If Fedor wants to fight at the highest level he 'can't be rolling around fat'

[suckmymuscle]

  Hong Man Choi could give Anderson Silva a concussion by just holding him, taking him to the ground and then doing very basic ground-and-pound. Do you really think there is anything that a 185 lbs fighter can do against a 360 lbs one? It would be one thing if Anderson could submit Choi, but Choi is no 185 lbs Chael Sonnen. Even using leverage, Anderson wouldn't be able to submit him. In the stand-up, Anderson wouldn't have the power to do anything to Choi. It would be like a 6 year-old girl hitting a grown man. Granted, Choi wouldn't have the speed and agility to lend any punches on Silva, but he would just clinch with him, take him to the ground and lay on top of him with his 360 lbs untiil Anderson is almost dead from hypoxia. If he wanted to finish the fight sooner, a basic ground and pound with his huge fists and strength would end having Silva brain-damaged for life if the judge didn't stop the fight soon. That is 185 lbs vs 360 lbs, bra. That is the same difference in strength and power as that between a grown man and a little girl. Lmao...

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[BILL ANVIL]

  Hong Man Choi could give Anderson Silva a concussion by just holding him, taking him to the ground and then doing very basic ground-and-pound. Do you really think there is anything that a 185 lbs fighter can do against a 360 lbs one? It would be one thing if Anderson could submit Choi, but Choi is no 185 lbs Chael Sonnen. Even using leverage, Anderson wouldn't be able to submit him. In the stand-up, Anderson wouldn't have the power to do anything to Choi. It would be like a 6 year-old girl hitting a grown man. Granted, Choi wouldn't have the speed and agility to lend any punches on Silva, but he would just clinch with him, take him to the ground and lay on top of him with his 360 lbs untiil Anderson is almost dead from hypoxia. If he wanted to finish the fight sooner, a basic ground and pound with his huge fists and strength would end having Silva brain-damaged for life if the judge didn't stop the fight soon. That is 185 lbs vs 360 lbs, bra. That is the same difference in strength and power as that between a grown man and a little girl. Lmao...

SUCKMYMUSCLE

Good post. Funny how all of Mindspins gimmicks don't seem to think size makes any difference at all lol. The UFC's unstoppable Anderson Silva wouldn't look so unstoppable against CroCop, Semmy Schilt, Arlovski, Hunt, Silvia or even Heath Herring. Size makes such a huge difference, look what happened when Fedor fought Lindland. It took little effort for Fedor to tie him into a pretzel and submit him once in hit the ground lol.

[suckmymuscle]

Good post. Funny how all of Mindspins gimmicks don't seem to think size makes any difference at all lol. The UFC's unstoppable Anderson Silva wouldn't look so unstoppable against CroCop, Semmy Schilt, Arlovski, Hunt, Silvia or even Heath Herring. Size makes such a huge difference, look what happened when Fedor fought Lindland. It took little effort for Fedor to tie him into a pretzel and submit him once in hit the ground lol.

  I agree with you 100% except for one thing: in the Lindland fight, Fedor only has 2 lbs on him - Lindland is a middleweight but in this fight he was only 2 lbs lighter than Fedor! Fedor won that easily because he is just that good.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[WeightPSHR]

  Hong Man Choi could give Anderson Silva a concussion by just holding him, taking him to the ground and then doing very basic ground-and-pound. Do you really think there is anything that a 185 lbs fighter can do against a 360 lbs one? It would be one thing if Anderson could submit Choi, but Choi is no 185 lbs Chael Sonnen. Even using leverage, Anderson wouldn't be able to submit him. In the stand-up, Anderson wouldn't have the power to do anything to Choi. It would be like a 6 year-old girl hitting a grown man. Granted, Choi wouldn't have the speed and agility to lend any punches on Silva, but he would just clinch with him, take him to the ground and lay on top of him with his 360 lbs untiil Anderson is almost dead from hypoxia. If he wanted to finish the fight sooner, a basic ground and pound with his huge fists and strength would end having Silva brain-damaged for life if the judge didn't stop the fight soon. That is 185 lbs vs 360 lbs, bra. That is the same difference in strength and power as that between a grown man and a little girl. Lmao...

