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240 - I dont watch TV other than possibly 15 minutes of mornin joe in the am and the end of the yankees games.   I'm not kidding.  I watch no TV whatsoever.   

It's not just TV.   It's internet media too.  Drudge "BYE", HP "Weiner out", RawStory "Weiner to resign".

This little prick congressman matters nothing.  nothing at all.  yet the media (left/right/middle, and tv/internet/print) talk about the sex story because viewers prefer that over war, debt or gun stories.

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Deadly Incompetence
 
Posted 06/15/2011 06:55 PM ET
 



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Scandal: Given the federal government's batting average, another failure should come as no surprise. But sometimes the incompetence strains believability. Case in point: "Operation Fast and Furious."

That's the code name for what the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives thought was a good idea: Put large numbers of semiautomatic weapons into the hands of Mexican gangsters, wait until they commit crimes, then track them.

Mexico is in the throes of a civil war that pits drug cartels against the government. The drug gangs are winning, having killed 34,000 people in the past five years.

So just on the surface, "Fast and Furious" has to be one of the dumbest operations ever carried out by a U.S. agency. Dig a little deeper, and it's also deadly.

Higher-ups at the ATF were warned repeatedly by their own agents that the plan was dangerous and unworkable. But the bosses ignored the warnings and even punished those who told them the obvious truth.

"Every time we questioned that order, there was punitive action," ATF agent John Dodson told the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, which is holding hearings on the operation.

Dodson's tale is as predictable as it is tragic. The ATF lost track of as many as 1,800 of the semiautomatic weapons it put into circulation. Many of the weapons were used to commit crimes. And two of them were found at the murder scene of an ATF agent.

"Operation Fast and Furious contributed to the increasing violence and deaths in Mexico," the committee's report said. "This result was regarded with giddy optimism by ATF supervisors hoping that guns recovered at crime scenes in Mexico would provide the nexus to straw (go-between) purchasers in Phoenix."

Said Darrell Issa, chairman of the House committee: "ATF agents have shared chilling accounts of being ordered to stand down as criminals in Arizona walked away with guns headed for Mexican drug cartels."

So who's responsible for this travesty? The Justice Department has been subpoenaed by the committee to provide information about the errant program, but it has refused to cooperate.

Top ATF officials have denied knowing details of the program. But it's clear from emails gathered by the committee that ATF acting director Kenneth Melson knew what was going on and didn't stop it.

Gun-control advocates try to demonize American gun owners by noting that two-thirds of Mexico's weapons come from north of the border. Now it turns out the U.S. government is the biggest gunrunner.

Thousands have died on both sides of the border as the drug war spreads. Deadly incompetence of the kind displayed by U.S. bureaucrats in Operation Fast and Furious must not go unpunished.


http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/Article/575514/201106151855/Deadly-Incompetence.htm



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Eric Holder needs to be jailed for life.   He is a plague on this nation along with obama.   

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LOL @ blaming incompetence!


I don't.  I think it's much shadier.  I'm a CTer, of course :)


Look at your  neighborhood bar - if there's not a fight for 3 weeks, the bouncer will START one.  it's called job security ;)

Look at your border - if there's not a war/violence, a whole lot of agencies lose their funding.  So they dump some guns into the mix to give the bad guys a chance - and voila, they get a shitload of funding to stop the violence.

just a silly CT, 33?

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LOL @ blaming incompetence!


I don't.  I think it's much shadier.  I'm a CTer, of course :)


Look at your  neighborhood bar - if there's not a fight for 3 weeks, the bouncer will START one.  it's called job security ;)

Look at your border - if there's not a war/violence, a whole lot of agencies lose their funding.  So they dump some guns into the mix to give the bad guys a chance - and voila, they get a shitload of funding to stop the violence.

just a silly CT, 33?



I believe that Obama and Holder came up with this to demonize gun owners and gun dealers so that they could push AWB2 as well as shut down a lot od dealers. 


obama and holder both should be jailed for life.   Both are traitors, both are treasonous communists, both are sleeper cell terrorist marxists, both are radical alinskyite bomb throwers, both are subversive and seditious radicals, and its becoming clearer by the day.   

