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Anadrol with Dbol
« on: July 03, 2011, 04:52:13 PM »
Hey guys, has any of you run this combo alone, as in nothing else (Anadrol with Dbol)?
I was wondering what getbiggers think of this combo, two schools of thought exist, one believes it's an extremely toxic combo, the other think it's the best oral combo.

I've got 4 weeks to grow only, just doing orals. Will have nolva ready if Gyno decides to flare.

Ideas, protocols and experiences are all welcome.

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Re: Anadrol with Dbol
« Reply #1 on: July 03, 2011, 06:27:59 PM »
why just not take injectibles and save your liver a bit


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Re: Anadrol with Dbol
« Reply #2 on: July 03, 2011, 07:02:27 PM »
what's the use of a 4 week cycle anyways??

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Re: Anadrol with Dbol
« Reply #3 on: July 03, 2011, 07:14:44 PM »
Hey guys, has any of you run this combo alone, as in nothing else (Anadrol with Dbol)?
I was wondering what getbiggers think of this combo, two schools of thought exist, one believes it's an extremely toxic combo, the other think it's the best oral combo.

I've got 4 weeks to grow only, just doing orals. Will have nolva ready if Gyno decides to flare.

Ideas, protocols and experiences are all welcome.
Both schools are correct  :D

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Re: Anadrol with Dbol
« Reply #4 on: July 03, 2011, 08:58:15 PM »
what's the use of a 4 week cycle anyways??

why just not take injectibles and save your liver a bit



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Re: Anadrol with Dbol
« Reply #5 on: July 03, 2011, 09:39:50 PM »
Thats an oldschool combo anapolon+dbol.

Go for it.

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Re: Anadrol with Dbol
« Reply #6 on: July 04, 2011, 03:17:03 AM »
Four weeks is all I got, no time for injections.

So none of you hunks have done this  :(

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Re: Anadrol with Dbol
« Reply #7 on: July 04, 2011, 09:27:26 AM »
Been on anadrol for a while now at 100mg a day. Yesterday I was throwing up violently all day long and my stomach was destroyed! I did eat some shady food so I think it was food poisoning 90 percnt sure, but there is still a small birdie in my mind telling me it was from the anadrol. ??? God was a terrible feeling I literally lost over nearly five pounds yesterday. I looked at all the sides from anadrol nausea, chills, diarrhea and vomiting and that's exactly what I had. Too bad food poisonigis the exact same symtoms ::)

Well anyways I'll try taking another few tabs in a few days  to see if it really was just food poisoning which I hope was the case :D. I respond so well to anadrol it would suck if I couldnt take it because of my health. :-[...Scary stuff for sure though.

I dont give a fuck what gh15 says HUMAN GRADE anadrol is no joke fellas and needs to be treated with caution. be smart anadrol with dbol is just asking for trouble. And all that ugl shit is garbage.

200mg ugl drol=50 mg turkish anapolon (if that)
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Re: Anadrol with Dbol
« Reply #8 on: July 04, 2011, 03:05:59 PM »
My friend got me these, keep in mind steroids are legal here, so all I had to do is ask out loud for "options"

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flinstones1, thanks for the feedback, get well soon. My worst enemy in bodybuilding after injuries is food poisoning.

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Re: Anadrol with Dbol
« Reply #9 on: July 04, 2011, 03:36:31 PM »
started anadrol+superdrol together today, 20mg sdrol in the am, 100mg abombs in the pm, this should pump shit up

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Re: Anadrol with Dbol
« Reply #10 on: July 04, 2011, 08:54:43 PM »
My friend got me these, keep in mind steroids are legal here, so all I had to do is ask out loud for "options"

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flinstones1, thanks for the feedback, get well soon. My worst enemy in bodybuilding after injuries is food poisoning.

i used both of them and i like them a lot...good stuff!!!the drol especially which im still using :) :) :) :) :) :)

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Re: Anadrol with Dbol
« Reply #11 on: July 04, 2011, 09:10:08 PM »
started anadrol+superdrol together today, 20mg sdrol in the am, 100mg abombs in the pm, this should pump shit up
Do you get mean lower back pumps on gear ? if so that stacks gona be fun  :D

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Re: Anadrol with Dbol
« Reply #12 on: July 04, 2011, 09:33:41 PM »
i used both of them and i like them a lot...good stuff!!!the drol especially which im still using :) :) :) :) :) :)

