Can we say the quality of "music" has decreased over the past 20 years?

[Agnostic007]

A Master Ballad for you Wiggs.  Listen to the power of Tyler`s voice.

This song, written by Jim Steinman was supposed to go to Meatloaf. Meatloafs label refused to pay Jim so he gave it to Tyler. Same with LOve out of nothing at all with Air Supply.. supposed to go to Meatloaf... Steinman is a musical genius

[NelsonMuntz]

where is wiggs or is he just exclusively using his rangerwill account now?

[HTexan]

where is wiggs or is he just exclusively using his rangerwill account now?

Wigs is this guys main account? I didn’t know wiggs played on the other team. Makes sense though.

[Derrick Rigg]

I think bad music goes in cycles. There's been alot of shit around the past 6-8 years but the 1970s probably had the most shit music I've ever heard.

[Notomorrow]

The decline of modern music resulted from slavery. In traditional classical/baroque or "white" music, there was complex melody and harmony...counterpoint. While rythm existed, it was only part of a songs whole.

In contrast, the traditional music of Africa was mostly centered ONLY on rythm and the banging of the drum.Watch several traditional African dances and there is ONLY banging on the drum..no song to be found.

American pop music tried to mix the two musical cultures...first in jazz and big band then of course rock

Whites would write melody and harmony...but the accentuated drum beat would still be the basis for the song. Some artists could blend the two styles quite well ala Billy Joel for an example

Yet the last 20 years has realized that idiot American youths ..the main buyees of pop music...really are too stupid to look for Melody or harmony...so modern artists no longer look for song writers...they look for someone to create a "beat"...Its reverted to basically banging on a drum repetitively while aomeone raps or some shit over it...notice the emphasis on girls with big butts..girls with the biggest butt would show it off in Traditional African dances in the fucking Safari while a drum was banged...were going back to that

No bridges..melodies..its sad...now major producers like Dre Or Diddy can shell out catchy idiot beats for hit after hit after hit

In the old days they had to work with songwriters like Burt Bacharach..Marvin Hamlish,etc

No more...its "de" evolution at its finest.

[Shizzo]

I miss my buddy Wiggs....

Has anyone heard from him? Tommywishbone, when was the last time you saw him?

It's almost like he has fallen off the edge of the flat earth.

[tres_taco_combo]

just discover new genre?

for me i love female punk rocker bands this year (Distellers #1) and classic music (Mozart etc)

[Gregzs]

New Rule: Equality of Outcomes

[Gregzs]

Everything But The Girl tease return with first new music in 24 years



Everything But The Girl have shared a short video teasing their first new music in 24 years – check it out below.

Last year, Everything But The Girl confirmed they would be reuniting to record a new album – their first since 1999’s ‘Temperamental’.

“Just thought you’d like to know that Ben (Watt) and I have made a new Everything But The Girl album. It’ll be out next spring,” the band’s Tracey Thorn wrote on Twitter.

Today (January 6) the band shared a short video teasing the upcoming album. “Get ready for the kiss,” Everything But The Girl wrote alongside hashtags confirming both a “new single” and a “new album”.

The clip itself features spoken word poetry over industrial buzzing. “What is left to lose? Nothing left to lose. Kiss me while the world decays. Kiss me while the music plays. What is left to lose? Nothing left to lose,” says the mysterious voice in the teaser before a “coming soon” message appears. Check it out

Formed in 1982 by Tracey Thorn and Ben Watt, Everything But The Girl went on to release eleven studio albums alongside collaborations with Massive Attack.

The duo racked up twelve Top 40 singles in the UK including hit single ‘Missing’, which peaked at Number Three while a remix by Todd Terry helped the track earn a BRIT nomination for Best Single.

https://www.nme.com/news/music/everything-but-the-girl-tease-return-with-first-new-music-in-24-years-3376214?fbclid=IwAR1ywjJpjLxTpZqiSUhTQZ6UfePNpblz4T8PhVBV7ACqHyToO_U7uTlg8Yc

[wes]

Here`s some bluesy shit from the man.....enlighten yourselves you unwashed heathens! 

[Moontrane]

Everything But The Girl tease return with first new music in 24 years



Everything But The Girl have shared a short video teasing their first new music in 24 years – check it out below.

Last year, Everything But The Girl confirmed they would be reuniting to record a new album – their first since 1999’s ‘Temperamental’.

“Just thought you’d like to know that Ben (Watt) and I have made a new Everything But The Girl album. It’ll be out next spring,” the band’s Tracey Thorn wrote on Twitter.

Today (January 6) the band shared a short video teasing the upcoming album. “Get ready for the kiss,” Everything But The Girl wrote alongside hashtags confirming both a “new single” and a “new album”.

The clip itself features spoken word poetry over industrial buzzing. “What is left to lose? Nothing left to lose. Kiss me while the world decays. Kiss me while the music plays. What is left to lose? Nothing left to lose,” says the mysterious voice in the teaser before a “coming soon” message appears. Check it out

Formed in 1982 by Tracey Thorn and Ben Watt, Everything But The Girl went on to release eleven studio albums alongside collaborations with Massive Attack.

