Massive G: Internet Guru Who Actually Gets You HUGE

[Moen]

Always chose to be on the side of being just slightly flat. I don't even like to use the word flat, but I will in this instance for lack of a better term. When you are on stage and shredded with the right amount of water in your muscles you will look big and full and never flat, but I guarantee you that if you are just slightly spilled over you will look fat on stage under those lights. I'll also guarantee that you will look freaky under the fluorescent bath room lights of your hotel room all carbed up and this is where a lot of guys make their biggest mistake.

What do you think of the Mike Mentzer-protocol, basically the opposite of carb loading? Diet down to shredded on carbs while staying full and then do one day (the day before contest) of no carbs to drop some carb bloat while keeping (probably most of) the fullness.

To me it makes much more sense than to diet for weeks on no carbs, become flat and then trying to rectify it all in one day by overloading the carbs.

[Van_Bilderass]

the worst one of the bunch is the lightheavyweight dude with the biggest ego ever... a black guy

don't remember his handle

he keeps saying he is the thickest and strongest and blablabla on praticaly no sauce, but has a banner of GEARdepot in everyone of his post haha

what's the fuckers name... can't remember it

b-boy?

That dude did a complete 180 recently. Yes he was the worst of the bunch, but now... a fan of gh15, quoting his posts etc 
You can see how this pissed off a number of guys there, while most were applauding.

http://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/professional-muscle-forum/74035-some-thoughts.html

[Rearden Metal]

I understand your position.
Thanks, but you don't need to PM. I'm not interested in PM secrets, I'll leave that BS to that Intensemuscle crew. Not that I would betray confidences but I'd like to know if someone can tell publically they know this dude and/or can tell he recommends/uses/used much more than he lets on on the boards. I've gotten some unsolicited PMs about various gurus including this one but that shit is useless since these guys don't want to get involved publically so the BS never gets exposed.

My problem with him and Dante is that they call me an anonymous troll, and imply I'm somehow involved in this "gh15 gimmick" and/or know who it is with zero proof. I may be a lot of things but even being anonymous I don't lie... which I told them. Prove I lie and I'm gone from all the bodybuilding boards and won't be back under another handle.

Ok fine. Since I respect you a ton more than Massive G, I'll disclose the contents of his advice.

First, we spoke via IM and email a number of times. At the time, although I had competed and won or placed well as a middleweight on smallish stacks and had 4-5 years of gear experience, he seemed to me very knowledgeable about the In's and Out's of BB at the upper levels. Mostly, his status as Mod led me to believe he had some of Teh Chad's knowledge and I wanted to learn it.

Anyway, my cycles prior were very simple- Usually 500-750mg of some test, 500 mg of an anabolic and 30 mg dbol, usually. Even for contest all I really did was switch dbol for winstrol. Basically cycles well under 2g's a week were normal for me.

The protocol he sent me made my head spin. It was this:

2000mg test sustanon/week
1000 mg deca/week
700mg tren ace/week
100mg dbol/day
150mg anadrol/day
6iu gh/day
can't remember igf-1 dose.
no insulin.

Obviously, this was overkill on the AAS and underkill on the GH. Now, I realize he was giving me HIS stack, or something like it.

I ran in for 4 weeks, gained about 15 lbs of edema weight, then had stomach issues. I quit it and took a lengthy break before going back to a more sane cycle.

Oh, and BTW Palumbo's cycle (also cookie cutter) was less than half of the above.

[wes]

That`s a ridiculous amount of juice............GEEZUS!!

[Jadeveon Clowney]

Massiv eGG

[Disgusted]

For some reason I can not quote anyone so to Moen, yes that is a good way to do things. I have done things in a similar way and I have also done it with no carbs but carbed up earlier in the week and cut them out couple of days before and dropped water this way, but stayed really full.

[Disgusted]

To Reardon, personally I would have upped your dosages 10 to 15% percent and gone from there. As far as what this idiot had you do, well I can honestly say this. There is a guy I used to train who some of you guys like to rip on, I can tell you that his dosages never even came close to 5400 mgs a week. What surprises me more than anything is how this clown hides behind posting shit like how to take creatine and Vitamin D and how drugs are not the answer and then calling guys like me a Van druggies.

