Author Topic: Seattle murder conviction tossed out over 'racist' comments  (Read 5897 times)

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Yep, because it prevented due process.  That's why district attorneys need to go by the book.

You would have them usurp justice and for what?

A matter of "just us".  FTN.

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The man is on tape killing someone - but according to racist blacks - a white DA making what is arguably a racist statement is worse than a fellow black getting murdered.


Sad but true.   

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June 11, 2011 
Politically Correct Washington Supreme Court Overturns Murder Conviction
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In 2007, Kevin L. Monday Jr. was convicted for the murder of Francisco Green and received 64 years in prison.  The incident was caught on a 3-minute video recording shot by a street performer, and the footage clearly shows Monday coolly and calculatingly firing 11 shots at Green on a crowded Seattle, Washington, street corner.  Thus, despite the reluctance of witnesses to testify, it was an open-and-shut case.

But now the Washington Supreme Court, in an 8-1 ruling, has overturned the conviction and a lower court that upheld it, claiming that the prosecutor used "racist" arguments.  What is the supposed problem?  While questioning witnesses, veteran King County deputy prosecutor James Konat cited a no-snitching street code in the black community and made references to the "PO-leese."  Writes Jennifer Sullivan of The Washington Times:

During the trial, Konat questioned witnesses, many of them black, about a purported street "code" that he claimed prevented some from talking to the police, according to the Supreme Court's majority opinion written by Justice Tom Chambers.  In questioning some witnesses, Konat made references to the "PO-leese," the justices found.

During his closing argument to jurors, Konat also said that while witnesses denied the presence of such a code, "the code is black folk don't testify against black folk.  You don't snitch to the police...."

Question: Can something be "racist" if it's true?  The street code in question isn't just "purported"; it is real.  And everyone, save the most sheltered and culturally naïve, knows of its existence.  But I guess that the truth, if dare uttered today, will set criminals free.

The lone dissenting justice, James M. Johnson, placed matters in perspective in his dissent, writing:

 [T]he majority misconstrues what the prosecutor said and does not consider the context of the statements, as our case law requires.  This is what [sic] prosecutor said:

[T]he only thing that can explain . . . why witness after witness. . .is called to this stand and flat out denies what cannot be denied on that video is the code.  And the code is black folk don't testify against black folk.  You don't snitch to police.

...The prosecutor's reference was made in the context of a month-long trial in which several witnesses recanted earlier statements made to police and expressed reluctance to testify. Indeed, the trial court noted, "[V]irtually every lay witness has been very reticent to testify in this case, and the memory of virtually every lay witness has had significant holes in places where one would not expect...."

Johnson also addresses the prosecutor's pronunciation of the word "police," writing:

The transcript has the prosecutor saying "po-leese" after the prosecutor had difficulty interacting with [witness] Ms. Sykes throughout her direct examination, and the prosecutor said "we'll use your term then" once before in an unfortunate effort to elicit Ms. Sykes' testimony. See VRP (May 22, 2007) at 14 (using the word "arguing" instead of "confrontation" in describing the surrounding events).

Johnson also points out that the justices in the majority have cast long-standing precedent to the winds:

[P]erhaps most vexing, the majority fails to honestly apply the holding of tried, tested, and controlling precedent.  Appellate courts do not assess "'[t]he prejudicial effect of a prosecutor's improper comments . . . by looking at the comments in isolation but by placing the remarks '"in the context of the total argument, the issues in the case, the evidence addressed in the argument, and the instructions given to the jury.''" State v. Yates....

The majority disregards the context of the total argument.  The majority does not look to the issues in the case.  The majority does not look to the evidence or to the instructions given to the jury.  The majority looks to several comments in isolation.

Let's be blunt: The majority has been brainwashed and is insane.  Like so many today, they have "racism" on the brain and will subordinate everything to it.

This brings us back to my earlier question: The Left does say that something can be "racist" even if it's true.  And it is yet another reason why the r-word has been rendered meaningless.  A prerequisite for "bigotry" or "prejudice" always was that a given belief must not only be negative, but also untrue.  But "racism" was originated by the Left; it is their word and they define it.  And in their relativistic fantasy-world -- in which their feelings have usurped morality's position as the yardstick for judging behavior - "racism's" dictates trump all: It matters not if something is true, only whether it's "racist."  This is why, in places such as Canada, we will hear nonsense about how the truth is no defense against a hate-speech charge.   