The duo racked up twelve Top 40 singles in the UK including hit single ‘Missing’, which peaked at Number Three while a remix by Todd Terry helped the track earn a BRIT nomination for Best Single.

https://www.nme.com/news/music/everything-but-the-girl-tease-return-with-first-new-music-in-24-years-3376214?fbclid=IwAR1ywjJpjLxTpZqiSUhTQZ6UfePNpblz4T8PhVBV7ACqHyToO_U7uTlg8Yc

Wonderful solo by the late, great Michael Brecker.

[delon]

Another bit of collateral damage of the Internet Revolution:

a) The direct overt implications on the business model collapsing and struggling to re-group, as mentioned by others 

b) Young people dreaming of fame and all its attendant rewards previously saw music as one of the three primary avenues. And the other 2 were exclusionary largely based on genetic lottery (film star looks and athletic ability). Now you can basically get all the superficial rewards of fame via the internet Influencer route (if you have looks/charm) or personality/app route (if you are introverted/geekier). In other words, you don't need to do so via music. Many kids used to list 'being a rock/pop star' as their dream, I can guarantee that ratio has declined dramatically correlating with the rise of the net /smart phones

c) Lack of boredom
Teenagers used to get together and form groups or tinker around in their bedroom with their guitar or practice singing or stare at exotic record covers for hours dreaming of stardom, and going out to see performers frequently
Since the late 90s with the nascent internet revolution, and escalating exponentially since the smart phone circa 2007 onwards, kids aren't bored anymore (which in turn would lead to the above), they are on their phones
So a huge amount of kids with latent music talent or had been drenched and obsessed and absorbed with music (and would as a consequence spend hours practising and copying and finding their own musical feet) that then results in era defining music are simply not happening now to the same scale

[Kwon_2]

The decline of modern music resulted from slavery. In traditional classical/baroque or "white" music, there was complex melody and harmony...counterpoint. While rythm existed, it was only part of a songs whole.

In contrast, the traditional music of Africa was mostly centered ONLY on rythm and the banging of the drum.Watch several traditional African dances and there is ONLY banging on the drum..no song to be found.

American pop music tried to mix the two musical cultures...first in jazz and big band then of course rock

Whites would write melody and harmony...but the accentuated drum beat would still be the basis for the song. Some artists could blend the two styles quite well ala Billy Joel for an example

Yet the last 20 years has realized that idiot American youths ..the main buyees of pop music...really are too stupid to look for Melody or harmony...so modern artists no longer look for song writers...they look for someone to create a "beat"...Its reverted to basically banging on a drum repetitively while aomeone raps or some shit over it...notice the emphasis on girls with big butts..girls with the biggest butt would show it off in Traditional African dances in the fucking Safari while a drum was banged...were going back to that

No bridges..melodies..its sad...now major producers like Dre Or Diddy can shell out catchy idiot beats for hit after hit after hit

In the old days they had to work with songwriters like Burt Bacharach..Marvin Hamlish,etc

No more...its "de" evolution at its finest.

This is a great summary

[Humble Narcissist]

This is a great summary

Yes, it is.

[Gym Rat]

Music has been declining since the early 80's. Think MTV era, synth (flock of seagulls) rap (Run DMC) etc.
Think about rap for a second. Programmed sequencers/samplers while "talking" nonsense along side it.
Flock of Seagulls and other synth-pop (just horrible nonsense).

Actual hard-rock / analog playing started to go out the window, now anyone can be a "star" and not know a lick of music theory, or never touch and instrument.

[joswift]

The duo racked up twelve Top 40 singles in the UK including hit single ‘Missing’, which peaked at Number Three while a remix by Todd Terry helped the track earn a BRIT nomination for Best Single.

classic track, remixed multiple times

[Humble Narcissist]

Music has been declining since the early 80's. Think MTV era, synth (flock of seagulls) rap (Run DMC) etc.
Think about rap for a second. Programmed sequencers/samplers while "talking" nonsense along side it.
Flock of Seagulls and other synth-pop (just horrible nonsense).

Actual hard-rock / analog playing started to go out the window, now anyone can be a "star" and not know a lick of music theory, or never touch and instrument.

Yeah, hip hop took over and everything today is shit. The advantage we have today though is we can always listen to older music.

[IroNat]

Music went down the tubes when rap and hip hip were invented.

[Kwon_2]

Music went down the tubes when rap and hip hip were invented.

I've always wondered what music we would have if they never brought any slaves from Africa to the US

Lets say they used Native Americans and Asians instead for Cottonpicking

[IroNat]

I've always wondered what music we would have if they never brought any slaves from Africa to the US

Lets say they used Native Americans and Asians instead for Cottonpicking

Those people like lots of drumming but they use a different musical scale.

[Humble Narcissist]

I've always wondered what music we would have if they never brought any slaves from Africa to the US

Lets say they used Native Americans and Asians instead for Cottonpicking

Natives couldn't be used as slaves as they would either escape or team up to kill the slave owner. They did own slaves though.