[nosleep]

b-boy?

That dude did a complete 180 recently. Yes he was the worst of the bunch, but now... a fan of gh15, quoting his posts etc 
You can see how this pissed off a number of guys there, while most were applauding.

http://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/professional-muscle-forum/74035-some-thoughts.html

READING THROUGH HIS POSTS HE USE TO ALWAYS SAY STUFF LIKE THANK GOD FOR MY MOM AND DAD, ETC. THEN HE PUTS UP A CYCLE OF A COMPETITOR TYPE FROM GEORGE FARAH. AND THAT SHITS LIKE 3-3.5 GRAMS OF AAS + GH.

SAFE TO SAY THEY ARE ALL FUCKIN LIARS AND THAT DRUGS ARE REALLY THE TICKET. EVERYONES JUST BULLSHITTIN US TO BE HONEST.

[nosleep]

Ok fine. Since I respect you a ton more than Massive G, I'll disclose the contents of his advice.

First, we spoke via IM and email a number of times. At the time, although I had competed and won or placed well as a middleweight on smallish stacks and had 4-5 years of gear experience, he seemed to me very knowledgeable about the In's and Out's of BB at the upper levels. Mostly, his status as Mod led me to believe he had some of Teh Chad's knowledge and I wanted to learn it.

Anyway, my cycles prior were very simple- Usually 500-750mg of some test, 500 mg of an anabolic and 30 mg dbol, usually. Even for contest all I really did was switch dbol for winstrol. Basically cycles well under 2g's a week were normal for me.

The protocol he sent me made my head spin. It was this:

2000mg test sustanon/week
1000 mg deca/week
700mg tren ace/week
100mg dbol/day
150mg anadrol/day
6iu gh/day
can't remember igf-1 dose.
no insulin.

Obviously, this was overkill on the AAS and underkill on the GH. Now, I realize he was giving me HIS stack, or something like it.

I ran in for 4 weeks, gained about 15 lbs of edema weight, then had stomach issues. I quit it and took a lengthy break before going back to a more sane cycle.

Oh, and BTW Palumbo's cycle (also cookie cutter) was less than half of the above.

LOLOL. THANKS FOR POSTING THIS BRO CAUSE I WAS ALWAYS CURIOUS. THE DUDE IS ALL DRUGS. ALL DRUGS. TAKE AWAY THE DRUGS AND HE CANNOT CONSUME THE FOOD HE APPARENTLY POUNDS. IF HE CANNOT EAT THAT FOOD, HE CANNOT BE AS BIG.

[225for70]

There was the great thread on Getbig about massive G about 3-4 years ago...A poster here claimed to have beat the shit out of him in the gym...He supposedly bitch slapped him in he gym , and all this good stuff..But sadly the thread was erased a few hours later,..

[wes]

There was the great thread on Getbig about massive G about 3-4 years ago...A poster here claimed to have beat the shit out of him in the gym...He supposedly bitch slapped him in he gym , and all this good stuff..But sadly the thread was erased a few hours later,..

......and you believe this as gospel?

C`mon bro,this is getbig where fiction and fantasy abound.

[buselmo]

It was very obvious he referred to you without actually saying it point blank. He's a bitch ass coward. I don't know if you are or know who gh15 is (very much doubt the former) but he showed no proof. Strong accusations like that require proof; like you said especially considering the subject matter in gh15's posts.

It would be very strange if you were gh15 considering how gh15 has been on your former client's ass recently... Coach "The Twister".  

I'm pretty sure it's a pic that's been posted here before. Upper body, sideways arm bent showing a big hairy fat ass?

These health promoters are now dealing with side effects of their healthy bodybuilding, eating blood pressure meds, reducing their body weights despite not wanting to, just so they wont keel over, needing life long HRT therapy etc. 

And look at the Skiploader. Imagine the amount of gear you have shoot to build that amount scar tissue and lumps on your ass and delts.

