Should we initiate a no-fly zone in Libya?

[Soul Crusher]

how much has oil risen in the last 2 weeks? 

Are you saying the spike in prices, in the last 2 weeks is unrelated to the 2 shut down libyan ports?

 

[Fury]

how much has oil risen in the last 2 weeks? 

Are you saying the spike in prices, in the last 2 weeks is unrelated to the 2 shut down libyan ports?

Has oil been rising for just 2 weeks? Here I was under the assumption that I've been paying over $3.50/gal for much longer than that.

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Has oil been rising for just 2 weeks? Here I was under the assumption that I've been paying over $3.50/gal for much longer than that.

Most people agree that turmoil in countries that produce oil lead to higher prices.

Egypt didn't help.  libya doesn't help. 

if you really want to turn this thread into "are oil prices related to shut down oil ports in natoins of turmoil", you can do that.


But I think we all know that the "bomb libya" movement isn't some whiny leftist bullshit - and I'm betting the majory of voices get on board asap so they're not left out in the cold.

[Soul Crusher]

Oil has been rising for a long time now due to a variety of misguided policies.  

[240 is Back]

Bloomberg and the others believe it's related.  Is newt a leftist now?


Brent Crude for April Rises on Libya Concern; Merrill Lifts Price Forecast

Brent crude snapped a two-day decline on speculation that the conflict in Libya may persist and disrupt oil supplies to Europe.

[Fury]

Most people agree that turmoil in countries that produce oil lead to higher prices.

Egypt didn't help.  libya doesn't help.  

if you really want to turn this thread into "are oil prices related to shut down oil ports in natoins of turmoil", you can do that.


But I think we all know that the "bomb libya" movement isn't some whiny leftist bullshit - and I'm betting the majory of voices get on board asap so they're not left out in the cold.

Gas prices have been rising for only a month now?   

The calls for a No Fly zone were started by Kerry. You ignored that and tried to act like McCain and the Repubs were the ones who started calling for one and then acted like they were the ONLY ones calling for it. You are a spinster douche who was caught out on it.

[Soul Crusher]

Bloomberg and the others believe it's related.  Is newt a leftist now?


Brent Crude for April Rises on Libya Concern; Merrill Lifts Price Forecast

Brent crude snapped a two-day decline on speculation that the conflict in Libya may persist and disrupt oil supplies to Europe.

 

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The calls for a No Fly zone were started by Kerry. You ignored that and tried to act like McCain and the Repubs were the ones who started calling for one and then acted like they were the ONLY ones calling for it. You are a spinster douche who was caught out on it.

I didn't hear about kerry.  he was not mentioned.

Berserker - bottom line - do you feel the movement to bomb libya is a bipartisan effort?  Or do you believe it is a Leftist movement, of which prominent repubs like Mccain, Newt, and T-Paw have all become aspostles? 


Which is it?

[whork25]

Who cares who suggested it first, you guys kneepad way to much, look at the suggestions and go with what you feel instead of sucking the cocks of whatever party you support.

Some of you guys support your party no matter what like a brain-washed islam follower.
You have a free will use it for christ sake

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Rick Santorum believes the US should jump into the mix in Libya now too.

Another conservative stalwart under the hypnotic powers of the LEFTISTS, right?

John Kerry is ballin'.... repubs are lining up to support his leftist agenda.
The same leftist agenda that Gates/Obama are against.

Pretty weird, huh?

[Soul Crusher]

Too late.  We already lost the chance and obamas father will retain power.

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Too late.  We already lost the chance and obamas father will retain power.

Let's face it 33, it's not a "leftist" movement, is it?

Obama is against it.  Gates is against it.



You have a shitload of republicans and military tool John kerry wanting us to bomb libya.  You can't call that a leftist movement when the biggest leftist out there (Obama) is against it, and nearly half of the GOP potentials + the 2008 repub candidate are all supporting it.

[Soul Crusher]

Bama wants gadafi in there.

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Bama wants gadafi in there.

nice subject change.

We need a sheen like #spinning tag to use here on getbig

[Soul Crusher]

Why - obama was adamant about mubarak and doesn't say squat bout mumar,  why is that? 

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Why - obama was adamant about mubarak and doesn't say squat bout mumar,  why is that? 

youre changing the subject.

You said it was LEFTIST to want to drop bombs on their asses.

Why are newt, t-paw, santorum and other repubs all following the leftist agenda now, and why doesn't obama/gates support the leftist agenda?

[Soul Crusher]

Bro - I have no clue why these pols do or don't do certain things. 

[Dos Equis]

No.

[240 is Back]

No.

You are in agreement with Obama and Gates on this issue.

However, Newt, T-Paw, Santorum, Mccain and Kerry all have their proverbial penii at attention for war, war war!

[Soul Crusher]

The Obama Doctrine: Libya Is What A World Without U.S. Leadership Looks Like.
Wall St. J ^ | March 12, 2011


The Obama Doctrine Libya Is What A World Without U.S. Leadership Looks Like.

'This is the Obama conception of the U.S. role in the world—to work through multilateral organizations and bilateral relationships to make sure that the steps we are taking are amplified."