SUCKMYMUSCLE

Good post. Funny how all of Mindspins gimmicks don't seem to think size makes any difference at all lol. The UFC's unstoppable Anderson Silva wouldn't look so unstoppable against CroCop, Semmy Schilt, Arlovski, Hunt, Silvia or even Heath Herring. Size makes such a huge difference, look what happened when Fedor fought Lindland. It took little effort for Fedor to tie him into a pretzel and submit him once in hit the ground lol.

If you think Anderson Silva, who weighs more than 185 walking around, would take a beating from HMC, then explain to me why a 185-190lb can, Hiroshi Izumi beat HMC with striking/punches.  Let me guess, Izumi is better than Silva? What do you chumps have to say about yourselves now?

Size makes all the difference huh?

[BILL ANVIL]

Anderson Silva won't fight anyone his own height let alone someone 7' tall. And he's not one of those fighters that have practice at fighting larger opponents, like Fedor does. Minowa even has more experience fighting larger opponents than Silva. You act as though HMC would be an easy fight for him at that!! bahahahaha!

[MindSpin]

I can't keep track of all the turds posting here, but did I read this right? Someone said that Anderson could not beat Hong Man Choi!?!?!?!  Talk about being absolutely clueless.

And, yes. Weight does make a difference, when both fighters are skilled. The only reason Fedor beat so many guys that were bigger than him, is because they were a bunch of unskilled cans. Once they put Fedor in there with a bigger guy with skills, HE LOST. LOL.

[suckmymuscle]

I can't keep track of all the turds posting here, but did I read this right? Someone said that Anderson could not beat Hong Man Choi!?!?!?!  Talk about being absolutely clueless.

And, yes. Weight does make a difference, when both fighters are skilled. The only reason Fedor beat so many guys that were bigger than him, is because they were a bunch of unskilled cans. Once they put Fedor in there with a bigger guy with skills, HE LOST. LOL.

  Talk about an euphemistic statement. Silva was 65 lbs heavier than Fedor. 65 fucking pounds! That is the difference in weight between GSP and Cain Velasquez. The only way for you to beat a fighter that carries 65 lbs in lean body mass than you if for him to be vastly inferior to you as a fighter. Fedor is a lot better than Silva, but not enough to overcome the 65 lbs weight difference, I will give you that. If they were the same size of even if Silva were 30 lbs heavier, Fedor would have smoked him. How do you think your hero, GSP, would do in a fight against an opponent 65 lbs heavier who isn't completely unskilled? Go ask him if he would like to fight Cain for the heavyweight belt at his 170 lbs bodyweight. Let me ask you a question: Do you think Silva would have won the fight if he were Fedor's size of even 30 lbs heavier? Silva barely won the fight at 290 lbs, so at around 250 lbs he would have been destroyed.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[MindSpin]

  Talk about an euphemistic statement. Silva was 65 lbs heavier than Fedor. 65 fucking pounds! That is the difference in weight between GSP and Cain Velasquez. The only way for you to beat a fighter that carries 65 lbs in lean body mass than you if for him to be vastly inferior to you as a fighter. Fedor is a lot better than Silva, but not enough to overcome the 65 lbs weight difference, I will give you that. If they were the same size of even if Silva were 30 lbs heavier, Fedor would have smoked him. How do you think your hero, GSP, would do in a fight against an opponent 65 lbs heavier who isn't completely unskilled? Go ask him if he would like to fight Cain for the heavyweight belt at his 170 lbs bodyweight. Let me ask you a question: Do you think Silva would have won the fight if he were Fedor's size of even 30 lbs heavier? Silva barely won the fight at 290 lbs, so at around 250 lbs he would have been destroyed.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

Serious question: how old are you?

BTW, you are right.  65lbs is a lot to overcome.  Which is why I've been saying from day one: Fedor is not the greatest heavyweight.  I said it before he lost to Werdum and Big Foot. 

Back then I said that if he got in there with the UFC big boys like Carwin & Lesnar, he would be dominated.  All of the Fedor ball lickers laughed and said Fedor could walk through them all.  Of course, after he lost, they had nothing but excuses

Size matters when both opponents are skilled.  But, size can be negated when one is significantly more skilled than the other.  Look at Cain vs Lesnar.  I bet Cain would demolish Big Foot, even though he is waaay smaller.

The bottom line is, Fedor was exposed for being an overrated can crusher.  And now, he's running to a lower weight class (see my other thread).

