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Re: Ron Paul: The GOP Candidate to Beat?
« Reply #100 on: May 16, 2011, 12:06:26 AM »
I determine race by either looking at someone and making an assumption or using whatever classification they want to go by.  But I don't really care about race, other than when it comes to employment decisions.  

Because I hire, manage, and fire employees, I have to be aware of "protected classes" so I don't get into trouble.  I have interviewed a lot of people over the years.  I cannot refuse to hire someone because they are a certain race, or if I think they're a certain race.  You're the only one confused about it.  I think it's funny.   :)
A few posts ago you stated "You can't always determine a person's race by looking at them."  And now you are saying that to determine race you must either look at someone and then make an assumption or just take someones word for it and use whatever they feel like calling themselves on any particular day.  So anyone can be any race at any given time simply because they can choose to call themselves whatever race they want?  Is that right?  If thats the case, how can you offer any kind of protection or even define what a "protected class" is if anyone can bullshit whatever race they want to be?

It doesn`t make sense to give special protection to something you can`t define.  

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Re: Ron Paul: The GOP Candidate to Beat?
« Reply #101 on: May 16, 2011, 12:09:12 AM »
Whatever they want to be called.  

Unless they want to attend Kamehameha Schools.   :)
So race is all bullshit and its just left up to the individual to determine whatever race they want to be.  Ok, I am now a black man.    I know you can get free stuff for being black.  Would you be opposed to me getting the free stuff because I am now a black man?

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Re: Ron Paul: The GOP Candidate to Beat?
« Reply #102 on: May 16, 2011, 12:11:19 AM »
A few posts ago you stated "You can't always determine a person's race by looking at them."  And now you are saying that to determine race you must either look at someone and then make an assumption or just take someones word for it and use whatever they feel like calling themselves on any particular day.  So anyone can be any race at any given time simply because they can choose to call themselves whatever race they want?  Is that right?  If thats the case, how can you offer any kind of protection or even define what a "protected class" is if anyone can bullshit whatever race they want to be?

It doesn`t make sense to give special protection to something you can`t define.  

No, you cannot always determine a person's race by looking at them.  

Yes, I personally make an assumption about a person's race when I look at them.  

Yes, I take someone's "word" for it when they choose to tell me whatever their race is (which I never ask anyway).  

No, race doesn't matter to me, unless I'm making an employment decision, in which case I ensure my decisions are race neutral.  

And . . .  unsolicited . . . no, I will not keep repeatedly answering the same dumb question.   :)  If you want to know how some place like the Equal Employer Opportunity Commission handles race discrimination, use Google.    

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Re: Ron Paul: The GOP Candidate to Beat?
« Reply #103 on: May 16, 2011, 12:12:38 AM »
So race is all bullshit and its just left up to the individual to determine whatever race they want to be.  Ok, I am now a black man.    I know you can get free stuff for being black.  Would you be opposed to me getting the free stuff because I am now a black man?

LOL!  I don't give a rip what you call yourself.  Personally, I would call you a close-minded, racist, probably homosexual white dude.  But that's only if you were to ask.   :D 

I honestly don't care. 

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Re: Ron Paul: The GOP Candidate to Beat?
« Reply #104 on: May 16, 2011, 12:14:08 AM »
No, you cannot always determine a person's race by looking at them.  

Yes, I personally make an assumption about a person's race when I look at them.  

Yes, I take someone's "word" for it when they choose to tell me whatever their race is (which I never ask anyway).  

No, race doesn't matter to me, unless I'm making an employment decision, in which case I ensure my decisions are race neutral.  

And . . .  unsolicited . . . no, I will not keep repeatedly answering the same dumb question.   :)  If you want to know how some place like the Equal Employer Opportunity Commission handles race discrimination, use Google.    

How can you support special protection for something you have no way of defining other then your best guess or someone word?  You had no clue that this guy was a black man afterall.


