Author Topic: Arnold Schwarzenegger - Team Arnold! Yeah or nay? (Read 25650 times)

BayGBM · « **Reply #75 on:** May 17, 2011, 03:49:58 PM »

Quote from: wild willie on May 17, 2011, 01:31:50 PM

COME ON GUYS.......CHRIST ALMIGHTY.......YOU THINK ARNIE IS THE ONLY BLOKE OUT THERE SCREWING AROUND......HOW ABOUT ALL THE OTHER GUYS IN HIGH PLACES.....HOW ABOUT PREZ CLINTON......HOW ABOUT ALL THE REGULAR DUDES YOU NEVER HEAR ABOUT BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE THE POWER OR DEEP POCKETS.....SOME OF YOU GUYS WANT TO BASH ARNIE......THIS SHIT HAPPENS ALL OVER THE PLACE......NOT CONDONING THIS BEHAVIOR......BUT QUIT WITH ALL THE REMARKS ABOUT HOW HE GOT TO HIGH PLACES......THE MAN MIGHT HAVE HAD AN AFFAIR AND A CHILD OUT OF WEDLOCK......BUT CHRIST......THE MAN HAS ALWAYS BEEN DRIVEN TO SUCCEED.....I THINK A LOT OF YOU HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS NEWS.......THIS DOESN'T CHANGE WHAT ARNIE HAS ACCOMPLISHED IN HIS PROFESSIONAL LIFE...JUST MY OPINION THOUGH.

I am really surprised to hear this coming from you. The ability to name another, or a bigger, villain does not justify or excuse Arnold’s behavior. Having an affair is one thing; we all know someone who has done that—we all probably have someone in our family who has done it, but Arnold did not just have an affair or a child out of wedlock. He had an affair with a domestic worker in his home right in the face of his wife and children! One of the first rules of nature is “don’t foul your own nest.” Arnold did that!

The woman had his child and was living in his house for ten years. The family knew the child, met the child, probably played with the child all the while he and the mother knew that he was the father. Imagine years of secret payments that his wife never knew about… This is a deep betrayal and certainly a mockery of marriage as most people define it.

Meanwhile this secret was tucked away as he angled to become governor knowing full well that the public would not smile on his candidacy if they knew the truth about his behavior. As HowDog said, if he is willing to live such an enormous lie to his family why would he have any qualms about lying to the public—about anything?

During the recall election when he ran for Governor, Arnold made a big show of the fact that he was not going to take a salary, but what he did not disclose was the fact that the day before he was sworn in, he inked a secret deal with AMI to promote their (bodybuilding) magazines and business interests--a deal that would guarantee him a minimum of a $1 million a year and usually much more! The truth of that secret deal only came to light when a nosy reporter combed through the SEC filings for AMI and found reference to an agreement with someone only identified as Mr. S. Under political pressure, Mr. S agreed to void the contract and sever his agreement with AMI, but he did not return monies already paid by AMI. I trust you are wise enough to connect the dots between these two episodes.

Has Arnold has a successful career? Sure, but success built on colossal lies and years of deception is not success. If it were then Bernie Madoff would be a national hero.

Dreadlifter · « **Reply #76 on:** May 17, 2011, 03:55:17 PM »

Somebody hand that boy a tissue to mop his tears of sorrow.

A boy's love for a man crushed. Tough times

dyslexic · « **Reply #77 on:** May 17, 2011, 04:26:20 PM »

Quote from: tendonitis on May 17, 2011, 01:39:11 PM

this will be forgotten in about 5 minutes, 2 minutes faster than people have forgotten about Bin Laden getting shot

Oh yeah. I forgot about that.

240 is Back · « **Reply #78 on:** May 17, 2011, 04:30:40 PM »

Quote from: Butterbean on May 17, 2011, 01:36:42 PM

People have pretty short memories. A lot of people don't remember that Bill Clinton was impeached.

clearly palin's fault.

supernick · « **Reply #79 on:** May 17, 2011, 05:31:19 PM »

Arnold is the ultimate alpha male,, his actions should be an example to all of us

HowDog · « **Reply #80 on:** May 17, 2011, 05:33:28 PM »

Quote from: hench on May 17, 2011, 03:00:10 PM

Dunno why people are getting so upset. There isn't one perfect person on earth. Everyone lies and hurts someone elses feelings to some capacity in life.
Hollywood stars get bored, too much temptation and opportunity. 95% of movie stars past and present have had or are having affairs.
Clint Eastwood, DeNiro, John Wayne, Humprey Bogart, Brad Pitt, Van damme, Arnold, Stallone, Russell crow, Tom Cruise, the list is endless. It's not just the men either!
If we hated and boycotted every cheater there would be no film industry and we probably wouldn't have many friends either...