But no, it's Buselmo, Disgusted, myself and a few others who are the "all drugs" guys, the ones who recommend drug abuse. What a joke. 

religion of peace 

LOOOOL
seriously though... I'm not one to start shit... but pay these guys money to "train" you, and you'll get the same doses they preach on the boards.... except you multiply them by 3 to 5

[Rearden Metal]

To Reardon, personally I would have upped your dosages 10 to 15% percent and gone from there. As far as what this idiot had you do, well I can honestly say this. There is a guy I used to train who some of you guys like to rip on, I can tell you that his dosages never even came close to 5400 mgs a week. What surprises me more than anything is how this clown hides behind posting shit like how to take creatine and Vitamin D and how drugs are not the answer and then calling guys like me a Van druggies.

It didn't surprise me that the cycle was what it was... Meaning that some people were taking that much without being pro's. What surprised me was that I was 178 lbs at the start (very lean) and THAT is what he gave me. No way that's what I needed to grow at that size and primed state.

[Stavios]

It didn't surprise me that the cycle was what it was... Meaning that some people were taking that much without being pro's. What surprised me was that I was 178 lbs at the start (very lean) and THAT is what he gave me. No way that's what I needed to grow at that size and primed state.

Exactly...

YOU NEEDED EVEN MORE!!
DOUBLE THAT !

Stavios approved 

[WillGrant]

Ok fine. Since I respect you a ton more than Massive G, I'll disclose the contents of his advice.

First, we spoke via IM and email a number of times. At the time, although I had competed and won or placed well as a middleweight on smallish stacks and had 4-5 years of gear experience, he seemed to me very knowledgeable about the In's and Out's of BB at the upper levels. Mostly, his status as Mod led me to believe he had some of Teh Chad's knowledge and I wanted to learn it.

Anyway, my cycles prior were very simple- Usually 500-750mg of some test, 500 mg of an anabolic and 30 mg dbol, usually. Even for contest all I really did was switch dbol for winstrol. Basically cycles well under 2g's a week were normal for me.

The protocol he sent me made my head spin. It was this:

2000mg test sustanon/week
1000 mg deca/week
700mg tren ace/week
100mg dbol/day
150mg anadrol/day
6iu gh/day
can't remember igf-1 dose.
no insulin.

Obviously, this was overkill on the AAS and underkill on the GH. Now, I realize he was giving me HIS stack, or something like it.

I ran in for 4 weeks, gained about 15 lbs of edema weight, then had stomach issues. I quit it and took a lengthy break before going back to a more sane cycle.

Oh, and BTW Palumbo's cycle (also cookie cutter) was less than half of the above.

More tren and drol needed there bro 

[Van_Bilderass]

Ok fine. Since I respect you a ton more than Massive G, I'll disclose the contents of his advice.

First, we spoke via IM and email a number of times. At the time, although I had competed and won or placed well as a middleweight on smallish stacks and had 4-5 years of gear experience, he seemed to me very knowledgeable about the In's and Out's of BB at the upper levels. Mostly, his status as Mod led me to believe he had some of Teh Chad's knowledge and I wanted to learn it.

Anyway, my cycles prior were very simple- Usually 500-750mg of some test, 500 mg of an anabolic and 30 mg dbol, usually. Even for contest all I really did was switch dbol for winstrol. Basically cycles well under 2g's a week were normal for me.

The protocol he sent me made my head spin. It was this:

2000mg test sustanon/week
1000 mg deca/week
700mg tren ace/week
100mg dbol/day
150mg anadrol/day
6iu gh/day
can't remember igf-1 dose.
no insulin.

Obviously, this was overkill on the AAS and underkill on the GH. Now, I realize he was giving me HIS stack, or something like it.

I ran in for 4 weeks, gained about 15 lbs of edema weight, then had stomach issues. I quit it and took a lengthy break before going back to a more sane cycle.

Oh, and BTW Palumbo's cycle (also cookie cutter) was less than half of the above.

LOL this is insane. If this is true, and I have no reason to doubt you, then... well, I don't know what to say really.  