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Statement by Governor Jan Brewer - Federal Operation Fast and Furious placed Arizonans at risk
Office of the Governor State of Arizona ^ | June 15, 2011 | Janice K. Brewer


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"I am outraged by findings in a new Congressional report that alleges federal agents were instructed to stand aside and do nothing as up to 2,000 weapons were illegally purchased in Arizona and resold. In many cases, the end result appears to have been the arming of violent drug cartels south of the border.

"During Operation Fast and Furious in 2010, according to this report, agents with the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco & Firearms were ordered to simply track these „straw buyer‟ weapons sales but not intervene. Longtime federal agents have now testified before Congress that allowing these weapons to leave the premises, a practice generally known as 'gun walking,' was a marked departure from accepted law enforcement practices.

"ATF agents lost track of many of these weapons, including assault weapons and .50 caliber sniper rifles. A significant number undoubtedly found their way to Mexican drug cartels. Tragically, two AK-47s traced back to Operation Fast and Furious later turned up at the crime scene near Rio Rico, Arizona, where Arizona Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry was murdered by bandits. Authorities are still looking for the murder weapon.

"If the allegations contained in this Congressional report are accurate, then Operation Fast and Furious endangered the lives of innocent people on both sides of the border. The people of Arizona deserve answers from the Department of Justice and ATF as to how this could have been sanctioned, let alone encouraged. We may never know how many weapons illegally sold as part of this operation later turned up at a crime scene. But the connection between this failed federal operation and the death of Border Patrol Agent Terry is clear. The Congressional report puts it best: 'The death of Border Agent Brian Terry was likely a preventable tragedy.'"

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The Definitive Scandal: ‘Gunwalker’ Much Worse Than ‘Iran-Contra’
Pajamas Media ^ | June 16, 2011 | Bob Owens




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Pay attention to this era-defining event: The 2,000+ weapons are implicated in an estimated 150 shootings of Mexican officers and soldiers, two American officers, and an unknown number of civilians.

On October 5, 1986, a former U.S. Air Force C-123 transport plane was shot down in Nicaragua. The pilots and radio operator perished when the plane crashed, but a former U.S. Marine who was a cargo handler on the aircraft was able to parachute to safety. He was captured by the Nicaraguan government.

The former Marine, Eugene Hasenfus, claimed to be a cargo handler for the CIA. His capture and trial began the unraveling of what became known as the Iran-Contra Affair, which saw 14 Reagan-era officials indicted and eleven convictions for a plot that traded arms to Iran for hostages and illegally funded Nicaragua’s anti-communist rebels.

On December 14, 2010, a special unit of the U.S. Border Patrol came across a group of heavily armed suspects near Rio Rico, Arizona. The Border Patrol team identified themselves as law enforcement officers, at which point the armed men open fire. Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry was hit in the pelvis by a single bullet and died the next morning. One of the suspects was captured, and two AK-pattern semiautomatic rifles recovered at the scene were identified by serial number as weapons that the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives (ATF) — acting in concert with and with the blessing of the U.S. Department of Justice (DOJ) — allowed weapons smugglers to purchase at U.S. gun shops. The weapons were just two of more than 2,000 firearms that ATF supervisors and the highest levels of DOJ management allowed to be “walked” across the border to narco-terrorist drug cartels in Mexico, in a scandal that promises to be more damning and deadly than Iran-Contra.

The ATF named their operation Fast and Furious, but it will go down in history by its more descriptive title: “Gunwalker.”

The House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform is holding hearings this week on Gunwalker, and seems to be squaring up for a political duel with the Obama administration, which is seeking to block all access to official information about the operation. To date, the information collected by the committee has come from ATF whisteblowers, agents inside the operation who fought against senior government officials who were “giddy” over the death and violence from the roughly 2000+ weapons that they allowed smugglers to take across the border — weapons that seemed to be raising the body count in what was arguably becoming a Mexican civil war.

