J-rod 11 weeks out of team universe

[saucetradomous]

Haha, now the "mexican" is being attacked for being too strict with his diet on a bodybuilding forum.  This doesn't make any sense.

atleast put in two cups of licorice before bed.

[mesmorph78]

this whole discussion is really very silly.
anybody who trains serious fro more than 1,5 years will notice a screeeeching halt in gains.
you will be 10 - 15 pounds above from where you started, i am talking mass, not bloofy watery mass, clean mass.
that is where it ends!!!!!
you can keep training and training... you will remain the same!
that is how the human body works, it's laws of nature...
so any bodybuilder that is still making gains and/or progress after training serious for 1,5 years is using something!
and really this whole stupid ecto meso and endo bodytype is nonsense!
anybody can be huge! we just carry the mass different, and some do not carry it well....
like kamali, looked great when 210/220 , looks terrible now at 260+.
that is where genetics come in, bodyshape and muscle shape....
mass = drugs
shape = genetics
today bodybuilding @ ifbb toplevel is all abouit mass.. therefor bodybuilding = drugs...
really very simple to understand.

And this is the case for 6 billion  people.. I've been training naturally for close to 10 yrs now and I still make gains.... I really hate when people try to speak for everyone else in the world from behind their little keyboards... Rephrase it say YOU stopped making gains after 1.5 years of training ... Don't speak for everyone else on the Planet.

[The True Adonis]

Haha, now the "mexican" is being attacked for being too strict with his diet on a bodybuilding forum.  This doesn't make any sense.

atleast put in two cups of licorice before bed.

And so he should be since it is a clear sign of a mental problem.  Extreme Paranoia and irrationality coupled with a firm belief in Bro-Science is definitely classifiable in the DSM IV manual (The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders).

There is no reason whatsoever for his extreme behavior.

[FullROM]

anyone got a thread summary?

[che]

JRod ,how much do you weigh here ?

[saucetradomous]

And so he should be since it is a clear sign of a mental problem.  Extreme Paranoia and irrationality coupled with a firm belief in Bro-Science is definitely classifiable in the DSM IV manual (The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders).

There is no reason whatsoever for his extreme behavior.

Maybe you should put him on one of your all ice cream diets. Is that what you used to achieve 102 reps on a 225lbs deadlift?

And where is my gravity suit? I think you may be right... Clear mental issues

[OptimusPrime1980]

And this is the case for 6 billion  people.. I've been training naturally for close to 10 yrs now and I still make gains.... I really hate when people try to speak for everyone else in the world from behind their little keyboards... Rephrase it say YOU stopped making gains after 1.5 years of training ... Don't speak for everyone else on the Planet.

ofcourse you still make gains!
you have just been training your upperbody...
so still you can make gains in your sticklegs.....
and ofcourse you are extremely talented...  
yes i did stop making gains after 1,5 years.... like any person will....
if you read my post better i did say after serious training!!!!!
maybe... just maybe, you have not been training serious these 10 years?
and stop making fun of my keyboard.... it is really not that little...

[Jaime]

ofcourse you still make gains!
you have just been training your upperbody...
so still you can make gains in your sticklegs.....
and ofcourse you are extremely talented...  
yes i did stop making gains after 1,5 years.... like any person will....
if you read my post better i did say after serious training!!!!!
maybe... just maybe, you have not been training serious these 10 years?
and stop making fun of my keyboard.... it is really not that little...

1 and a half years? Fuck off you retard.

[kiwiol]

1 and a half years? Fuck off you retard.

Reality begins and ends where guys like OptimusPrime say it does. Who are you to question such expert authority?

[mesmorph78]

ofcourse you still make gains!
you have just been training your upperbody...
so still you can make gains in your sticklegs.....
and ofcourse you are extremely talented...  
yes i did stop making gains after 1,5 years.... like any person will....
if you read my post better i did say after serious training!!!!!
maybe... just maybe, you have not been training serious these 10 years?
and stop making fun of my keyboard.... it is really not that little...

Well 10 years on I still make gains.. And trust me I am a very serious trainer
So take from that what you will...

[gh15]

JRod ,how much do you weigh here ?

this is npp and low dose dianabola to cover for no testosterona in blood,,,the picture is taken when testosterona was APPLIED  to the physiqe after few months on npp and dianabolona only when,,,when he cut the dianabolona he left with npp for 10 week in ,,after that he applied the testosterona and picture ws taken within first 7 days on the testosterona,,that blow you he fuck up but the right way from within due to low bodyfat and lack of testosterona i nthe blood

this is the trick friends


about 190-200lb there,,

gh15 approved

[Jaime]

Reality begins and ends where guys like OptimusPrime say it does. Who are you to question such expert authority?

Lol  "Like any person will". oh brother.