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Re: Ron Paul: The GOP Candidate to Beat?
« Reply #105 on: May 16, 2011, 12:15:35 AM »
How can you support special protection for something you have no way of defining other then your best guess or someone word?  You had no clue that this guy was a black man afterall.



Who cares?  Other than you? 

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Re: Ron Paul: The GOP Candidate to Beat?
« Reply #106 on: May 16, 2011, 12:18:42 AM »
LOL!  I don't give a rip what you call yourself.  Personally, I would call you a close-minded, racist, probably homosexual white dude.  But that's only if you were to ask.   :D 

I honestly don't care. 
Why would I be racist if I don`t believe its possible to define?  How could I be one?  I hate people on a case by case basis equally I might add.  

How can anyone be racist if you cannot even define what a race is?  I am a black man today and tomorrow I will go back to being white.  You said you define race either by how someone looks to you, or by what they say.  So tonight, I am a black man.  Do I need to go out and by a doo-rag or something now?

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Re: Ron Paul: The GOP Candidate to Beat?
« Reply #107 on: May 16, 2011, 12:20:50 AM »
Why would I be racist if I don`t believe its possible to define?  How could I be one?  I hate people on a case by case basis equally I might add.  

How can anyone be racist if you cannot even define what a race is?  I am a black man today and tomorrow I will go back to being white.  You said you define race either by how someone looks to you, or by what they say.  So tonight, I am a black man.  Do I need to go out and by a doo-rag or something now?

Do whatever it is that you do to make you happy.

Me?  I am working while screwing around on the internet.   :)

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Re: Ron Paul: The GOP Candidate to Beat?
« Reply #108 on: May 16, 2011, 12:22:45 AM »
Who cares?  Other than you? 
This is what you posted:  "discrimination on the basis of a "protected class" that's wrong.  Race/ethnicity = protected class."

How can you give protection to something you can`t define which in this case is race and ethnicity?


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Re: Ron Paul: The GOP Candidate to Beat?
« Reply #109 on: May 16, 2011, 12:24:44 AM »
Do whatever it is that you do to make you happy.

Me?  I am working while screwing around on the internet.   :)
How can I convey to the world that I am now a black man?  How do light-skinned people do it?  How does any "black" man complete their identity as to let the world know that they are black?  Seriously.


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Re: Ron Paul: The GOP Candidate to Beat?
« Reply #110 on: May 16, 2011, 12:25:47 AM »
This is what you posted:  "discrimination on the basis of a "protected class" that's wrong.  Race/ethnicity = protected class."

How can you give protection to something you can`t define which in this case is race and ethnicity?



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And . . .  unsolicited . . . no, I will not keep repeatedly answering the same dumb question.   :)  If you want to know how some place like the Equal Employer Opportunity Commission handles race discrimination, use Google.    

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Re: Ron Paul: The GOP Candidate to Beat?
« Reply #111 on: May 16, 2011, 12:27:07 AM »
How can I convey to the world that I am now a black man?  How do light-skinned people do it?  How does any "black" man complete their identity as to let the world know that they are black?  Seriously.



Maybe watch some clips of Chris Rock?  He's pretty good. 

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Re: Ron Paul: The GOP Candidate to Beat?
« Reply #112 on: May 16, 2011, 12:30:04 AM »


You said you go by only two criteria when determining someones race:

1. By their appearance and then you make an assumption using your own prejudices of how each race SHOULD look

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2. By whatever the person tells you they are. (Today I am a Black Man in case your forgot)


Now, you are referring me to the Equal Employer Opportunity Commission?  ???  Why?  They can`t define race or ethnicity any better than you can and your attempts are VERY POOR.

Sorry, as a black man today, I am having difficulty wondering how you can support protecting something that is impossible to define.

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Re: Ron Paul: The GOP Candidate to Beat?
« Reply #113 on: May 16, 2011, 12:30:54 AM »
Maybe watch some clips of Chris Rock?  He's pretty good. 
What characterizes him as a Black Man?  How can you tell besides his appearance?