Ive used LA Anadrol also, good stuff
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Re: Anadrol with Dbol
« Reply #13 on: July 04, 2011, 11:31:16 PM »
The Great Oral Debate: Anadrol vs. Dianabol
By Gavin Kane

For many years, a great debate has raged over which oral is superior for mass gains, and two of them have stood the test of time; dianabol and anadrol. The debate has continued, arguing which of the two is superior, yet no conclusive evidence has proven one better than the other. People respond to each one differently, some swearing by dbol and some swearing by anadrol. Before we declare one the winner, I am going to go over a bit of history and chemical structure on both products.

anadrol (oxymetholone) was first made available in the 1960’s by Syntex. It is very effective at increasing red blood cell production and was promising for treating severe cases of anemia. With the advent of newer and more advanced drugs such as Erythropoietin, which have less androgenic side effects, anadrol was discontinued. New studies in AIDS/HIV patients revealed anadrol was particularly effective at reducing wasting symptoms so it was re-released in the late 1990’s.

Oxymetholone is a derivative of dihydrotestosterone, which in theory means it should not convert to estrogen. Since it does not aromatize but still causes gynecomastia in some users, there are other pathways by which it converts. After looking at studies on AIDS patients, I found that it may convert by actively activating the estrogen receptor, so this is a product that would need an anti-estrogen such as Nolvadex.

dianabol (methandrostenolone) was first made in 1956 by John Zieglar of Ciba fame. dianabol has been one of the most por oral steroids of all time, exploding in pority in the 1970’s with bodybuilders and football players and expanding into all avenues of athletics during the 1980’s. It somewhat waned during the 1990’s with the steroid control act, but was hot again in the early 2000’s with reproduction in mass quantities by Mexican labs and underground labs.
Methandrostenolone is a derivative of testosterone and hence will convert to estrogen. gynecomastia will be a concern for sure, in almost all users, whereas only less than 25% have problems with anadrol. Again water retention will be a problem, usually due to the estrogenic properties.

Both products will have similar androgenic side effects, which include; acne, water retention, oily skin, male pattern baldness, and increased body hair growth. Both drugs are c17 alpha alkylated, therefore Liver protection will be necessary, especially when combining the two.

So we come to the premise of this article, anadrol vs. dianabol. Why, the great debate over which product to take? They work on different pathways, have similar side effects you will have to combat, and both are Liver toxic. So why is there a debate over which is better and which one should you take? Well, as I stated earlier, different people have different responses to each product. Many people, including myself, find high doses of anadrol to be too much to handle in trade of the results you get. With this product, I have an extreme loss of appetite, massive water retention, and overall aches and pains and headaches.

On the other hand, when I take dianabol, I get a general sense of well-being, good but not great size gains, and the ability to keep eating. It sounds like I should keep taking dianabol and drop the anadrol, right? Wrong. I get massive male pattern baldness from dianabol, which I do not experience from anadrol. I have an increase in blood pressure levels at doses that are high enough to match my gains from anadrol, and I have to shorten my cycles because of the massive dosages I take to get good gains. So in all, I get some side effects from each that I would like to avoid, while still retaining the great benefits that I can only get from each product.

anadrol is well known for its ability to cause massive size and strength increases, and as we all know, a stronger muscle has to become a bigger muscle with enough calories to feed it. dianabol gives me large, quality muscle gains without as much water retention as anadrol. So what is the compromise? Do I take one during one cycle and then the other product during my next cycle?

The answer is no to both. There is no need to short change yourself gains in either department when you can have your Cake and eat it too. I am not alone in my assessments of both products. Most guys have similar issues of massive water retention, headaches and loss of appetite with anadrol, and MPB and fewer gains with dianabol comparatively. So, the best thing we can do is decrease our dosages of both products to cut down on side-effects and take them at the same time to increase the benefits.

My recommendation is to take both products in lower dosages but for longer periods of time. dianabol has been found to work much better for quality gains when taken in lower dosages but for longer periods of time. High doses have severe side effects in some users, a loss of all gains with cessation of the product because of the short cycle (4-6 weeks) and most of the aforementioned side-effects.

Your dosages will be cycle history dependent but when I was at the peak of my career, I was taking cycles of 200mg dianabol for 6 weeks per cycle, or 250-300mg anadrol per 6 week cycle. In later cycles when I decided to combine the two products together, I was able to drop my dianabol use to 50mg per day, and my anadrol use to 100mg per day and because of the synergistic effect of the two products combined, the effect was similar to high doses of each but with none of the sides. There is something very synergistic when taking these two products together with just a simple cycle of testosterone and deca-durabolin.