[gh15]

Well 10 years on I still make gains.. And trust me I am a very serious trainer
So take from that what you will...

yuo are not,,yuo have no legs ,,this is why you never show the pictures of legs,,yuo are recreational hormone user also known as gym rat and on the same type of routines and cycles

gh15 approved

[Bam-bam]

this is npp and low dose dianabola to cover for no testosterona in blood,,,the picture is taken when testosterona was APPLIED  to the physiqe after few months on npp and dianabolona only when,,,when he cut the dianabolona he left with npp for 10 week in ,,after that he applied the testosterona and picture ws taken within first 7 days on the testosterona,,that blow you he fuck up but the right way from within due to low bodyfat and lack of testosterona i nthe blood

this is the trick friends


about 190-200lb there,,

gh15 approved

so this guy is following a gh15 approved protocol, cool. He is not posting anon so let him lie about being natural, its a part of the game.

[gh15]

i havwe no problem with it ,,reason i posting on here is for future generations and my pupils that come here from all over the world and the boardings on internet,,this is my obligation to tell the truth about hormones ,,im god of hormones,,if i didnt it  would be not fair twards them ,,this is just clarifying hormone facts,,any bodybuildeer know the truth but this is for the begginers the ones who stil doubt natural status...not many around btu they have gh15 now day insted of flex magazine they had in 1992...now day the genration unerstands everything due to me in a big part ,,this is why i keep posting here in this tread,, also i dotn see getny yet..he wil probably shw up on page 50 or so

gh15 approved

[che]

1 and a half years? Fuck off you retard.

I don't believe that either  but after  3 or 4 years of serious training, gains come really slow and small.
 JRod   is going  from 176 lbs shredded (2010) to 187 lbs shredded (2011 )
11lbs  of lean body mass (muscles ) in only 1 year ? (after 10 years of serious natural training ) I don't think so.

[OptimusPrime1980]

Lol  "Like any person will". oh brother.

never said i am an expert on anything...
just what i observed , i train for about ten years on and of.
and do train others...
after 1,5 years give or take some depending the individual.
after these 1,5 of doing everything right.... you stop gaining!
just a fact, that is how the human body works.
maybe you guys are not human? lol...

[MONSTER_TRICEPS]

I don't believe that either  but after  3 or 4 years of serious training, gains come really slow and small.
 JRod   is going  from 176 lbs shredded (2010)  lbs  to 187 lbs shredded (2011 )
11lbs  of lean body mass (muscles ) in only 1 year ? (after 10 years of serious natural training ) I don't think so.

Impossible.

[Army of One]

I dont know about Mexican, if he sat next to me on a plane looking like this Id be making him throw his shoes out of the window.

[OptimusPrime1980]

1 and a half years? Fuck off you retard.

you can disagree with me... fine...
why call me a retard? you do not even no me.
real mature.

[saucetradomous]

I don't believe that either  but after  3 or 4 years of serious training, gains come really slow and small.
 JRod   is going  from 176 lbs shredded (2010) to 187 lbs shredded (2011 )
11lbs  of lean body mass (muscles ) in only 1 year ? (after 10 years of serious natural training ) I don't think so.

He was sitting at the same weight last year but over dieted I think.  I guarantee he will drop to the high 170lbs for this competition again

[che]

after these 1,5 of doing everything right.... you stop gaining!

Not true.

[notsureifsrs]

this is npp and low dose dianabola to cover for no testosterona in blood,,,the picture is taken when testosterona was APPLIED  to the physiqe after few months on npp and dianabolona only when,,,when he cut the dianabolona he left with npp for 10 week in ,,after that he applied the testosterona and picture ws taken within first 7 days on the testosterona,,that blow you he fuck up but the right way from within due to low bodyfat and lack of testosterona i nthe blood

this is the trick friends


about 190-200lb there,,

gh15 approved

Why go without test? at least some minimal base will just help...
and by saying the "right way" you mean right way for someone who claims natural and might be tested for drugs at any moment?
Because unless this is the situation, is there really advantage to go with NPP over Deca?

[saucetradomous]

never said i am an expert on anything...
just what i observed , i train for about ten years on and of.
and do train others...
after 1,5 years give or take some depending the individual.
after these 1,5 of doing everything right.... you stop gaining!
just a fact, that is how the human body works.
maybe you guys are not human? lol...

Between 3 and 4 it became slow for me.  Nobody is the same.

[OptimusPrime1980]

Not true.

fine, if you call 1 kilo a year lean mass gaining....
i have seen it many times... the human body is not meant to be muscular.
no reason for it!
so you are constantly fighting nature...
and after 1,5 years give or take some...
it stops... the gaining stops... strenght still increases... but lean mass..... no
and i am talking fully grown mature human beings...not teens or very young still growing adults...
i am talking 22/23 and up....