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Re: Ron Paul: The GOP Candidate to Beat?
« Reply #114 on: May 16, 2011, 12:33:28 AM »
You have exceeded your quota of (the same) dumb questions for the evening.  Try again tomorrow.   :D

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Re: Ron Paul: The GOP Candidate to Beat?
« Reply #115 on: May 16, 2011, 12:40:39 AM »
You have exceeded your quota of (the same) dumb questions for the evening.  Try again tomorrow.   :D
You have no answer to them.

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Re: Ron Paul: The GOP Candidate to Beat?
« Reply #116 on: May 16, 2011, 01:01:27 AM »
You can`t tell me what race someone who is 1/16th black is and you certainly can`t tell me what race Barack Obama is.  He is just as much white as he is anything, so how would we be able to determine that he was being discriminated against because he was black if he is equally white?  What does race even mean? 



O.K.  You are an ignorant little troll.  You don't know what race means?  You can't define a "black" person or a "white" person?  O Rly? 

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Play that troll game with someone else.  Don't make me have to look for more, you little troll.  lol . . . .



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Re: Ron Paul: The GOP Candidate to Beat?
« Reply #117 on: May 16, 2011, 01:08:13 AM »
O.K.  You are an ignorant little troll.  You don't know what race means?  You can't define a "black" person or a "white" person?  O Rly? 



Play that troll game with someone else.  Don't make me have to look for more, you little troll.  lol . . . .



You have yet to define a black or a white person.  YOU determine a persons race by using your own prejudices of what a certain race SHOULD look like and then using your own prejudices to make an assumption.

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You simply take someones word for it and go with whatever race they wish to be called.

So tell me,  within your self admitted parameters of judging race, how do you define which race is which?  Just because I have got you in a position where you have absolutely no answer does not mean I am a "troll".

Afterall, you are the one who wants to give special protection to something you can`t define.  Not me.

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Re: Ron Paul: The GOP Candidate to Beat?
« Reply #118 on: May 16, 2011, 06:20:53 AM »
We can always count on TA to send what started as a good debate in this thread into the crapper. Well done.

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Re: Ron Paul: The GOP Candidate to Beat?
« Reply #119 on: May 16, 2011, 10:26:21 AM »
This is why Ron Paul is going to have a difficult time getting elected:

Ron Paul Says He Would Have Opposed 1964 Civil Rights Act Ending Segregation


Im sure this is the general attitude throughout the country.


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Re: Ron Paul: The GOP Candidate to Beat?
« Reply #120 on: May 16, 2011, 10:30:40 AM »
We can always count on TA to send what started as a good debate in this thread into the crapper. Well done.
Can you define race and if you are unable to do so, how can you give special protection to something you can`t define?


This should be an argument in favor for Poopsters, or do you not understand my points?

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Re: Ron Paul: The GOP Candidate to Beat?
« Reply #121 on: May 16, 2011, 11:46:32 AM »
Can you define race and if you are unable to do so, how can you give special protection to something you can`t define?


This should be an argument in favor for Poopsters, or do you not understand my points?


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Re: Ron Paul: The GOP Candidate to Beat?
« Reply #122 on: May 16, 2011, 12:00:06 PM »


I do understand that this is your way of dealing with a question/issue that you have absolutely no answer to.


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Re: Ron Paul: The GOP Candidate to Beat?
« Reply #123 on: May 16, 2011, 12:07:30 PM »
I do understand that this is your way of dealing with a question/issue that you have absolutely no answer to.



You figgin troll.  You claim there is no way to define race, yet you use racial classifications all the time.   ::)

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Re: Ron Paul: The GOP Candidate to Beat?
« Reply #124 on: May 16, 2011, 12:08:06 PM »
Oh snap.  I fed the troll.   :-[   :D