And this guy has the gall to post shit like in this thread, criticizing Brewer for taking too much, too soon, all the while having prescribed suicide stacks (slight exaggeration but clearly total overkill in your case... and as said, even gh15 would agree) to clients:
http://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/professional-muscle-forum/74594-trey-brewer-latest-pictures-2.html

God only knows how much he himself pumped into his body.

You're a "real" person with pics, which adds credibility to this story, Rearden, so thanks for exposing the truth. I knew MG was full of shit but this was worse than I thought.

pay these guys money to "train" you, and you'll get the same doses they preach on the boards.... except you multiply them by 3 to 5

I just don't understand it. How do these guys' brains work? It's not just a little lie here and there but this overzealous preaching of lies and getting pissed off when someone dares to question their lies. Bodybuilding for sure contains the worst pathological liars in society.

[Rearden Metal]

LOL this is insane. If this is true, and I have no reason to doubt you, then... well, I don't know what to say really.  

And this guy has the gall to post shit like in this thread, criticizing Brewer for taking too much, too soon, all the while having prescribed suicide stacks (slight exaggeration but clearly total overkill in your case... and as said, even gh15 would agree) to clients:
http://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/professional-muscle-forum/74594-trey-brewer-latest-pictures-2.html

God only knows how much he himself pumped into his body.

You're a "real" person with pics, which adds credibility to this story, Rearden, so thanks for exposing the truth. I knew MG was full of shit but this was worse than I thought.

I just don't understand it. How do these guys' brains work? It's not just a little lie here and there but this overzealous preaching of lies and getting pissed off when someone dares to question their lies. Bodybuilding for sure contains the worst pathological liars in society.

I've never lied about my use. Always been forthcoming. I even had a thread up when I was clean for 18 months and I think I looked pretty good clean too.

BTW, I'm currently 208 lbs at 9% and I'm using 300mg test, 300mg NPP, 300mg masteron, 900mg EQ and 10iu GH. Right around 2g total plus gh and I'm bigger and leaner than I've been since I rebounded after competing. Doing the higher doses of orals and test never resulted in huge growth for me, but 10iu gh/day and sane anabolic choices resulted in visible improvements by the day.

[b-boy]

the worst one of the bunch is the lightheavyweight dude with the biggest ego ever... a black guy

don't remember his handle

he keeps saying he is the thickest and strongest and blablabla on praticaly no sauce, but has a banner of GEARdepot in everyone of his post haha

what's the fuckers name... can't remember it

LOL that would be me....... hi hater!

[b-boy]

b-boy?

That dude did a complete 180 recently. Yes he was the worst of the bunch, but now... a fan of gh15, quoting his posts etc 
You can see how this pissed off a number of guys there, while most were applauding.

http://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/professional-muscle-forum/74035-some-thoughts.html

everyone walks around in the dark for a while before finally finding the light!

whats up bro?  you confuse me with the different handle here.  LOL

[Disgusted]

LOL this is insane. If this is true, and I have no reason to doubt you, then... well, I don't know what to say really.  

And this guy has the gall to post shit like in this thread, criticizing Brewer for taking too much, too soon, all the while having prescribed suicide stacks (slight exaggeration but clearly total overkill in your case... and as said, even gh15 would agree) to clients:
http://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/professional-muscle-forum/74594-trey-brewer-latest-pictures-2.html

God only knows how much he himself pumped into his body.

You're a "real" person with pics, which adds credibility to this story, Rearden, so thanks for exposing the truth. I knew MG was full of shit but this was worse than I thought.

I just don't understand it. How do these guys' brains work? It's not just a little lie here and there but this overzealous preaching of lies and getting pissed off when someone dares to question their lies. Bodybuilding for sure contains the worst pathological liars in society.

I totally 100% convinced that he purposely lies just to people on the boards just because he gets a kick out of seeing how many people will listen to him, I'm being serious. Then him and his buddies probably laugh their asses off about it later and to give Reardon that cycle is another joke. He was totally experimenting on the kid just to see what would happen at dosages he probable would not use himself. I am willing to bet if someone called him on the carpet about that cycle he would deny it to the end.

