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Re: Question to Coach
« Reply #25 on: June 13, 2011, 10:24:28 PM »
Yes..quit calling me liar and I'll tell you.

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Re: Question to Coach
« Reply #26 on: June 13, 2011, 10:34:51 PM »
Coach knows his shit. Oh, and for the real men there's good mornings.

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Re: Question to Coach
« Reply #27 on: June 13, 2011, 10:37:11 PM »
Coach knows his shit. Oh, and for the real men there's good mornings.

Good mornings are a muthah fuckah. Love um though.

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Re: Question to Coach
« Reply #28 on: June 13, 2011, 10:41:33 PM »
We do good mornings but most of the time we'll use a jump band.

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Re: Question to Coach
« Reply #29 on: June 13, 2011, 11:20:15 PM »
must have been some walk.

LMFAO.. don't be coy. This kind of injury from a mere walk is pretty pussy. I make an effort to be relatively athletic and functional but too little too late. I just tell people I wrestled a moose and lost my footing.

Yes..quit calling me liar and I'll tell you.

Never! This is the thunderdome. I don't believe anything you say regarding drugs nor find any similarities in our political alignment. However you've proven to be a serious ass trainer of real athletes. I'll keep these advices in mind. You have lucky trainees. 8)

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Re: Question to Coach
« Reply #30 on: June 13, 2011, 11:23:09 PM »
Thank you. Obama still sucks tho :)

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Re: Question to Coach
« Reply #31 on: June 14, 2011, 08:50:04 AM »
Liar Coach has what looks to be like some of the best athletic advices. My hams could use some work as well.

Last winter I walked around a frozen lake a pinched a nerve in my lower back because of my weak hams and freezing weather. I train them but not as well as I could.

Anymore advices?

LMFAO

sorry coach :D

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Re: Question to Coach
« Reply #32 on: June 14, 2011, 08:52:50 AM »
Coach knows his shit. Oh, and for the real men there's good mornings.

He is one of the few guys I would ask for a training "program"

bodybuilders don't know shit about physiology

if I hurt myself I wouldn't ask a bodybuilder how to train around the injury haha

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Re: Question to Coach
« Reply #33 on: June 14, 2011, 08:53:56 AM »
LMFAO.. don't be coy. This kind of injury from a mere walk is pretty pussy. I make an effort to be relatively athletic and functional but too little too late. I just tell people I wrestled a moose and lost my footing.

Never! This is the thunderdome. I don't believe anything you say regarding drugs nor find any similarities in our political alignment. However you've proven to be a serious ass trainer of real athletes. I'll keep these advices in mind. You have lucky trainees. 8)

hahaha I am dying here  ;D

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Re: Question to Coach
« Reply #34 on: June 14, 2011, 09:12:55 AM »
Work your hams before your quads too. 

1.  Standing leg curls.
2.  Laying leg curls.
3.  Stiff-legged DLs.

Then start your quad workout.  A lot of the time when you hit quads first, your hams get a little stress, and ultimately, by the time you start direct work on them, they're already too tired out.

This applies to those of you who hit quads/hams on the same day.

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Re: Question to Coach
« Reply #35 on: June 14, 2011, 09:19:34 AM »
Work your hams before your quads too. 

1.  Standing leg curls.
2.  Laying leg curls.
3.  Stiff-legged DLs.

Then start your quad workout.  A lot of the time when you hit quads first, your hams get a little stress, and ultimately, by the time you start direct work on them, they're already too tired out.

This applies to those of you who hit quads/hams on the same day.

Except for the SLDL's you have all machine work. Again, machines that isolate on a functional scale of 1-10 are about a 2 at best. 

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« Reply #36 on: June 14, 2011, 09:33:08 AM »
Except for the SLDL's you have all machine work. Again, machines that isolate on a functional scale of 1-10 are about a 2 at best. 

do you think you can get great ham developement doing only stiff leg deads ??

or leg curls are a must ?


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Re: Question to Coach
« Reply #37 on: June 14, 2011, 09:39:00 AM »
do you think you can get great ham developement doing only stiff leg deads ??

or leg curls are a must ?



No, not for hypertrophy. But aesthetics leg curls are a must (for bodybuilding purposes)

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Re: Question to Coach
« Reply #38 on: June 14, 2011, 09:42:02 AM »
BTW, that was a great question that I'm adding to my blog site.

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Re: Question to Coach
« Reply #39 on: June 14, 2011, 10:49:12 AM »
Except for the SLDL's you have all machine work. Again, machines that isolate on a functional scale of 1-10 are about a 2 at best.  

What other exercises are you recommending then?  For the standard bodybuilder, these are the exercises to do.  I've always done these three with great results.  I find machines nice because you can isolate, and do supersets ..  also can modify the speed of your rep nicely.
My 2 cents is that there is absolutely nothing wrong with machines for hams.

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« Reply #40 on: June 14, 2011, 11:20:04 AM »
What other exercises are you recommending then?  For the standard bodybuilder, these are the exercises to do.  I've always done these three with great results.  I find machines nice because you can isolate, and do supersets ..  also can modify the speed of your rep nicely.
My 2 cents is that there is absolutely nothing wrong with machines for hams.

tell that to my hams  :(

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Re: Question to Coach
« Reply #41 on: June 14, 2011, 11:23:01 AM »
so what are you guys doing for hams these days?

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Re: Question to Coach
« Reply #42 on: June 14, 2011, 11:23:44 AM »
I think I misunderstood what you wrote. My apologies. For bodybuilding purposes yes, of course those would be included but for general back, knee and hip health machines have very little if any use.

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Re: Question to Coach
« Reply #43 on: June 14, 2011, 11:31:15 AM »
Gotcha.

I do notice my lower back acts up a little on the laying leg curl machine.


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Re: Question to Coach
« Reply #44 on: June 14, 2011, 11:53:50 AM »
That's probably just because you're a pussy. :)
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Re: Question to Coach
« Reply #45 on: June 14, 2011, 12:11:32 PM »
That's probably just because you're a pussy. :)

Yes.

Old school dudes at the gym always told me when I was young that pain is weakness  8)

"If it hurts, train it harder" LOL  Sum' real males with low estrogen levels right there.

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Re: Question to Coach
« Reply #46 on: June 14, 2011, 01:08:08 PM »
Let's see your hamstrings stud.

I agree with the douches here, SLDL on a platform.

My hamstrings are Asbrusian, watch yourself Chaos.

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Re: Question to Coach
« Reply #47 on: June 14, 2011, 03:56:26 PM »
It should be done for what ever training you do. For example, most people believe that if you have a weak or pain in the lower lumbar area it must be the erectors or SI area but rather its usual cause could be weak transverse abdominus or a weak inactivated psoas (a stabilizers) when you strengthen those two or even just the psoas the reduction of injury reduces and stability increases.

What about the iliacus?

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Re: Question to Coach
« Reply #48 on: June 14, 2011, 04:12:58 PM »
No, not for hypertrophy. But aesthetics leg curls are a must (for bodybuilding purposes)

What do you mean aesthetics?  Are you saying leg curls give some sort of "shape" to the hamstring?

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Re: Question to Coach
« Reply #49 on: June 14, 2011, 04:23:22 PM »
How about squatting deeper?

Deep squats are great for hams.