For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol

[WillGrant]

lmao, more bitchy than on Tren

haha
high doses of test make me tired usually, never did much deca exept 1 or 2 cc here and there

the old folks at my gym swear by deca

Im ok on tren unless I have alot of stress going on in my life then I just have to get off it full stop or I go on an emotional roller coaster ride 

Nandralone just leaves me feeling blah - like theres a dark cloud hanging over me and I feel like a hormonal woman  though I tryed running it again over the last 8 weeks but with something I saw No One say about adding 5-htp to tren and it works - it sort of null's that dark feeling - you really dont feel anything just neutral so that helped me this time but I had to stop it as it reeally does kill my energy levels - my ass drags and in the gym between sets I just feel like shit - I have always had this on deca , just my body chemistry i guess.

On your pics mate - I think you look fantastic as you are - you have come along way over the last couple of years.
Im not sure what your back and legs look like but really I dont think you have to add huge amounts of extra size - just be carefull you dont ruin your lines and put on to much mass for your frame - at present you are holding it well and 5-10 lean pounds in the right places you will look unbeatable - you have tiny joints, small waist and hips and good bellies so will always cast an illusion of weighing 20 odd pounds more than you are - you at 220-230pds on stage will look unreal bro..well done 

[Jack T. Cross]

My post had little to do with "hardgainers" in the first place, it was aimed at non-responders to AAS. You know, the guys who have to run high doses and gain very little, even with good diet and training.

Translation: They're getting bunk shit.

[Benoitlapierre]

Translation: They're getting bunk shit.

bunk shit doesnt exist in canada ,,

[Jack T. Cross]

bunk shit doesnt exist in canada ,,

 

Remind me to move to Canada immediately.

[The.Giant]

bunk shit doesnt exist in canada ,,

Makes sense. In Canada there were huge bodybuilders everywhere. Here in Australia everyone's tiny by comparison.

[Stavios]

Why wouldn't you shoot Humalog after you train when you are more depleted and can pound more carbs/protein.

Humalog still spike for a few hours so it's still effective post workout even if I shoot it before 

[Stavios]

On your pics mate - I think you look fantastic as you are - you have come along way over the last couple of years.
Im not sure what your back and legs look like but really I dont think you have to add huge amounts of extra size - just be carefull you dont ruin your lines and put on to much mass for your frame - at present you are holding it well and 5-10 lean pounds in the right places you will look unbeatable - you have tiny joints, small waist and hips and good bellies so will always cast an illusion of weighing 20 odd pounds more than you are - you at 220-230pds on stage will look unreal bro..well done 

thanks man ! 

[Stavios]

pls get humulin N too !!!! only 35$

they only want to sell me humalog at the drug store haha, I don't know why !
but my buddy is diabetic he will get me a bottle of humulin !

[pellius]

they only want to sell me humalog at the drug store haha, I don't know why !
but my buddy is diabetic he will get me a bottle of humulin !

In the States you need a script for Humalog. Humulin is OTC.

[TheGift...]

I shot 15iu of Humalog before training, feel awesome

already getting swole, I drank a lot of water with it too to attain maximum fullness

usually in 3-4 days I should have gained 10 lbs already of glycogen and water retention

What are your macros in the diet - pro carb fat?

[claymore]

Why wouldn't you shoot Humalog after you train when you are more depleted and can pound more carbs/protein.

Trust me pre workout is the way to go.

[dustin]

this is good thred aside from suckmuscle episodes of insanity lol ,,lots of information here,,good thred

gh15 approved

I'm grateful to have all you crazy fucks here too. I'm no sticky stud like Stav but I'm definitely getting jacked as shit from all the real world advices.

Fuck suckmymuscle too. Bitter old fuck. Probably looks and feels like shit. He should read the gh15 bible.

[Schmoe Buster]

I'm grateful to have all you crazy fucks here too. I'm no sticky stud like Stav but I'm definitely getting jacked as shit from all the real world advices.