—White House National Security Council spokesman Ben Rhodes, March 10, 2011, as quoted in the Washington Post

"They bombed us with tanks, airplanes, missiles coming from every direction. . . . We need international support, at least a no-fly zone. Why is the world not supporting us?"

—Libyan rebel Mahmoud Abdel Hamid, March 10, 2011, as quoted in The Wall Street Journal

*** Whatever else one might say about President Obama's Libya policy, it has succeeded brilliantly in achieving its oft-stated goal of not leading the world. No one can any longer doubt the U.S. determination not to act before the Italians do, or until the Saudis approve, or without a U.N. resolution. This White House is forthright for followership.

That message also couldn't be clearer to Moammar Gadhafi and his sons, who are busy bombing and killing their way to victory against the Libyan opposition. As the U.S. defers to the world, the world can't decide what to do, and the vacuum is filled by a dictator and his hard men who have concluded that no one will stop them. "Hear it now. I have only two words for our brothers and sisters in the east: We're coming," said Gadhafi's son, Saif al-Islam, on Thursday.

Three weeks into the Libyan uprising, here are some of the live action highlights from what Mr. Obama likes to call "the international community":

• The United Nations Security Council has imposed an arms embargo, but with enough ambiguity that no one knows whether it applies only to Gadhafi or ..


(Excerpt) Read more at online.wsj.com ...


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[Fury]

The Obama Doctrine: Libya Is What A World Without U.S. Leadership Looks Like.
Wall St. J ^ | March 12, 2011


The Obama Doctrine Libya Is What A World Without U.S. Leadership Looks Like.

'This is the Obama conception of the U.S. role in the world—to work through multilateral organizations and bilateral relationships to make sure that the steps we are taking are amplified."

—White House National Security Council spokesman Ben Rhodes, March 10, 2011, as quoted in the Washington Post

"They bombed us with tanks, airplanes, missiles coming from every direction. . . . We need international support, at least a no-fly zone. Why is the world not supporting us?"

—Libyan rebel Mahmoud Abdel Hamid, March 10, 2011, as quoted in The Wall Street Journal

*** Whatever else one might say about President Obama's Libya policy, it has succeeded brilliantly in achieving its oft-stated goal of not leading the world. No one can any longer doubt the U.S. determination not to act before the Italians do, or until the Saudis approve, or without a U.N. resolution. This White House is forthright for followership.

That message also couldn't be clearer to Moammar Gadhafi and his sons, who are busy bombing and killing their way to victory against the Libyan opposition. As the U.S. defers to the world, the world can't decide what to do, and the vacuum is filled by a dictator and his hard men who have concluded that no one will stop them. "Hear it now. I have only two words for our brothers and sisters in the east: We're coming," said Gadhafi's son, Saif al-Islam, on Thursday.

Three weeks into the Libyan uprising, here are some of the live action highlights from what Mr. Obama likes to call "the international community":

• The United Nations Security Council has imposed an arms embargo, but with enough ambiguity that no one knows whether it applies only to Gadhafi or ..


(Excerpt) Read more at online.wsj.com ...


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This is how anyone with a brain said it would play out. These people, especially those in the Middle East, do not respond to kindness. They perceive it as weakness. 2+ years of Obama doing nothing but apologizing, criticizing and chastising the very country he represents and it has done nothing but put us in a worse position.

But, regardless of comes of this no-fly zone nonsense, the far-left has once again exposed themselves for the hypocrites they are. I expect them to never talk about the USA playing world police again when so many of their leaders in both politics and the MSM are calling for the US to militarily intervene in a civil war taking place in a sovereign country that is of no strategic value to us.  

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But, regardless of comes of this no-fly zone nonsense, the far-left has once again exposed themselves for the hypocrites they are. I expect them to never talk about the USA playing world police again when so many of their leaders in both politics and the MSM are calling for the US to militarily intervene in a civil war taking place in a sovereign country that is of no strategic value to us. 

I thought obama/gates were smart here - stay the hell out of it.  The "left" seemed to want to stay out of it, aside from Kerry, who works for big war business more than he does congress, let's be honest.

It was the repubs whose collective penii were at attention for war here.  newt, tPaw, santorum, and mccain.

[Fury]

I thought obama/gates were smart here - stay the hell out of it.  The "left" seemed to want to stay out of it, aside from Kerry, who works for big war business more than he does congress, let's be honest.

It was the repubs whose collective penii were at attention for war here.  newt, tPaw, santorum, and mccain.

The left wanted to stay out of it? Ha! Keep trying to spin that, man. You've had no credibility on this topic since day one when you tried to insinuate that McCain was the one who started the drum beat.

But you keep on trying. Talk about the little engine that couldn't.

[240 is Back]

The left wanted to stay out of it? Ha! Keep trying to spin that, man.

Obama and gates were against it.  head of the dem party, and head of the military.

Just a few warmonger dems and a bunch of "me too" over-eager GOP wannabes, IMO.

[Soul Crusher]

Kc baller wants to jump in.