A damning and detailed 51-page report — The Department of Justice’s Operation Fast and Furious: Accounts of ATF Agents (.pdf) — was released by the committee on Tuesday. The report captured testimony from ATF field agents who fought with their supervisors over orders that flew in direct contradiction to their primary order: to always follow the suspect with the gun and always interdict to keep the weapon from being used in a crime.

The report’s findings:

“DOJ and ATF inappropriately and recklessly relied on a 20-year-old ATF Order to allow guns to walk.” The agencies misrepresented the intention of the order to justify their actions.

“Supervisors told the agents to ‘get with the program’ because senior ATF officials had sanctioned the operation.” At least one agent was cautioned that if he didn’t stop complaining about the dangerous nature of the operation, he would find himself out of a job, and lucky to be working in a prison.

“Operation Fast and Furious contributed to the increasing violence and deaths in Mexico. This result was regarded with giddy optimism by ATF supervisors hoping that guns recovered at crime scenes in Mexico would provide the nexus to straw purchasers in Phoenix.” ATF officials were seemingly unconcerned over the deaths of Mexican law enforcement officers, soldiers, and innocent civilians, noting that you had to “scramble a few eggs” to make an omelette, in a callous disregard or human life.

Senior ATF personnel including Acting Director Ken Melson, and senior Department of Justice officials at least up to an assistant attorney general, were well aware of and supported the operation.

Department of Justice officials hid behind semantics to lie and deny that they allowed guns to be walked across the border.

When asked by the Oversight Committee how many of 1,750 specific weapons that “walked” under orders of the ATF and DOJ could have been interdicted if agents were allowed to act as they were trained, the agents answered they could have stopped every single one.

The more than 2,000 weapons that the Obama Justice Department allowed to be delivered to Mexican narco-terrorist cartels are thought to have been used in the shooting of an estimated 150 Mexican law enforcement officers and soldiers battling the cartels. Two American law enforcement officers have also presumably fallen prey to these weapons, along with an unknown number of civilians on both sides of the border.

President Barack Obama’s Department of Justice has purposefully armed narco-terrorist drug cartels that have been accused of bombings, ambushes, mass murders, public executions, and the assassination of police, politicians, and civic leaders.

Obama’s Justice Department armed the enemy of our neighbor and ally, providing enough arms to equip ten infantry companies, or two battalions, of violent drug dealers.

Iran-Contra was a misguided attempt to trade arms for hostages and supply a covert supply of arms to rebels fighting against a communist dictatorship during the Cold War.

Gunrunner was an attempt to develop enough gun-running evidence to bring down a cartel, and instead supplied thousands of arms to drug cartels locked in a life-or-death struggle with a key U.S. ally and trading partner.

You tell me which is worse.

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PROOF AG HOLDER COMMITTED PERJURY BEFORE CONGRESS - BUSTED!!!
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Taxpayer Funded Beer Bash, Ball Games and Scavenger Hunts at Holder DOJ
Big Government ^ | June 16, 2011 | J. Christian Adams





With the real unemployment rate above 16 percent, it is a perfect time to throw a lavish party for high paid federal employees at Eric Holder’s Department of Justice. At least Eric Holder thinks so.

The Civil Rights Division at the Justice Department, the same unit that dismissed the slam dunk voter intimidation lawsuit against the New Black Panther Party and forced Dayton (OH) to hire firefighters who flunked employment tests, is throwing an alcohol-fueled bash during work hours for 815 employees.

I have obtained the invitation posted internally to all 815 Civil Rights Division employees. It reads:

“It’s Time to Get Together, So Save the Date – It’s time to open up and let the sun shine in!”

I’ll wager if a Freedom of Information Act request was sent to DOJ about the costs of the beer bash and lost employee time, there wouldn’t be much sunshine.