[Rearden Metal]

I totally 100% convinced that he purposely lies just to people on the boards just because he gets a kick out of seeing how many people will listen to him, I'm being serious. Then him and his buddies probably laugh their asses off about it later and to give Reardon that cycle is another joke. He was totally experimenting on the kid just to see what would happen at dosages he probable would not use himself. I am willing to bet if someone called him on the carpet about that cycle he would deny it to the end.

Probably. The thing is is that he was very likeable when we chatted and intelligent enough for me to believe that he had the inner circle info on guys who are heavyweights and pro's who were coming up.

4 weeks on the cycle and I knew it was bullshit. Although I did see benefits of the gh that I ran for a month or two after (and really liked the igf but never tried it again).

He gave me a cycle for a 240lb guy who wanted to be 260lbs. That's basically it. And he messed up, because the gh shoulda been 15iu, not 6.

[Disgusted]

Probably. The thing is is that he was very likeable when we chatted and intelligent enough for me to believe that he had the inner circle info on guys who are heavyweights and pro's who were coming up.

4 weeks on the cycle and I knew it was bullshit. Although I did see benefits of the gh that I ran for a month or two after (and really liked the igf but never tried it again).

He gave me a cycle for a 240lb guy who wanted to be 260lbs. That's basically it. And he messed up, because the gh shoulda been 15iu, not 6.

Everything that you just said especially about the drug use is spot on. He likes to pretend he works with top guys, but I would bet money he never has. I have worked with top guys before and I have never worked with anyone who has used 5400 mgs a week. As far as GH goes, unless you can afford to use at least 10 ius daily then don't bother. That's not written in stone, maybe 8 is OK but not much less, 5 would give you some fat loss but I personally do not think that the cost to fatloss ratio is worth it.

[Rearden Metal]

Everything that you just said especially about the drug use is spot on. He likes to pretend he works with top guys, but I would bet money he never has. I have worked with top guys before and I have never worked with anyone who has used 5400 mgs a week. As far as GH goes, unless you can afford to use at least 10 ius daily then don't bother. That's not written in stone, maybe 8 is OK but not much less, 5 would give you some fat loss but I personally do not think that the cost to fatloss ratio is worth it.

The difference between 4iu and 10iu is VAST. At 4iu, I had no noticeable weight gain, but my skin looked better and my nails grew fast. Some carpal tunnel so I knew it was working at least. At 10iu, I grew 8 lbs in a week while maintaining my condition, then in the next week started eating tons of junky food so I wouldn't disappear while maintaining a 24/7 pump and veins like a cock popping up everywhere. This weekend I ate Wendy's, Ice Cream, a large pizza, box of oreos, BBQ chicken with pasta salad, eggs with sausage, about 10 muscle milks, beef jerky, pretzels and 3-4 banana's, yogurt.... All in 2 days. Woke up this AM exactly the same weight as on Friday AM in the same condition.

gh is insane.

[Rearden Metal]

The difference between 4iu and 10iu is VAST. At 4iu, I had no noticeable weight gain, but my skin looked better and my nails grew fast. Some carpal tunnel so I knew it was working at least. At 10iu, I grew 8 lbs in a week while maintaining my condition, then in the next week started eating tons of junky food so I wouldn't disappear while maintaining a 24/7 pump and veins like a cock popping up everywhere. This weekend I ate Wendy's, Ice Cream, a large pizza, box of oreos, BBQ chicken with pasta salad, eggs with sausage, about 10 muscle milks, beef jerky, pretzels and 3-4 banana's, yogurt.... All in 2 days. Woke up this AM exactly the same weight as on Friday AM in the same condition.

gh is insane.

Forgot the Subway footlong and two large Starbucks Frappacino's. Oh, and I took a break from training too.

[225for70]

......and you believe this as gospel?

C`mon bro,this is getbig where fiction and fantasy abound.

That's why i said claimed Wes..

It was a Funny thread..It disappeared for reasons unknown..Perhaps Massive G complained to Ron?