Natural bodybuilding goals, let's get real here

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[DK II]

Steroids, and you know why?

Bale is known to be a "method actor", meaning he tries to get as deep into the character of the role as he can.

Now Bateman in Psycho used steroids, so I bet 10 G that Bale would use them to get in shape and get the feeling Bateman talks about in the book.

[jon cole]

This is so fucking true, 10000% spot on.


When you are natural you diet and diet, you search for improvements in the mirror every day, you think "ahhh, here i MIGHT have improved a little" and then you meet someone you haven't seen in a few weeks or months and the first thing they say is: "Do you still work out?"....  

And you want to cry, you want to scream "Yeah motherfucker i do, 5 days a week, diet, cardio, everything!!" but you know how they would just think that you are crazy because what they read in the magazines is that Christian Bale bullked up 50lbs of muscle in 12 weeks and had to cut down because he was to big, and that Brad Pitt build 30lbs of muscle for Troy in 6 weeks.

Then you start to realize, you have to get bigger, so you bulk and you feel GOOD!! Your T-Shirt gets small, people tell you "Hey what's up, you got bigger since i last saw you!!" and you bulk and bulk some more, and before you know it people tell you "Do you still work out, you have gotten fat man"...

Now go back to the first paragraph OR enter steroids and see your body transform into what you have been dreaming of for so many years in a matter of weeks.  

similar thing to me, one day a buddy show me a roid freak in the street, "at least you can see he's a bodybuilder, not like you" 

[DK II]

similar thing to me, one day a buddy show me a roid freak in the street, "at least you can see he's a bodybuilder, not like you" 

There is no such thing as natural bodybuilding, took me a long time to understand that.

[dragonfist]

There is no such thing as natural bodybuilding, took me a long time to understand that.

You end up having to settle on being moderately big but soft or ripped and small.

[tlc]

Bale could be a pro bber in 12 months if he wanted to. As he's not insane, it'll never happen. Good actor, very smart guy. And like the rest that look good, knows his way around the medicine cabinet.

Shit legs though.  

[DK II]

You end up having to settle on being moderately big but soft or ripped and small.

And both suck big time.

Bodybuilding is about being ripped and big.  

[dragonfist]

And both suck big time.

Bodybuilding is about being ripped and big.  

Tell me about it.  If you have decent genetics there's somewhat of a happy medium but it's always a juggling act.

[Meso_z]

"Patrick Bateman: I'm on a diet.
Jean: What, you're kidding, right? You look great... so fit... and thin.
Patrick Bateman: Well, you can always be thinner... look better.
Jean: Then maybe we shouldn't go out to dinner. I wouldn't want you to lose your willpower.
Patrick Bateman: That's okay. I'm not very good at controlling it anyway. "

[Meso_z]

"Timothy Bryce: [after snorting "cut" cocaine] It's a fucking milligram of sweetener. I want to get high off this, not sprinkle it on my fucking oatmeal.
Patrick Bateman: Definitely weak, but I have a feeling that if we do enough of it we'll be okay.
Club Patron: [leans over from another booth] Will you keep it down? I'm trying to do drugs!
Timothy Bryce: [speaks to the patron in the next booth] HEY, FUCK YOU! "

[Jaime]

You end up having to settle on being moderately big but soft or ripped and small.

 

[dragonfist]

 

You disagree?

[Jaime]

You disagree?

Yeah, depends what you call big though i guess.

[Krankenstein]

Thanks for the advice Alex.

 I wished I looked as good as you bro  
 
 Last night I fucked a woman my hand hard for 2 and a half hours. If I wasn't athletic I wouldn't be able to perform feats of endurance like that.

Corrected

[dragonfist]

Yeah, depends what you call big though i guess.

What do you consider to be big?

[DK II]

Yeah, depends what you call big though i guess.

150lbs seems to be pretty big around these parts when it comes to being natural....

[Griffith]

I'll start. (Yes I know this guy looks like a metrosexual cum guzzling fruitcake, but i'm just using this pic to prove a point) This is the kind of physique you can expect naturally.

 Any more mass and you'll get soft and bloofy.

 As a natural this is the kind of mass you can shoot for while still being cut.

 

If that guy went to the gym instead of focusing almost soley on diet for leaness he could be a lot bigger as a natural.
I'd bet all he does is cardio, like cycling or jogging and maybe 'core' exercises on the swiss ball and a few light weights to 'tone'.

His arms are very skinny, any natural who lifts weights for at least a year could have bigger arms.

Not saying it's a bad physique, he looks fit and in shape, but doesn't look like he lifts weights though.

[YngiweRhoads]

150lbs seems to be pretty big around these parts when it comes to being natural....

175lbs -180lbs at 5'8" - 5'9" with a low bf% is achievable.  150lbs is shit genetics.

[dragonfist]

150lbs seems to be pretty big around these parts when it comes to being natural....

People get far too caught up on numbers.  Stature and muscle shape can make two people at the same height and bodyfat look completely different.

[YngiweRhoads]

Stature and muscle shape can make two people at the same height and bodyfat look completely different.

Most definitely.

[DK II]

People get far too caught up on numbers.  Stature and muscle shape can make two people at the same height and bodyfat look completely different.

Not if you wear a t-shirt.


Naturals with a low bf disappear in clothes, i've not seen ONE impressive clothed natural in 10 years of lifting.

That's what was meant with the either small and cut or big and soft comment.

[dragonfist]

Not if you wear a t-shirt.


Naturals with a low bf disappear in clothes, i've not seen ONE impressive clothed natural in 10 years of lifting.

That's what was meant with the either small and cut or big and soft comment.

Pretty much no such thing as a lean natural looking big in a t-shirt but naturally wide shoulders can make a hell of a difference.

[DK II]

Pretty much no such thing as a lean natural looking big in a t-shirt but naturally wide shoulders can make a hell of a difference.

That's what i said.

besides, a natural will never have the traps and delts of a juicer, "naturally wide shoulders" or not.

And really, what's the fucking point in training when you have to run around naked so that anyone realizes anyways? LOL

[Jaime]

Not if you wear a t-shirt.


Naturals with a low bf disappear in clothes, i've not seen ONE impressive clothed natural in 10 years of lifting.

That's what was meant with the either small and cut or big and soft comment.

I have seen quite a few, skeletal structure and muscle shape makes a huge difference.

Nubret weighed about 200lb, you see a lot of 200lb gymrates that had his look?

[DK II]

I have seen quite a few, skeletal structure and muscle shape makes a huge difference.

Nubret weighed about 200lb, you see a lot of 200lb gymrates that had his look?

Are you telling me Serge Nubret was natural??


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Please shoot yourself now.