The invitation continues:


“The Civil Rights Division will host a get-together on Thursday, June 30th in the Main Justice Courtyard, from 3:00 p.m. Until 6:00 p.m. Beer, wine and snacks will be served. Come on out and enjoy the weather and say hello to your co-workers! Hope to see you there! (Rain/extreme heat date: Wednesday, July 13th, 2011 – Great Hall). Please contact Kathy Anderson in the Executive Office by email or on 202-514-5577 if you have any questions. “

Sounds like fun, courtesy of the United States taxpayers. Instead of working, hundreds of federal employees will be tapping kegs. Instead of earning their GS-15 ($123,758 – $155,500) salaries, they will be sipping Chardonnay while other Americans drive trucks, mow lawns or continue their long desperate search for employment.

The Main Justice Courtyard is in the center of the Robert F. Kennedy DOJ building and has fountains and landscaped terraces. It also has two large drive-thru open air gates on 9th and 10th street where members of the public could actually come and watch the party, and loudly petition the government about their grievance for holding such a tone-deaf party.

If that happens, you can bet the party will move to “extreme heat date” in the quiet confines of the Great Hall, inside the building.

Also invited to the party are numerous Senior Executive Service employees making $145,700 to $199,700. This Division has gone on a hiring spree since the inauguration and hired over 130 new high paid attorneys even though Assistant Attorney General Tom Perez informed employees they don’t have enough money from Congress to do it, even while DOJ holds employee scavenger hunts and pays for days at the ballpark watching Washington Nationals games.

After President Obama joked about the failed stimulus plan and the not-so shovel ready recipients of trillions of dollars, it seems an odd time for federal employees to be imbibing on the taxpayer’s dime during work hours. Then again, they probably didn’t count on “much sunshine.”

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Issa asks THE question at 'gunwalker' hearing; anti-gunners scramble for excuses
St. Louis Gun Rights Examiner ^ | 16 June, 2011 | Kurt Hofmann





Recently, we discussed Congressman Darrell Issa's (R-CA) explanation of what this week's (and upcoming) "Project Gunwalker" hearings have been (and will be) about:

This is not a discovery process of what happened--we know what happened. We know that this administration, at the highest levels, approved a process that allowed thousands of high-powered weapons--basically AK-47 and M-16 look-alikes--to go to the worst of the worst on both sides of the borders, that those weapons have been used to commit crimes, and they have led to the death of federal agents on our side of the border, obviously, also Mexicans on their side of the border. This is known. The real question is what were they thinking.

Indeed--what were they thinking? In yesterday's hearing Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (BATFE) Special Agent John Dodson (the first whistleblower to come forward publicly) and Special Agent Peter Forcelli made clear over and over again that the "gunwalking" had no value as a law enforcement tool, and no conceivable chance of attaining any value. One example, as Dodson explains to Congressman Jason Chaffetz (R-UT):

Chaffetz: I mean, what was the goal here?

Dodson: Sir, I can tell you what I was told. I was told that the goal is to ultimately target and bring an entire cartel to prosecution.

Chaffetz: How were they going to do that? The suspected cartels were in Mexico, were they not?

Dodson: Yes sir, they were. I have no idea how they planned to do that by this operation, or how it was designed to function.

And in fact, no one can adequately begin to explain (or, really, even inadequately explain) how this was supposed to work. The described plan is, as we've discussed before, a drug cartel-busting strategy equivalent of the Underpants


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Re: AG Eric Holder - FAIL
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Operation Fast and Furious should end Holder tenure
Washington Examiner ^ | 06/16/11 | Examiner Editorial




Watergate cliches though they are, two questions beg to be asked about the exploding Fast and Furious scandal at the U.S. Department of Justice: What did Attorney General Eric Holder know and when did he know it concerning the underlying concept, operational protocols and legal status of the Operation Fast and Furious program in the Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms bureau?

Those questions gained special relevance Wednesday when four ATF agents testified before the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee and squarely contradicted a Feb. 4, 2011, claim by a department spokesman that DOJ did not approve of the program that sanctioned the illegal sale here in America by legitimate gun dealers of assault weapons to representatives of Mexican drug cartels. The idea behind the program was that the hundreds of firearms thus sold would then be traced from specific crimes, thus enabling prosecutions of the individuals involved.