And this is why I avoid using the word "racism": The side that defines the vocabulary of a debate wins the debate.  Thus, when we use the Lexicon of the Left -- originated on university campuses and spread through the media -- we have fallen into a Newspeak trap.  The Right needs to watch its collective tongue and maintain the integrity of our language.  Why walk to the beat of the civilization destroyers' drummer?  If the left wants to manipulate the language, we should let them descend into a parallel universe of linguistic insanity without us.

As for the subordination of Truth to agendas, to do it is to confess error.  For a man who cannot stand on Truth is one who is standing behind a lie.  It is a compulsion born of a very dark spirit, indeed.
 




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According to the liberal left -  a white person using an arguably racist term is worse than a black person killing a fellow black person in cold blood.


   

Reeves

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The man is on tape killing someone - but according to racist blacks - a white DA making what is arguably a racist statement is worse than a fellow black getting murdered.


Sad but true.   

If a statement is true, how does that make it "racist"?  It does not.  Keep in mind I am referring to the DA in this instance.  So then...

The fault lies in a culture (ghetto) not befitting the human race.  No one is holding black people down, because some of them want nothing more than to be "down" with their shitty "culture" and that is what holds them back.  Not "whitey".

My parents did not raise a fool.  Perhaps that is because they took an active part in raising me.


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A minor epiphany has revealed to me the truth of the ghetto mindset -

"He ain't guilty.  He's my brotha!"

Say it with me - Fuck That Noise.

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A minor epiphany has revealed to me the truth of the ghetto mindset -

"He ain't guilty.  He's my brotha!"

Say it with me - Fuck That Noise.


I think they realize he is guilty but still don't care so long as the DA gets called out.   

So when this murderer is let out on the street again, kills their family members, I wonder who they are going to try to blame then.   

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I think they realize he is guilty but still don't care so long as the DA gets called out.   

So when this murderer is let out on the street again, kills their family members, I wonder who they are going to try to blame then.   

Prob the same person you blame for everything, Obama
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Prob the same person you blame for everything, Obama



Obama makes Carter look like George Washington. 

Never in my lifetime have we have a more economically illiterate, ignorant, inept, and ideologically driven clueless POTUS in office. 

Were he named Barry O'Malley, a white pol from Boston, Mass, he would never have been elected with his record, or lack thereof. 

Obama is the text book example that affirmative action has no place for positions in high places.  The mail room, door man, bathroom attendant, and greeters' position maybe, but definately not POTUS. 

Thankfully he is gone in another year or so.  He took a bad situation and made it monumentally worse with his far left whacked out policies.       
 



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Chimps will aways be chimps. The biggest mistake Europeans ever made was buying blacks from black slave traders and bringing them over with them to wherever they colonized. For these blacks it was the equivalent of winning the lottery. It's not like things were that great had they stayed in Africa and been slaves to a black master.

Now these descendants of slaves can drive cars, buy big screen tv's, have sex with mudsharks. Yeah, it's turned out REAL bad for them.

And what about the west? The west is falling because of the third world people that are now a part of it. I guarantee you if Europe and America was 99% white we would not be having these kind of problems. Heck we would have already been on Mars by now.

Watch Vince's response in the "white man's" language. Vince, don't you have a language of your own that you could use?

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Wow. Another post about Blacks from the resident racist. What a surprise.  ::)

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Wow. Another post about Blacks from the resident racist. What a surprise.  ::)

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so your admitting your a racist?


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so your admitting your a racist?



Did you read the story? 

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Not familiar with Washington State criminal law, but assuming this goes higher, it will be reversed. I can produce tons of evidence as to the truth of the Prosecutors statements merely by doing a google search.

The "stop snitching" campaign is a nationwide plague of the black community.

Truth aside, to successfully argue that the prosecutor prejudiced the jury when the jury saw the defendant commit the murders on video tape is absurd.

The guy who committed the murders is on tape. The only evidence that could possibly be as damning is DNA. No shot in hell he gets released over what is percieved as "racism"--  especially when the defense attorney could have objected, the judge could have given a jury instruction or objected and the statements themselves spoke to the reluctance of witnesses who had formely been cooperative to testify. That said, the justices who voted to overturn this decision should have their law licenses revoked.


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Wow. Another post about Blacks from the resident racist. What a surprise.  ::)
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With 57,000+ posts and growing. 95% fueled by his race-based mental illness and Obama derangement syndrome. PEA BRAIN spends all day every day here posting in his miserable little hovel in the Yonkers, NY ghetto. Even a beautiful weekend in NYC can't get him to leave mom's basement and do something with his life.

What a sad, fat little masturbating turd.
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With 57,000+ posts and growing. 95% fueled by his race-based mental illness and Obama derangement syndrome. PEA BRAIN spends all day every day here posting in his miserable little hovel in the Yonkers, NY ghetto. Even a beautiful weekend in NYC can't get him to leave mom's basement and do something with his life.

