very intense, often extremely focused on a sole objective, and quite a bit self-absorbed, and most "ordinary people" find them very hard to relate to. It's a life that most people on the outside looking in say they want, but when all is said and done, most don't have the personality for it.

[Primemuscle]

I very much enjoy my life, I am glad that you enjoy yours. And if you want to live an ordinary life, and avoid shallow, fucked-up, damaged people, I strongly suggest you star away from the "sport" of bodybuilding.

I have found that most highly successful, driven people in any field are very intense, often extremely focused on a sole objective, and quite a bit self-absorbed, and most "ordinary people" find them very hard to relate to. It's a life that most people on the outside looking in say they want, but when all is said and done, most don't have the personality for it.

My interests in the "sport" of bodybuilding may be different than yours. Mainly, I like working out because it makes me feel good and improves my health. While there was a time when I was really focused on being more muscular. Mainly because I had been such a twink as a kid that I wanted to be more manly looking as an adult, but also because I am a bit of a control freak and one can, to some degree, control many of the aspects of bodybuilding; things such as how much weight they can lift and what the results of an exercise routine will be. Clearly one doesn't have total control because there are other factors such as genetics that play into it too.

Even when I was really focused on being big, I didn't ever want to end up looking like a circus freak or a cartoon superhero. I just wanted to look fit and healthy with a little size. These days, I am rethinking the size part because being a senior citizen maintaining both size and good health seems somewhat counter-productive. Anyway, like I wrote somewhere else no one really wants to look at some old fart in a thong and clothes definitely look much better on leaner people.

My friends usually describe me as being very laid-back and not very intense at all. One friend of mine once told me that I walked as if I had nowhere to be. I took that as a compliment. However, when I am working out, I am working out and not standing around shooting the breeze like some folks do.

[chadstallion]

finally, this is turning into a great thread to read.
after Barry and i played a couple times he did offer up a long term-monthly service fee of $1000. Like a 'retainer fee'. I would deposit the !000. in his account and I would be eligible for a minimum of two visits per month. I thanked him for this novel idea but declined. I'm guessing I'm not the only one of his clients this offer was presented to.

[BayGBM]

finally, this is turning into a great thread to read.
after Barry and i played a couple times he did offer up a long term-monthly service fee of $1000. Like a 'retainer fee'. I would deposit the !000. in his account and I would be eligible for a minimum of two visits per month. I thanked him for this novel idea but declined. I'm guessing I'm not the only one of his clients this offer was presented to.

Just think how cheated you'd feel had you made your regular deposit, and the next time you called him you couldn't reach him--because he croaked!  Your money would be gone with no chance for a refund or redress. 

[chadstallion]

Just think how cheated you'd feel had you made your regular deposit, and the next time you called him you couldn't reach him--because he croaked!  Your money would be gone with no chance for a refund or redress. 

which is a great reason why I didn't take up his kind offer.
i wasn't looking for a long term service contract.

[io856]

Just think how cheated you'd feel had you made your regular deposit, and the next time you called him you couldn't reach him--because he croaked!  Your money would be gone with no chance for a refund or redress.  

regular deposit of semen?  

[chadstallion]

regular deposit of semen?  

for once I let a pun/ironic statement slide and someone else highlights it!  lol

[YellaDawg]

IFBB pro Steve Namat doing g4p nude j/o posing.

http://mymusclevideo.com/media/27294/Steve_Namat_nude_webcam/


IFBB pro Manuel Romero doing nude g4p posing.

http://mymusclevideo.com/media/27290/Manuel_Romero_webcam/