The agents testified that Assistant U.S. Attorney Emory Hurley, a Phoenix-based appointee of President Obama, "orchestrated" Operation Fast and Furious. ATF Phoenix field office supervisor Peter Forcelli, for example, told the committee: "I have read documents that indicate that his boss, U.S. Attorney Dennis Burke, also agreed with the direction of the case." That direction was established sometime after Obama was inaugurated in 2009 when Phoenix ATF agents, breaking with long-established agency practice, were ordered to monitor, but not stop, gun sales to suspected gun traffickers. The agents testified that Phoenix ATF supervisor David Voth "was jovial, if not, not giddy, but just delighted" when Fast and Furious guns were subsequently recovered at multiple Mexican drug busts. And emails released Thursday by Rep. Darrell Issa,R-Calif., revealed that acting director Kenneth Melson even arranged to watch live feeds from ATF cameras in gun stores being used by the program while sitting at his desk.

But delight turned to devastation on Dec. 14, 2010 when two Fast and Furious rifles were found at the scene of Border Agent Brian Terry's murder approximately 18 miles inside the U.S. border with Mexico in the Arizona desert. The program ended the next day. Special Agent Larry Alt told the committee that Terry's death was the entirely foreseeable result of Operation Fast and Furious: "You can't allow thousands of guns to go south of the border without an expectation that they are going to be recovered eventually in crimes and people are going to die." There had also been panic among ATF officials when news first broke that Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, D-Ariz., had been shot because they feared the weapon used might be one of those sold via Operation Fast and Furious.

Documents released by the Issa panel make it clear that Operation Fast and Furious was well-known and enthusiastically supported at the highest leveIs of ATF. That means the program had to have been supported elsewhere within the Justice Department. Thus, it is inconceivable that Holder did not know about Operation Fast and Furious. But even if he didn't know, he clearly should have. Either way, Wednesday's hearing provided the latest evidence that it's past time for Holder to go.









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Re: AG Eric Holder - FAIL
« Reply #134 on: June 17, 2011, 11:26:01 AM »
Holder, Napalitano (Big Sis), Geither, Salazar, Sebelius, should all be fired due to total incompetency.  Obama's cabinet is such a joke.
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Issa: DOJ Covering Up on Mexican Gun-Running Scandal
Cybercast News Service ^ | 6/17/11 | Fred Luca
Posted on June 17, 2011 8:37:37 PM EDT by Nachum

House Oversight and Government Reform Chairman Darrell Issa (R.-Calif.) told CNSNews.com in an interview that he believes the Justice Department is covering up information relevant to a congressional investigation of an operation in which the department knowingly allowed intermediaries of Mexican drug cartels to purchase guns at licensed firearms dealers in the United States and then get away without being arrested or the guns being retrieved. Last December, two of those guns ended up at the scene of the murder of a U.S. Border Patrol agent who was killed by alleged agents

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Head of ATF Is Likely to Go
Fox News ^ | June 17, 2011
Posted on June 18, 2011 7:35:40 AM EDT by stevie_d_64

The Justice Department is expected to oust the head of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, according to people familiar with the matter, amid a troubled federal antitrafficking operation that has grown into the agency's biggest scandal in nearly two decades.

Moves toward the replacement of Kenneth Melson, acting ATF director since April 2009, could begin next week, although the precise sequence of events remains to be decided, these people said.

The shakeup shows the extent of the political damage caused by the gun-trafficking operation called Fast and Furious, which used tactics that allowed suspected smugglers to buy large numbers of firearms. Growing controversy over the program has paralyzed a long-beleaguered agency buffeted by partisan battles. The ATF has been without a Senate-confirmed director since 2006, with both the Bush and Obama administrations unable to overcome opposition from gun-rights groups to win approval of nominees.

In November, President Barack Obama nominated Andrew Traver, the head of the ATF's Chicago office, as permanent ATF director. The nomination stalled in the Senate after the National Rifle Association said Traver had a "demonstrated hostility" to the rights of gun owners.