I understand mistakes, but this situation comes from his core character. We know he cheated before and boys will be boys but dude ate where he shits. No goood. Makes me only think what other character flaws he has like constant lying. Yeah he might be successful but I am sure when he is not successful on something he lies to keep up appearances.

tom joad · « **Reply #81 on:** May 17, 2011, 05:37:35 PM »

"Strive for excellence, exceed yourself, love your friend, speak the truth, practice fidelity and honor your father and mother. These principle will help you to master yourself, make you strong, give you hope and put you on the path to greatness."

- Joe Weider, Trainer of Champions

Howard · « **Reply #82 on:** May 17, 2011, 05:38:10 PM »

Quote from: BayGBM on May 17, 2011, 03:49:58 PM

I am really surprised to hear this coming from you. The ability to name another, or a bigger, villain does not justify or excuse Arnold’s behavior. Having an affair is one thing; we all know someone who has done that—we all probably have someone in our family who has done it, but Arnold did not just have an affair or a child out of wedlock. He had an affair with a domestic worker in his home right in the face of his wife and children! One of the first rules of nature is “don’t foul your own nest.” Arnold did that!

The woman had his child and was living in his house for ten years. The family knew the child, met the child, probably played with the child all the while he and the mother knew that he was the father. Imagine years of secret payments that his wife never knew about… This is a deep betrayal and certainly a mockery of marriage as most people define it.

Meanwhile this secret was tucked away as he angled to become governor knowing full well that the public would not smile on his candidacy if they knew the truth about his behavior. As HowDog said, if he is willing to live such an enormous lie to his family why would he have any qualms about lying to the public—about anything?

During the recall election when he ran for Governor, Arnold made a big show of the fact that he was not going to take a salary, but what he did not disclose was the fact that the day before he was sworn in, he inked a secret deal with AMI to promote their (bodybuilding) magazines and business interests--a deal that would guarantee him a minimum of a $1 million a year and usually much more! The truth of that secret deal only came to light when a nosy reporter combed through the SEC filings for AMI and found reference to an agreement with someone only identified as Mr. S. Under political pressure, Mr. S agreed to void the contract and sever his agreement with AMI, but he did not return monies already paid by AMI. I trust you are wise enough to connect the dots between these two episodes.

Has Arnold has a successful career? Sure, but success built on colossal lies and years of deception is not success. If it were then Bernie Madoff would be a national hero.

Good post Bay, really sums up the key issues here.

Natural Man · « **Reply #83 on:** May 17, 2011, 05:38:53 PM »

well dude has been abusing so many things since so long i doubt he cares about anything anymore right now. After all life is all about lying at any cost, cigars, steroid muscles and cars isnt it?

Reeves · « **Reply #84 on:** May 17, 2011, 05:54:44 PM »

This will be very difficult for Arnold to overcome, especially so with his family and that would include the child from this affair.

He is fucked. He may be Arnold, but unless he can convince his entire family to forgive him this very serious transgression against his entire family, he is fucked for life.

He can surround himself with beautiful women but without his family he will be a facade. I don't feel sorry for him, I do feel sorry for his family. His wife and all of his children. As previously stated here, character is much easier kept than recovered.

Master Blaster · « **Reply #85 on:** May 17, 2011, 05:59:26 PM »

Quote from: supernick on May 17, 2011, 05:31:19 PM

Arnold is the ultimate alpha male,, his actions should be an example to all of us

TEAM ARNOLD 4 LIFEEEEE!!!!1!!!!!!

lightweight · « **Reply #86 on:** May 17, 2011, 06:03:57 PM »

Quote from: Butterbean on May 17, 2011, 01:32:11 PM

I wonder if the child knows Arnold is his father......and if he does, how has and will that affect him mentally/emotionally to have been kept a secret.

who cares? he owes his life to arnold

Army of One · « **Reply #87 on:** May 17, 2011, 06:04:45 PM »

These days once all the news outlets realise that Pandoras Box has been opened on a previously untouchable celeb then its a green light to find every dirty story on them in lightning fast fashion, expect this to get much worse very quickly.