Fuck suckmymuscle too. Bitter old fuck. Probably looks and feels like shit. He should read the gh15 bible.

Yeah fuck sucksboyscocks, if he doesnt like this why does he just not read and post in it that queer has really nothing going on in his gay life

since last year i have followed the gh15 bible and i have made more improvements in that time than in all the years before then, those that dont like gh15 shut the fuck up or why dont you try his protocols because it works, most likely these haters are too pussy and are not true bodybuilders

15iu per day gh15 approved HGH

Trenbolona Ace,Masterona,Equipona,testosterona (cycled) add in some anapolona and dianbolona now and then, all you can eat gh buffet, good training, 6 months you are champ of your gym and contender for local title bodybuilding.

stay away from slin

[Benoitlapierre]

In the States you need a script for Humalog. Humulin is OTC.

just buy from a canadian website , they will ship to you no question ask , it legal

[Benoitlapierre]

Trust me pre workout is the way to go.

true n not, ever try 2 gr testo with humalog trust me ,,, you sleep a hour , on a bigger cycle it made me sleepy

[Benoitlapierre]

Dead by 73.

by 55 ,,, but who' care ,, who' want to live at 73 ?,, ewwwww , weak n frail , time to leave earth

[Stavios]

Yeah fuck sucksboyscocks, if he doesnt like this why does he just not read and post in it that queer has really nothing going on in his gay life

since last year i have followed the gh15 bible and i have made more improvements in that time than in all the years before then, those that dont like gh15 shut the fuck up or why dont you try his protocols because it works, most likely these haters are too pussy and are not true bodybuilders

15iu per day gh15 approved HGH

Trenbolona Ace,Masterona,Equipona,testosterona (cycled) add in some anapolona and dianbolona now and then, all you can eat gh buffet, good training, 6 months you are champ of your gym and contender for local title bodybuilding.

stay away from slin

GH15's advices are great but sometimes you gotta go with what you have in your pocket !

so for now I do what I can afford

[Schmoe Buster]

GH15's advices are great but sometimes you gotta go with what you have in your pocket !

so for now I do what I can afford

Well you are doing very well with what you can afford, if you are going off season now then get yourself cheaper stuff like Test and Deca, Dbol, take as much of it as you can handle, GH 5-6IU per day, if you can only afford 2IU still good enough, i know you like Slin so thats nice and cheap and can help you add the 20lbs you want, eat big train big then 6 months out from your next contest Tren A,Mast,EQ,Prop and more GH, save money now for that or buy vial or two when you got some spare $$$ and save them until next contest prep

[Natural Man]

WTF !

I don't "hate" the world ??

I just like to do whatever the fuck I want that makes me happy

to each his own

actually you re doing what you re father wish he had done. You re programmed to follow a path and it's automatic. No free will here.

but thanks for clearing it up for us. You re following your dad steps and you ll end an even shittier way and maybe even sooner. no need to tell us  what you think about women either, i guess it s simply what you fahter told you... Any insights on why your parents divorced? lemme guess ... he cheated on her?


And the icing on the cake... you dont want kids, it's a waste of time right?   Just what your father always thought of...spwaning you . And you got the message 5/5.


The whole behavior is borderline suicidal, a need to play with your own life, and...with death, due to not being loved by your father. What reasonable father advises his kid to inject steroids and focus on bodybuilding seriously? Even arnold S. will never advise his sons to follow that path.

BTW how are studies going?

[Stavios]

actually you re doing what you re father wish he had done. You re programmed to follow a path and it's automatic. No free will here.

but thanks for clearing it up for us. You re following your dad steps and you ll end an even shittier way and maybe even sooner. no need to tell us  what you think about women either, i guess it s simply what you fahter told you... Any insights on why your parents divorced? lemme guess ... he cheated on her?


And the icing on the cake... you dont want kids, it's a waste of time right?   Just what your father always thought of...spwaning you . And you got the message 5/5.