Traver is set to travel to Washington on Tuesday to meet with Attorney General Eric Holder and Deputy Attorney General James Cole, the people said. The administration is weighing whether to name Traver as acting director or choose another interim chief while awaiting Senate action on his nomination, they said.

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Tip of the 'Gunwalker' iceberg? Are there MORE 'Operations Fast and Furious'?
St. Louis Gun Rights Examiner ^ | 17 June, 2011 | Kurt Hofmann
Posted on June 18, 2011 10:50:08 AM EDT by marktwain

During Wednesday's House Oversight and Government Reform Committee hearing exploring the tragic, utterly unforgivable tragedies of "Project Gunwalker," it would have been easy to miss one short statement from one of the witnesses. This would be a mistake, because what Special Agent John Dodson of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (BATFE) said in that one sentence could have some pretty dramatic implications. Dodson, readers will remember, was the first brave whistleblower to publicly come forward with the sordid details of "Project Gunwalker."

As a witness at Wednesday's hearing, Dodson was asked by Congressman James Lankford (R-OK) to estimate the number of firearms "lost" in the operation (video also available in the sidebar):

Lankford: Special Agent Dodson, let me ask you a series of questions, and this will be for several agents. Give me your best guess, and it's going to be just a guess on this. How many weapons do we have in the United States or in Mexico, that are out there, that are a result of "Fast and Furious," that we do not know where they are?

Dodson: Well sir, my best guess estimate at that, and remembering that Fast and Furious was one case, from one group, in one field division.

He went on with numbers, of course (2,500 that BATFE facilitated the trafficking of, with from 300 to 800 since recovered), but today let's look at how Special Agent Dodson qualifiied those numbers: "Fast and Furious was one case, from one group, in one field division." The implication is, of course, that there could be other "Operations Fast and Furious," doing their own "gunwalking."

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let's look at how Special Agent Dodson qualifiied those numbers: "Fast and Furious was one case, from one group, in one field division." The implication is, of course, that there could be other "Operations Fast and Furious," doing their own "gunwalking."

I thought it was only CT garbage when people said they believe the govt feeds and fuels the drug war in order to keep its own inflated budget $ rolling in... ;)


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Two AK-47s Used to Murder Mexican Lawyer Were 'Fast and Furious' Guns From U.S., Sources Say

By William La Jeunesse

Published June 17, 2011


EXCLUSIVE: Two guns sold to a Mexican cartel and used in the high-profile kidnapping and murder of a Mexican lawyer last year were purchased under the U.S. Justice Department's failed anti-gun trafficking program Operation Fast and Furious, sources tell Fox News.

U.S. law enforcement sources and officials in Washington told Fox News that two AK-47s were purchased in Arizona by a straw buyer — someone who legally buys guns, then illegal sells them to a third party – and were allowed to “walk” into Mexico. Police recovered the guns in the course of their investigation of the kidnapping of Mario Gonzalez Rodriguez.


According to Fox News sources, Mexico was not told the confiscated guns were part of the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives’ Operation Fast and Furious until the past week.

Until now, the most high-profile crime allegedly committed with these guns was the murder in December of U.S. Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry. Two guns found near his body in Mexico were traced to the ATF program, though it is unclear if they were the guns that killed Terry.

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JUNE 18, 2011
ATF GUNRUNNING SCANDAL UPDATE: “The Wall Street Journal reported last night that the political fallout from Operation Fast and Furious has the White House looking for a fast and furious way out. The acting head of the ATF, Kenneth Melson, will likely lose his job, perhaps as early as next week, the WSJ’s sources say, in what looks like an effort to contain the damage.”