Dokey111 · « **Reply #88 on:** May 17, 2011, 06:29:38 PM »

He won't recover.

chaos · « **Reply #89 on:** May 17, 2011, 06:31:01 PM »

Quote from: HowDog on May 17, 2011, 01:21:20 PM

I was a Schwarzenegger fan since I was 14, bought all his books, overtrained by using all his excersie programs, watched pumping iron probably 30 times in my life. I have thrown all of it away. I know no one is perfect and as fans we forgave him with his cheating. What disturbs me about him is that he kept everything a secret, the affair with live in maid, ten year old child out of wetlock. I don't know how he could always be smiling. he is a selfish prick, phony and fraud. I thought guys like mentzer, and rick wayne were haters but they knew arnold was a total asshole. This is unbelievable. So if this dude could lie like this to his closest family imagine all the lies he told magazines. I hate Arnold.

Meltdown.

Nirvana · « **Reply #90 on:** May 17, 2011, 07:36:02 PM »

Quote from: dyslexic on May 17, 2011, 04:26:20 PM

Oh yeah. I forgot about that.

forgot about what

.

Otis B Driftwood · « **Reply #91 on:** May 17, 2011, 07:49:00 PM »

2012 Arnold

Mr Nobody · « **Reply #92 on:** May 17, 2011, 07:55:36 PM »

He will be more popular than ever.

Captain Equipoise · « **Reply #93 on:** May 17, 2011, 07:56:32 PM »

I'm guessing Arnold will tap at least 30 smoking hot fitness chic's without having to worry or look behind his shoulder!

Mr Nobody · « **Reply #94 on:** May 17, 2011, 08:07:36 PM »

Doug_Steele · « **Reply #95 on:** May 17, 2011, 08:10:04 PM »

Charlie Sheen can do coke, endanger his kids, have porn stars everywhere, beat his ex-wife, go on binges and people love him.

Mel Gibson can go on Ant-Jew rants, pop his ex in the mouth, call her and threaten her,...etc. People love him!

Jessie James can have Nazi Paraphernalia, cheat on his wife with many strippers and porno queens...all is forgiven.

Ben Rothelisberger can Rape two women and people still love him.

Kobe cheats on his wife and rapes a woman in the ass - No biggie.

Tiger Woods is the All American poster boy for Golf and cheats on his "Wonderful Wife" and puts his family through so much shit, but people accept him back and feel sorry for him.

So, Arnold, beloved Action Movie Star, EX- Bodybuilder, Gives to Speical Olympics, cheats on his wife, has a kid with a family friend and all will be forgiven.

"IT'S HOLLYWOOD"

People forget and forgive....it's not like he killed anyone.

Mr Nobody · « **Reply #96 on:** May 17, 2011, 08:11:43 PM »

Quote from: Doug_Steele on May 17, 2011, 08:10:04 PM

Charlie Sheen can do coke, endanger his kids, have porn stars everywhere, beat his ex-wife, go on binges and people love him.

Mel Gibson can go on Ant-Jew rants, pop his ex in the mouth, call her and threaten her,...etc. People love him!

Jessie James can have Nazi Paraphernalia, cheat on his wife with many strippers and porno queens...all is forgiven.

Ben Rothelisberger can Rape two women and people still love him.

Kobe cheats on his wife and rapes a woman in the ass - No biggie.

Tiger Woods is the All American poster boy for Golf and cheats on his "Wonderful Wife" and puts his family through so much shit, but people accept him back and feel sorry for him.

So, Arnold, beloved Action Movie Star, EX- Bodybuilder, Gives to Speical Olympics, cheats on his wife, has a kid with a family friend and all will be forgiven.

"IT'S HOLLYWOOD"

People forget and forgive....it's not like he killed anyone.

X2.

chunkramwell · « **Reply #97 on:** May 17, 2011, 08:25:15 PM »

sync pulse · « **Reply #98 on:** May 17, 2011, 08:26:58 PM »

Some years ago on a trip to Los Angeles, I met a guy who was a sound man for Merv Griffin productions. He told me about how Merv taught Arnold about investing and that Arnold got his...errrr, aahh... seed money...from his appearances on the Merv Griffin show.

jaejonna · « **Reply #99 on:** May 17, 2011, 08:29:40 PM »

Did anyone honestly think that the guy from pumping iron would become a loyal husband

Hahahhaah he is still the wolf who can eat when he wants to.