Most Prohormones May be Gone in SIX Months!

[Alexander D]

Many of you need to forget the part about pro-hormones and supplements, the problem here is the FDA is getting ultimate control to do whatever they want, period. Whether a product is safe or not if the FDA, aka big pharma, feels that its impeding on their revenues they will tell the FDA to pull it. This has to do with our rights in America. Why would you want the government telling you what you can and cannot put in your body? If you think they are looking out for your welfare then they would not be approving all of these drugs that you see advertised on TV every night with symptoms that range from heart attack to death. And of course tobacco would be illegal.

Americans are not dieing from prohormones, steroids or supplements, they're dying from alcohol, tobacco, prescription drugs, pesticides in our foods causing cancer, etc. and even OTC drugs like Tylenol and Aspirin.

You all need to wake up and realize what I am trying to tell you here is MORE American rights are being taken from us and more government control is being put in place.

Relax broseph, the world is going to end in 2012 anyway... Paris Hilton just came out with a new line of mens cologne and Kim K is going to start doing REAL hollywood movies. lol

[IronMagazine.com]

That doesn't come as a surprise.  Just the other day, Obama signed the extension for the Patriot Act to be active for another year.  

Exactly, most Americans don't even know what the Patriot Act is! It was sold on fear to "protect us" from terrorism, however anyone with any intelligence that decided to read into this bill a little further found that all Americans just lost most of their constitutional rights when it was passed.

The Dietary Safety Act of 2010 was sold the same way, it just appears that the FDA is protecting us from harmful or tainted food and "dangerous" supplements, that is not what its about! If the FDA wants to take Creatine off the market they can and they don't need any reason to do it other than they think its harmful...do you guys get it?

[OneMoreRep]

Dreamy!!



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[Jack T. Cross]

do you guys get it?

Yes, it's called fascism.  Corporate controlled environments are known for it.  They use a police-state to enforce it.  We get it, but are unhappy about it.

[w8m8]

You all need to wake up and realize what I am trying to tell you here is MORE American rights are being taken from us and more government control is being put in place.

I've always liked you .... but I think you sometimes forget that common sense isn't so common here .... I totally agree with the quoted statement ... but there are too many people who walk through their days unaware of what's going on in this country .. but yet they can recite rap lyrics and sit-com storylines verbatim

Not everyone cares what is on the horizon for this country ... too many just want to make it to the weekend and buy a new video game

[w8m8]

Off hand, I am not sure if big pharma groups produce multivits like you see OTC in stores. I have never prescribed one, that is for sure. But really, this isnt where the focus of my training is. I'm having dinner with a buddy of mine tonight who is a family practice doc, and I'll see what he has to say about the topic. I believe Centrum is a private company, but they were shown in a recent study to have the most accurate label claims when compared to other brands of Multi-vits like GNC brand, Vit Shoppe Brand etc. I'm with you on avoiding most of the supplement companies that target bodybuilders. It's these companies and their outrageous label claims that have prompted the FDA to get involved in this industry.

So, you, in your supposed role as a doctor, have never heard of the OTC multivitamin product named Geritol, as manufactured by the BILLION DOLLAR GlaxoSmithkline?
 
http://www.gsk.com/products/consumer-healthcare/geritol.htm
 
hahahahaha, oh brother, you are a TOTAL fucking fraud!
 
Seriously, just 'what' is it with you black fellas, vis a vis, feeling the need to bullshit your way through life?

[IronMagazine.com]

I think in a couple of years when dietary supplements have to be prescribed by a doctor, yes I am talking about a multiple vitamin, creatine, etc., many people will be pissed off and wonder how it all happened, well I am telling you here how its happening.

[Van_Bilderass]

Off hand, I am not sure if big pharma groups produce multivits like you see OTC in stores. I have never prescribed one, that is for sure.

I believe Centrum is a private company, but they were shown in a recent study to have the most accurate label claims when compared to other brands of Multi-vits like GNC brand, Vit Shoppe Brand etc.

Quick search says Pfizer manufactures Centrum vitamins.

http://www.pfizer.com/research/rd_works/pearl_river.jsp

Bayer makes Flintstones vitamins. 

http://flintstonesvitamins.com/

[Alexander D]

Quick search says Pfizer manufactures Centrum vitamins.

http://www.pfizer.com/research/rd_works/pearl_river.jsp

Ok thanks!! News to me... like I said, they were the most reputable company in a recent study that came out... Now that i know Pfizer makes them, i wonder if Pfizer sponsored this study lol

[Disgusted]

Surgeonboy is getting owned.

[Alexander D]

So, you, in your supposed role as a doctor, have never heard of the OTC multivitamin product named Geritol, as manufactured by the BILLION DOLLAR GlaxoSmithkline?
 
http://www.gsk.com/products/consumer-healthcare/geritol.htm
 
hahahahaha, oh brother, you are a TOTAL fucking fraud!
 
Seriously, just 'what' is it with you black fellas, vis a vis, feeling the need to bullshit your way through life?

what part of OFF HAND, do you not understand you psycho drugged-up ADHD hypomanic c u n t? Ok yes, I've heard of Geritol. Fantastic.

Get off my cock already.

[IronMagazine.com]

DEA to legalize marijuana chemical for Big Pharma but keep it a crime for everyone else
http://www.ironmagazine.com/blog/2011/dea-to-legalize-marijuana-chemical-for-big-pharma-but-keep-it-a-crime-for-everyone-else/

[Disgusted]

what part of OFF HAND, do you not understand you psycho ADHD hypomanic c u n t? Ok yes, I've heard of Geritol. Fantastic.