That won’t be enough, for a scandal that some are calling “worse than Iran-Contra.” “The effort to get rid of Melson looks like an attempt to appease the House, but it’s not likely to work. Had the White House provided more cooperation with Darrell Issa on this and other investigations, a Melson resignation might have sufficed. Instead of cooperating, Melson and Attorney General Eric Holder stonewalled the Oversight Committee for weeks, and when they finally turned over the documents subpoenaed by Issa, the heavy redactions prompted Issa to tell the the DoJ’s Assistant Attorney General that he ‘should be ashamed’ of its conduct in an investigation into the death of one of its Border Patrol agents. . . . Issa now will go after the DoJ for its conduct in the investigation, because Holder and Weich have certainly acted as if they have something to hide. And the sudden desire to throw Melson under the bus seems to indicate that the White House would like to end this probe rather quickly, too. At this point, even a resignation by Weich wouldn’t slow Issa’s probe.”

Bonus quote: “Allowing loads of weapons that we knew to be destined for criminals, this was the plan. It was so mandated.” –Special Agent John Dodson ATF Phoenix Field Division. I retain my suspicions about the connection between a secret ATF operation that allowed thousands of weapons to go from U.S. gunshops to Mexican crime scenes, and a public gun-control campaign by the Obama Administration that stressed the need to limit gun sales in the United States because weapons from U.S. gun shops were turning up at Mexican crime scenes. Call me cynical, but this is an awfully convenient juxtaposition.

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Holder's head needs to roll for this. They're doing everything they can to keep this from blowing up. Let's hope the GOP doesn't pussy out.

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Remember Obama trying to politicize this issue by blaming the dealers ad saying our dealers were the cause of the violence? 

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Remember Obama trying to politicize this issue by blaming the dealers ad saying our dealers were the cause of the violence? 

Yes. He's a real piece of shit.

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let's look at how Special Agent Dodson qualifiied those numbers: "Fast and Furious was one case, from one group, in one field division." The implication is, of course, that there could be other "Operations Fast and Furious," doing their own "gunwalking."

I thought it was only CT garbage when people said they believe the govt feeds and fuels the drug war in order to keep its own inflated budget $ rolling in... ;)



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Nice try but wrong. This wasn't fueling the drug war in any way whatsoever. What this was doing was setting up Obama's case for increased gun control, something you said he wouldn't touch (wrong again, twat). Two different concepts.

Swing and a miss, stud.

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Nice try but wrong. This wasn't fueling the drug war in any way whatsoever. What this was doing was setting up Obama's case for increased gun control, something you said he wouldn't touch (wrong again, twat). Two different concepts.

Swing and a miss, stud.


way bigger than obama here, champ.

war on drugs is big business.  if there isn't a fight in 3 weeks, the bouncer starts one in the name of job security.

of course, you are still of the ilk who believes we honestly want to stop drugs coming into usa?  hahahahhaa

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way bigger than obama here, champ.

war on drugs is big business.  if there isn't a fight in 3 weeks, the bouncer starts one in the name of job security.

of course, you are still of the ilk who believes we honestly want to stop drugs coming into usa?  hahahahhaa

Sorry, champ but you are again wrong (this is a recurring theme for a CT whackjob like yourself). This does nothing to help the war on drugs. It's being done to help build Obama's case for increased gun control (which you said he wouldn't touch, HAHAHAHAHAHA).

You are consistently wrong about every claim you make, moonbot. Give it a rest, Obama dicksucker.

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240 - I dont watch TV other than possibly 15 minutes of mornin joe in the am and the end of the yankees games.   I'm not kidding.  I watch no TV whatsoever.   

But its what the idiot public wants.  guesswhat stories get the most comments I post on my facebook?   The mindless crap.   

I post some good stuff on facebook and only the nonsense stuff gets a ton of comments.   I have about 1,000 FB frieds at this point. 

I hear you.   I have been on this story from Day 1! 

Notice how blacken, traw mal, andre, benny, chad, and all the oter dolts for obama have not said a word on this?   

How do I get you on facebook brah?

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This does nothing to help the war on drugs.

Depends how you define "success" in the war on drugs.

if "success" means stopping drug flow, violence, etc - then yes you are right.

If "success" means perpetual border war and guaranteed job security for hundreds of thousands of LEO, border patrol, and ATF agents, then yes, I am right.

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This was about trashing the 2nd amend and blaming the gun stores.