GH15 question (best cycle in preventing hair loss)?

[no one]

thanks guys...
will grant, i just did a cycle of test E 500 x 10 weeks, so i am not scared. just noticed a little thinning... just dont want to rush it too much (i know all about genetics).


thinking of test prop 100eod x 8 weeks, plus 50mg anavar for 8 weeks.

question, is it worth adding oral finasteride?

also, is it worth adding an 8 week course of GH?  what would be the opitmal dosing regimen (less sides but decent gains)?

WTF YOU DUMB FUCK.

HAVE YOU EVEN READ ANY OF THESE POSTS?

i get it. your stupid. i apologise.

[DK II]

thanks guys...
will grant, i just did a cycle of test E 500 x 10 weeks, so i am not scared. just noticed a little thinning... just dont want to rush it too much (i know all about genetics).


thinking of test prop 100eod x 8 weeks, plus 50mg anavar for 8 weeks.

question, is it worth adding oral finasteride?

also, is it worth adding an 8 week course of GH?  what would be the opitmal dosing regimen (less sides but decent gains)?

Why the short cycles?

[theworm]

calm down there sally.

the situation is this:  light shedding off test E 500,,,   so prop at a lower dose (300 a week) would i even need oral finasteride?  i am using the topical version now along with minoxidil...

[theworm]

Why the short cycles?

gain mass, minimize side effects...

gain 10-15 pounds, then train hard to keep the gains for almost 6-9 months.

[DK II]

gain mass, minimize side effects...

gain 10-15 pounds, then train hard to keep the gains for almost 6-9 months.

 

ahh ok.

ever thought about that the hormone rollercoaster may actually give you more sides than staying on for longer periods, especially when you dose rather low, like you do?

[theworm]

 

ahh ok.

ever thought about that the hormone rollercoaster may actually give you more sides than staying on for longer periods, especially when you dose rather low, like you do?

no. i do not agree.  i think the longer you are on, the longer you will be shut down, harder to keep gains in the long term...

[DK II]

no. i do not agree.  i think the longer you are on, the longer you will be shut down, harder to keep gains in the long term...

LOL, you are already shut down after 10 weeks anyways, makes no difference if you stay on for another 6 weeks, but you will have more gains.

[theworm]

LOL, you are already shut down after 10 weeks anyways, makes no difference if you stay on for another 6 weeks, but you will have more gains.

shut down is shut down...  but if on for 8 weeks, shutdown may just be 2 months or so.

staying on a year, shutdown maybe 6-8 months.   


i think the longer your on, the LONGER the shutdown.

[Max B]

if you dont use tren, many say it is very easy to recover from a 8 week test prop cycle with mast for example or whatever u want except for tren and nandrolone.  according to BLP recovery from PROP is Very easy esp. if HCG used on cycle. i plan on keeping all my cycles at 8 weeks until i get my hands on a 1000 iu's and get a little older    lol

[notsureifsrs]

thanks guys...
will grant, i just did a cycle of test E 500 x 10 weeks, so i am not scared. just noticed a little thinning... just dont want to rush it too much (i know all about genetics).


thinking of test prop 100eod x 8 weeks, plus 50mg anavar for 8 weeks.

question, is it worth adding oral finasteride?

also, is it worth adding an 8 week course of GH?  what would be the opitmal dosing regimen (less sides but decent gains)?

What's your goals? keep your hair? or getbig?
your whole situation is big WTF i mean every time you pin something you take a risk of losing your hair or getting bitch tits or w/e...

just man-up and do what you gotta do or don't do it all
300mg or 750mg it doesn't really matter.

you can try to avoid balding with meds for your hair ( the expensive ones), with keeping your BP low, quality food and keep yourself away from any kind of stress, the rest wont matter.

[Arnold jr]

no. i do not agree.  i think the longer you are on, the longer you will be shut down, harder to keep gains in the long term...

The harshness of the cycle, both total dosage and duration will have an effect on how easily you regain your natural testosterone production, that much is true, however, it's not as cut and dry as you might think. A moderately low dosed cycle of Testosterone for a mere 8wks will shut you down harder than you might think. A lot of people are under the assumption that they can run a mild cycle, go through PCT and then their testosterone levels are back to normal, this simply isn't true. From one mild cycle even with a good PCT it will in most cases take nearly an entire year for your LH and Testosterone production to return to normal.

Keeping gains, your body does not want to change and in order for true change to take hold you have to create a new normal. For a new normal to be obtained your body has to become accustomed to a change for an extended period of time, otherwise it will return to its old normal state. This is why so many guys see their cycle gains vanish so easily; they run a short cycle and never allow their bodies to become accustomed to the change.

[HTexan]

preventing hair loss? the best cycle is no cycle.