What a sad, fat little masturbating turd.



Its raining here in NYC today and 70 degress moron. 


BTW - how that hope and change working out for you moron? 


 

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With 57,000+ posts and growing. 95% fueled by his race-based mental illness and Obama derangement syndrome. PEA BRAIN spends all day every day here posting in his miserable little hovel in the Yonkers, NY ghetto. Even a beautiful weekend in NYC can't get him to leave mom's basement and do something with his life.

What a sad, fat little masturbating turd.

Well, well...If it isn't our own CN.   Allow me to coloquialize it for you, ace.

'Sup mah convenient niggah?

Now that I've dispensed with that, riddle me this buttman.  Justice or Just Us?  Of course a black racist such as yourself must take the latter. 

I could not help but notice, as did all other sentient beings, that you and Vincente' failed to address my words.  Too many words, too many syllables in those words,  too much intelligence and not enough Urbane Dictionary?  I have never seen such a small mind in such a large head.  In the event you missed it, I received yet another claim from someone on here that you're not fit to fuck pigs and once again, I stuck up for you and said you were.

And do.  As before, how goes the swine fucking you Michael X wannabe?  Run out of pigs or are the still outrunning you?  Fuck off and live, assclown.  What are you, the first in your family to lose the prehensile (that means you can move it and pick shit up with it) tail?  And what?  You imagine this gives you license to post your black racist thoughts?  Fuck your noise, asspuppet.

Oh, perhaps you don't know what an asspuppet is?  I rank you right down there with Bay and tbombz.  Your loving mASSeur shoves his hand up your fat ass and you and he play ventriloquist.  FTN, buckwheat.

Later, queeeeeer. I've got work to do.  You know, work.  Something people get paid for?

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Chimps will aways be chimps. The biggest mistake Europeans ever made was buying blacks from black slave traders and bringing them over with them to wherever they colonized. For these blacks it was the equivalent of winning the lottery. It's not like things were that great had they stayed in Africa and been slaves to a black master.

Now these descendants of slaves can drive cars, buy big screen tv's, have sex with mudsharks. Yeah, it's turned out REAL bad for them.

And what about the west? The west is falling because of the third world people that are now a part of it. I guarantee you if Europe and America was 99% white we would not be having these kind of problems. Heck we would have already been on Mars by now.

Watch Vince's response in the "white man's" language. Vince, don't you have a language of your own that you could use?


Europe was 100% white for centuries and there were no problems if you don't count the Crusades, the Inquistion, the Blubonic Plaque, the witchcraft trials and burnings, William Wallace's quartering for simply wanting his Scottish people to be independent.....oh lets not forget all the slavery in Europe or I suppose you never heard of the term "serf".  They didn't call it "The Dark Ages" for nothing.

Please go read your history books because you don't even know anything about your own heritage.
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He was caught on film doing it.  
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Stupid thing for Konat to do and an 8-1 Supreme Court Ruling speaks volumes since that includes Republican appointed justices.  You can't prejudice the jury in any form or fashion in order to get a conviction and you certainly cannot attack defense witnesses accusing them of racial improperity...period.

Now he'll be set free and won't be tried again because of double jeopardy.  Konat didn't need to say that but he thought he could sneak it in to seal the deal.  Big mistake

Good post Vince

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Yeah, cause in USA 2011 and with Mr. Hope & Change in office, unless you are black, you have no right to EVER say a word, criticize, discuss, or comment on anything that possibly brings bad light on blacks. 

And how did the DA's statements prejudice anything?   The guy was caught on tape murdering someone and they never even disputed that.   

as usual you are going way overboard....it is not a black issue..its an issue of prosecutorial misconduct....this guy is a danger to have as a prosecutor.....because of him a dangerous man was set free......

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Wow. Another post about Blacks from the resident racist. What a surprise.  ::)

haha the resident GB liberal still suffering from "white guilt" throws in his 2cents! ;)

He could murder your wife and rob you and you'd prob think it somehow was your fault!  ;D

Only a liberal...

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haha the resident GB liberal still suffering from "white guilt" throws in his 2cents! ;)

He could murder your wife and rob you and you'd prob think it somehow was your fault!  ;D

Only a liberal...
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Its raining here in NYC today and 70 degress moron. 


BTW - how that hope and change working out for you moron? 

 
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What were you doing last weekend, PEA BRAIN? Or the weekend before that? Ahh...that's right, posting 100 plus times per day on getbig. Just as you do seven days per week.  ::)
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