Get off my cock already.

hahahahahaaa profound words of a surgeon.

[Alexander D]

hahahahahaaa profound words of a surgeon.

says the GETBIG EXPERT lmao...  best of luck in real life bro!

[Disgusted]

says the GETBIG EXPERT lmao...  best of luck in real life bro!

Actually you could be a surgeon, you haven't gotten a damm thing right so far about nutrition. Lol

[w8m8]

you psycho drugged-up ADHD hypomanic c u n t?

Get off my cock already.

don't flatter yourself ... I would sooner jump into a wood chipper than onto your widdle weewee ... call me picky too

 

Ok thanks!! News to me...

Yeah, we guessed that much, monkey brains.
 
You do realise you have been dismantled by Van, of whom, has employed his usual, subtle method?
 
It is, none the less, nice to see you thanking him for his 'assistance' though, no stranger to oblivion that you are.
 
hahahahahahahahahaha  

[Alexander D]

Actually you could be a surgeon, you haven't gotten a damm thing right so far about nutrition. Lol

That actually legit made me LOL!!!! nice one bro!


w8 can pop another ritalin and suck my big nigguh cock later.

[OneMoreRep]

Actually you could be a surgeon, you haven't gotten a damm thing right so far about nutrition. Lol

In his defense, most surgeons know very, VERY little about Internal Medicine and even less about nutrition.  Most surgeons finish med school to only then go into a 5-year general surgery residency depending on the specialty.  Most of that shit from med school goes right out the door.  Instead of clouding their heads with the fundamental crap that will not serve them any use, they keep their heads wrapped around their sub-speciality.  

I mean, look at Orthopaedic surgeons.  They do 4 years of med school, followed by a 5-year orthopaedic surgery residency, then followed by another 2 years of a sub-specialty in orthopedics.  Seven years of orthopedics versus four years of a crammed med school education, something has to give...

Would you ask that guy about any nutritional advice or any true medical advice?

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[OneMoreRep]

Come to think about it, most doctors I know, don't even try to give out nutritional advice and instead refer their patients to a nutritionist.

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[Disgusted]

My brother in law is a Dr very smart above averge in the field but admittedly he knows little about diet, nothing wrong with that. Bottom line is the FDA would love to yank all vitamins and minerals off the market.

[maxkane69]

And for the majority of the population who eat a healthy diet- they don't need to take a multi-vitamin... those with specific nutritional deficiencies, or health issues and/or are on medications that deplete various vitamins/minerals (only one i can think off of the top of my head is Methotrexate depleting Folic acid) These people can go to their doctor, get a script for folic acid or whatever and go to the pharmacy and pick it up for 5 bucks and be sure that they are taking 100% pure quality product... not blinding trusting some supplement company with piss poor quality control, retarded marketing, no evidence-based research... etc Youre just pissed because you arent going to be able to sell your Horny Goat Weed anymore  

Thank you Alexander D for telling the truth to this fucking snake oil salesmen and  morons who believe in  the worthless garbage called supplements!

[Disgusted]

Come to think about it, most doctors I know, don't even try to give out nutritional advice and instead refer their patients to a nutritionist.

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and sadly any nutritionist that got a college degree knows very little about nutrtition.

[Alexander D]

In his defense, most surgeons know very, VERY little about Internal Medicine and even less about nutrition.  Most surgeons finish med school to only then go into a 5-year general surgery residency depending on the specialty.  Most of that shit from med school goes right out the door.  Instead of clouding their heads with the fundamental crap that will not serve them any use, they keep their heads wrapped around their sub-speciality.  

I mean, look at Orthopaedic surgeons.  They do 4 years of med school, followed by a 5-year orthopaedic surgery residency, then followed by another 2 years of a sub-specialty in orthopedics.  Seven years of orthopedics versus four years of a crammed med school education, something has to give...

Would you ask that guy about any nutritional advice or any true medical advice?

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My training was actually longer than that... My general surgery residency was 7 years total. 5 years clinical, 2 years mandatory research in between our PGY-2 and PGY-3 year. It was brutal actually, especially when we came out of the lab as a PGY-3 and struggled to do a Lap Chole's and such!! It came back pretty quick tho... I am now in my last of 3 years of surgical oncology fellowship. it was 2 years clinical and im doing an extra year of research, which is why i am able to sit on the computer all day long and mess with these idiots.

Either way, i've said nothing that is incorrect. I may not know everything about which pharma company makes X vitamin, but my stance on the supplement industry as a whole, specifically the companies that target bodybuilders remains completely unchanged. The end.

[Disgusted]

My training was actually longer than that... My general surgery residency was 7 years total. 5 years clinical, 2 years mandatory research in between our PGY-2 and PGY-3 year. It was brutal actually, especially when we came out of the lab as a PGY-3 and struggled to do a Lap Chole's and such!! It came back pretty quick tho... I am now in my last of 3 years of surgical oncology fellowship. it was 2 years clinical and im doing an extra year of research, which is why i am able to sit on the computer all day long and mess with these idiots.

Either way, i've said nothing that is incorrect. I may not know everything about which pharma company makes X vitamin, but my stance on the supplement industry as a whole, specifically the companies that target bodybuilders remains completely unchanged. The end.

Translation I better think up an excuse as to why I'm on the computer all day. Hahahahahahaha

[Alexander D]

Translation I better think up an excuse as to why I'm on the computer all day. Hahahahahahaha

Nah bro, no excuses needed. I'm enjoying this while I can. "Real life" starts in July.

Whats your excuse, Mr. Expert?