[BILL ANVIL]

Serious question: how old are you?

BTW, you are right.  65lbs is a lot to overcome.  Which is why I've been saying from day one: Fedor is not the greatest heavyweight.  I said it before he lost to Werdum and Big Foot.  

Back then I said that if he got in there with the UFC big boys like Carwin & Lesnar, he would be dominated.  All of the Fedor ball lickers laughed and said Fedor could walk through them all.  Of course, after he lost, they had nothing but excuses

Size matters when both opponents are skilled.  But, size can be negated when one is significantly more skilled than the other.  Look at Cain vs Lesnar.  I bet Cain would demolish Big Foot, even though he is waaay smaller.

The bottom line is, Fedor was exposed for being an overrated can crusher.  And now, he's running to a lower weight class (see my other thread).

How long would GSP last against Cain Velasquez? And would GSP even have the balls to fight someone that much bigger than him? You can answer those questions with a yes or no please.. 

And who were all these great fighters Fedor was avoiding back in his heyday 2002-08?? He was fighting some pretty dangerous fighters in that time period and I dont know who else there was to fight..

[BILL ANVIL]

And LOL at Shane Carwin "demolishing" Fedor. I think Cain admitted himself a couple years ago he wasn't ready for that fight too. And Lesnar? Even now an old worn out Fedor would smash Brock square in the nose with a looping heymaker and drop him on his ass. Lesnar doesnt like getting hit, Fedor is a very bad fight for him.

[suckmymuscle]

Serious question: how old are you?

  Why are you asking this? What is the relevance of this? Let me take a guess: you are asking this in a "serious" tone to make it seem like you think I am childish, when in reality there is nothing childish in anything I said, but you just want to call me childish to insult me.

Size matters when both opponents are skilled.  But, size can be negated when one is significantly more skilled than the other.  Look at Cain vs Lesnar.  I bet Cain would demolish Big Foot, even though he is waaay smaller.

  Are you serious with this garbage? Cain was 245 lbs for his fight with Lesnar and Lesnar was 265 lbs - he was 290 lbs for his fight with Mir but lost a lot of weight after his diverticulitis. That is a 20 lbs difference which is far from 65 lbs. Secondly, Brock is a one-dimensional wrestler with no stand-up who can't take a punch. He basically crawled into the foetal position after Cain started hitting him in the second round. Fedor would have KOd him much sooner. Big Foot Silva has a giant head and the hardest chin in MMA. He ate Fedor's punches and kept on coming. Brett Rogers has a reputation for a tough chin and a single overhand made him go sleep. The power of Fedor's punches is legandary. Even Dana White said:"If you look at Fedor, he has a lot of power, he can knock you out, but I wouldn't say he has a great stand-up."

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[MindSpin]

And LOL at Shane Carwin "demolishing" Fedor. I think Cain admitted himself a couple years ago he wasn't ready for that fight too. And Lesnar? Even now an old worn out Fedor would smash Brock square in the nose with a looping heymaker and drop him on his ass. Lesnar doesnt like getting hit, Fedor is a very bad fight for him.

So then you completely disagree with Suckmymuscle, who says that the only reason Fedor lost to Big Foot was due to the size disadvantage. 

[MindSpin]

  Why are you asking this? What is the relevance of this? Let me take a guess: you are asking this in a "serious" tone to make it seem like you think I am childish, when in reality there is nothing childish in anything I said, but you just want to call me childish to insult me.

  Are you serious with this garbage? Cain was 245 lbs for his fight with Lesnar and Lesnar was 265 lbs - he was 290 lbs for his fight with Mir but lost a lot of weight after his diverticulitis. That is a 20 lbs difference which is far from 65 lbs. Secondly, Brock is a one-dimensional wrestler with no stand-up who can't take a punch. He basically crawled into the foetal position after Cain started hitting him in the second round. Fedor would have KOd him much sooner. Big Foot Silva has a giant head and the hardest chin in MMA. He ate Fedor's punches and kept on coming. Brett Rogers has a reputation for a tough chin and a single overhand made him go sleep. The power of Fedor's punches is legandary. Even Dana White said:"If you look at Fedor, he has a lot of power, he can knock you out, but I wouldn't say he has a great stand-up."

SUCKMYMUSCLE

You sounds like you're about 16-17.  Am I right?