The whole behavior is borderline suicidal, a need to play with your own life, and...with death, due to not being loved by your father. What reasonable father advises his kid to inject steroids and focus on bodybuilding seriously? Even arnold S. will never advise his sons to follow that path.

BTW how are studies going?

No my dad didn't cheat on my mom, actually he is still in love with her even after all those years and even if my mother moved on.
pretty sad actually, I feel bad for him.
it was my mom that wanted to divorced, but I don't blame her since my dad is kinda hard to "live" with.
Very very negative person, it drains a lot of energy having a discussion with him

haha I know people hate when you analyse them but that's fucking impressive IMO, pretty right I think with some of your comments.

a girl friend of mine is a psychologist and she does that to me all the time, she seems to know my past even if I don't tell her, that's fucked up !

Studies are going bad, well I took a break for the winter session as motivation was gone. seems after 3 sessions I didn't learn shit and it was pissing me off, I had good scores tho !

I might go back this fall, still thinking about it.

[Natural Man]

it's called maniaco depressive disorder/behavior and it's genetical, it's a mental disorder/disease which can be reinforced by environment and bad behaviors from the care givers during childhood and adolescence. my advice; listen to your mother instead of your father. He wants everyone to die but himself, and he's ready to see you die before himself.

Read about it.  

[Stavios]

it's called maniaco depressive disorder/behavior and it's genetical, can be reinforced by environment and bad behaviors from the care givers. my advice; listen to your mother instead of your father.

Read about it.

are you saying i have that or my father has ?

I tought I was like this, but then after reading about did and having a class about mental problems at school, seems to me it didn't correspond with myself.

I have the depressive phase quite often but never "maniac" phase ( the high phase )

[Natural Man]

are you saying i have that or my father has ?

I tought I was like this, but then after reading about did and having a class about mental problems at school, seems to me it didn't correspond with myself.

I have the depressive phase quite often but never "maniac" phase ( the high phase )

Both of you might have it. It's genetical. It is reinforced by weather, it's called cyclotymie or something like this. There are majors crises during adolescence, one nearing the 30s and one in the 40s if you make it trhu the first ones. Life span of people diagnosed with it is often 10 years shorter than other people.

There is clearely something wrong, it's a destructive behavior, and there is no doubt in my mind benoit lapierre has exactly the same issue.

You should date your gf who s a psy and listen to your mother. And consider anti depressants and a psychotherapy to get rid of the influences of your father.

It's ok to lift weight, to take steroids isnt. It's an extremistic and suicidal behavior which is underlied by deep, enkysted traumas from childhood burried deep in your subconscious and major and repeated neglecting acts from your father toward you. People with such a father often have troubles being successful in studies or work and are awkyard in social situations, they didnt learn how to interact correctly with others learning mostly from their father figure how to interact. They often have a very low self esteem and think they cant achieve anything. They feel like they have to follow their father steps for some reasons, that they have to be faithful to him even if his influence is killing them.

[JimmyJam1974]

Both of you might have it. It's genetical. It is reinforced by weather, it's called cyclotymie or something like this. There are majors crises during adolescence, one nearing the 30s and one in the 40s if you make it trhu the first ones. Life span of people diagnosed with it is often 10 years shorter than other people.

There is clearely something wrong, it's a destructive behavior, and there is no doubt in my mind benoit lapierre has exactly the same issue.

You should date your gf who s a psy and listen to your mother. And consider anti depressants and a psychotherapy to get rid of the influences of your father.

It's ok to lift weight, to take steroids isnt. It's an extremistic and suicidal behavior which is underlied by deep, enkysted traumas from childhood burried deep in your subconscious and major and repeated neglecting acts from your father toward you.

Stavios, How much you paying for these psych sessions?

[kyomu]

Hey, Stav.
Congrats to your great achivement.
But,be careful......you know what i am talking about...