[Max B]

The harshness of the cycle, both total dosage and duration will have an effect on how easily you regain your natural testosterone production, that much is true, however, it's not as cut and dry as you might think. A moderately low dosed cycle of Testosterone for a mere 8wks will shut you down harder than you might think. A lot of people are under the assumption that they can run a mild cycle, go through PCT and then their testosterone levels are back to normal, this simply isn't true. From one mild cycle even with a good PCT it will in most cases take nearly an entire year for your LH and Testosterone production to return to normal.

Keeping gains, your body does not want to change and in order for true change to take hold you have to create a new normal. For a new normal to be obtained your body has to become accustomed to a change for an extended period of time, otherwise it will return to its old normal state. This is why so many guys see their cycle gains vanish so easily; they run a short cycle and never allow their bodies to become accustomed to the change.

yeah, but what if you have made a decent natural foundation yourself? and have gained alot of strength and size naturally prior. a guy doing an 8 week cycle after hes been lifting for 4 years naturally is not the same as a guy who lifts for 2 months than does an 8 week cycle.

[Firemuscle]

What's your goals? keep your hair? or getbig?
your whole situation is big WTF i mean every time you pin something you take a risk of losing your hair or getting bitch tits or w/e...

just man-up and do what you gotta do or don't do it all
300mg or 750mg it doesn't really matter.

you can try to avoid balding with meds for your hair ( the expensive ones), with keeping your BP low, quality food and keep yourself away from any kind of stress, the rest wont matter.

 This is why I havn't got on gear yet.

 I figure if I do it, I should do it all the way.

 But i'm not ready to go in like that yet. I look too damn good right now.

 When I start getting older, start naturally going bald, and my body starts to look like shit, then i'll gear up. Right now the Mona Lisa is looking pretty good though and it doesn't need anything more.

[Arnold jr]

yeah, but what if you have made a decent natural foundation yourself? and have gained alot of strength and size naturally prior. a guy doing an 8 week cycle after hes been lifting for 4 years naturally is not the same as a guy who lifts for 2 months than does an 8 week cycle.

The same principles apply regardless. The guy who built some muscle naturally first and has maintained it this is now his normal, his set point. When he decided to go past that set point, his normal, regardless of how he got to this new normal, to go beyond, chemically or not he has to hold it for an extended period of time or it doesn't become his new normal.

[Omega]

WTF YOU DUMB FUCK.

HAVE YOU EVEN READ ANY OF THESE POSTS?

i get it. your stupid. i apologise.

x2

[theworm]

excellent responses guys.


what about adding 8 weeks of GH?  worth it?   best dosing?

[Max B]

The same principles apply regardless. The guy who built some muscle naturally first and has maintained it this is now his normal, his set point. When he decided to go past that set point, his normal, regardless of how he got to this new normal, to go beyond, chemically or not he has to hold it for an extended period of time or it doesn't become his new normal.

okay i understand your theory but this is all just personal experience i suppose?  going by your theory, How long would you be on to achieve this new normal set point so that when you're not on you will still maintain most of it?  Im under the impression that you whether its months weeks or years that your on you will still go back to your normal foundation and even may get smaller if you do not eat enough... basically its also a known fact although many will disagree that even a one time steroid user has advantage over a natural in terms of muscle cells, and maturity even if they have been clean for years. 

[Euro-monster]

excellent responses guys.


what about adding 8 weeks of GH?  worth it?   best dosing?

Goddamned moron....stop asking stupid questions here and go to the steriodboard and use the searchbutton...goddamn sumafabitch...

[Schmoe Buster]

Goddamned moron....stop asking stupid questions here and go to the steriodboard and use the searchbutton...goddamn sumafabitch...

X2, its fags likes him that do a sissy 8 week cycle of low doses and then shut themselves down spend all their money on PCT crap then say steroids dont work because they dont look like Jay or Dex after 8 weeks

Clomid and Nolvo and all that other crap is not good for you, what is the point of doing a 10 week cycle then taking all the PCT crap to then go back on another 10 week cycle way to mess your body up

[theworm]

Goddamned moron....stop asking stupid questions here and go to the steriodboard and use the searchbutton...goddamn sumafabitch...

internet tough guy alert!  watch out!

[Euro-monster]

internet tough guy alert!  watch out!

I hope you go bald soon bitch....

[Schmoe Buster]

internet tough guy alert!  watch out!

sissy ass bitch

[theworm]

sissy ass bitch

now your being sassy!   lol.

[Arnold jr]

okay i understand your theory but this is all just personal experience i suppose?  going by your theory, How long would you be on to achieve this new normal set point so that when you're not on you will still maintain most of it?  Im under the impression that you whether its months weeks or years that your on you will still go back to your normal foundation and even may get smaller if you do not eat enough... basically its also a known fact although many will disagree that even a one time steroid user has advantage over a natural in terms of muscle cells, and maturity even if they have been clean for years. 

It's largely individualistic as no human being is the same but for all individuals the desired new set point will have to be held by whatever means necessary fare longer than not if it is to ever take hold. And of course you have to continue to eat well and train, otherwise your new normal will go in the opposite direction...it works both ways.