[BILL ANVIL]

So then you completely disagree with Suckmymuscle, who says that the only reason Fedor lost to Big Foot was due to the size disadvantage. 

Fedor lost to BigFoot due to a few reasons. Size, skill and Fedors age. Carwin isn't all that skilled IMO and doesnt possess enough hand speed or fighting intelligence to beat Fedor. Lesnar is even less skilled than Carwin, bigger and slower.

[MindSpin]

Fedor lost to BigFoot due to a few reasons. Size, skill and Fedors age. Carwin isn't all that skilled IMO and doesnt possess enough hand speed or fighting intelligence to beat Fedor. Lesnar is even less skilled than Carwin, bigger and slower.

Oh brother   Carwin has finished everyone of his fights in 1st round KOs, with the exception of Lesnar.  And he has shown he can take a punch and still come back.  Lesnar is a D1 wrestling phenom and you say he has no skills

[suckmymuscle]

You sounds like you're about 16-17.  Am I right?

  Ugh...no. And there is nothing in my post that would suggest that. For instance, I assumed at first you were retarded given your posts on Fedor, but since you are able to use a computer and access the internet, that told me otherwise. You should draw the same conclusions regarding your completely nonsensical assertion that I must be 16 to 17. By the way, moron, I have been posting here since 2004, so according to you I was 9 to 10 years old when I started posting here. Nice thinking!

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[MindSpin]

  Ugh...no. And there is nothing in my post that would suggest that. For instance, I assumed at first you were retarded given your posts on Fedor, but since you are able to use a computer and access the internet, that told me otherwise. You should draw the same conclusions regarding your completely nonsensical assertion that I must be 16 to 17. By the way, moron, I have been posting here since 2004, so according to you I was 9 to 10 years old when I started posting here. Nice thinking!

SUCKMYMUSCLE

You've been here since 2004?  I never heard of you

[suckmymuscle]

You've been here since 2004?  I never heard of you

  And you are the guy who criticizes others for being childish? The irony.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[MindSpin]

  And you are the guy who criticizes others for being childish? The irony.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

no.  seriously.  did you have a different name?

[BILL ANVIL]

Oh brother   Carwin has finished everyone of his fights in 1st round KOs, with the exception of Lesnar.  And he has shown he can take a punch and still come back.  Lesnar is a D1 wrestling phenom and you say he has no skills

Those D1 skills only work for him when he's not getting punched in the face, which has been discovered previously.

[suckmymuscle]

no.  seriously.  did you have a different name?

  CockSpin, you are the most stupid and childish person to post in this board by far with the possible exception Of David Mirza and Johny Falcon. The fact that you created several gimmick accounts to agree with you on your retarded posts just goes to show how immature and insecure you truly are.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[BILL ANVIL]

  CockSpin, you are the most stupid and childish person to post in this board by far with the possible exception Of David Mirza and Johny Falcon. The fact that you created several gimmick accounts to agree with you on your retarded posts just goes to show how immature and insecure you truly are.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

Don't piss him off he might ban you lol

[MindSpin]

  CockSpin, you are the most stupid and childish person to post in this board by far with the possible exception Of David Mirza and Johny Falcon. The fact that you created several gimmick accounts to agree with you on your retarded posts just goes to show how immature and insecure you truly are.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

Lol. Either you got your feelings hurt or you're on your period. Either way, meltdown. Lol.

[suckmymuscle]

Lol. Either you got your feelings hurt or you're on your period. Either way, meltdown. Lol.

  You are so stupid and childish. Like an adult toddler. The fact that you are middle aged and created several gimmicks to bash Fedor and PRIDE tells everything we need to know about you.

  Let me ask you a question: Why are you a moderator at the MMA board? You know nothing about the topic. Second question: Do you think you are doing a good job as a mod? Here is a hint for ya: besides you gimmick, no one else does.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[MindSpin]

Lol. You resort to name calling and meltdown all over the board. You're taking it way to serious. Please let me know who my gimmicks are?  I have none. Also, no MMA knowledge is required to be a mod here. I'm a mod because I am fair, never delete threads unless they contain child porn or people's private info. I could delete all your threads or modify them, but I don't. Most people who get mod powers end up abusing them. I never have.

I know your feelings are hurt because I have no idea who you are. Just get over it bro.