I would run my anadrol cycles for 8 weeks at that dose and my dianabol cycles for 10 weeks at that low dose with no Liver toxic effects as proven by my quarterly blood tests. I did not have to take liver protectants, but I recommend them for most users. I no longer had to watch my blood pressure, my water retention was minimal compared to earlier cycles, and I was able to continue eating massive amounts of food because I did not experience appetite loss from a massive dose of anadrol.

I highly recommend on your next bulking cycle you try the following: A base cycle of test and deca, add in the anadrol and dianabol mix, and some Nolvadex. You will be able to control your water retention, Liver toxicity, and other side effects by controlling your dosages. Your doses will vary from mine, but just adjust accordingly and run them for longer periods of time. You will be amazed at the simplicity of this cycle and yet the synergy is un-describable. Your gains will be far better than you have ever had when taking each product alone, your side effects will be less than if you were to take either product in higher doses, thanks to the different biochemical pathways. Everyone already knows that test and anadrol, and deca and dbol are very synergistic. Now combine all four in a cycle and watch yourself just blow up.


I wouldnt take the article to serious but figured you might wanna see it

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Re: Anadrol with Dbol
« Reply #14 on: July 05, 2011, 06:05:37 AM »
The Great Oral Debate: Anadrol vs. Dianabol
By Gavin Kane

For many years, a great debate has raged over which oral is superior for mass gains, and two of them have stood the test of time; dianabol and anadrol. The debate has continued, arguing which of the two is superior, yet no conclusive evidence has proven one better than the other. People respond to each one differently, some swearing by dbol and some swearing by anadrol. Before we declare one the winner, I am going to go over a bit of history and chemical structure on both products.

anadrol (oxymetholone) was first made available in the 1960’s by Syntex. It is very effective at increasing red blood cell production and was promising for treating severe cases of anemia. With the advent of newer and more advanced drugs such as Erythropoietin, which have less androgenic side effects, anadrol was discontinued. New studies in AIDS/HIV patients revealed anadrol was particularly effective at reducing wasting symptoms so it was re-released in the late 1990’s.

Oxymetholone is a derivative of dihydrotestosterone, which in theory means it should not convert to estrogen. Since it does not aromatize but still causes gynecomastia in some users, there are other pathways by which it converts. After looking at studies on AIDS patients, I found that it may convert by actively activating the estrogen receptor, so this is a product that would need an anti-estrogen such as Nolvadex.

dianabol (methandrostenolone) was first made in 1956 by John Zieglar of Ciba fame. dianabol has been one of the most por oral steroids of all time, exploding in pority in the 1970’s with bodybuilders and football players and expanding into all avenues of athletics during the 1980’s. It somewhat waned during the 1990’s with the steroid control act, but was hot again in the early 2000’s with reproduction in mass quantities by Mexican labs and underground labs.
Methandrostenolone is a derivative of testosterone and hence will convert to estrogen. gynecomastia will be a concern for sure, in almost all users, whereas only less than 25% have problems with anadrol. Again water retention will be a problem, usually due to the estrogenic properties.

Both products will have similar androgenic side effects, which include; acne, water retention, oily skin, male pattern baldness, and increased body hair growth. Both drugs are c17 alpha alkylated, therefore Liver protection will be necessary, especially when combining the two.

So we come to the premise of this article, anadrol vs. dianabol. Why, the great debate over which product to take? They work on different pathways, have similar side effects you will have to combat, and both are Liver toxic. So why is there a debate over which is better and which one should you take? Well, as I stated earlier, different people have different responses to each product. Many people, including myself, find high doses of anadrol to be too much to handle in trade of the results you get. With this product, I have an extreme loss of appetite, massive water retention, and overall aches and pains and headaches.

On the other hand, when I take dianabol, I get a general sense of well-being, good but not great size gains, and the ability to keep eating. It sounds like I should keep taking dianabol and drop the anadrol, right? Wrong. I get massive male pattern baldness from dianabol, which I do not experience from anadrol. I have an increase in blood pressure levels at doses that are high enough to match my gains from anadrol, and I have to shorten my cycles because of the massive dosages I take to get good gains. So in all, I get some side effects from each that I would like to avoid, while still retaining the great benefits that I can only get from each product.

anadrol is well known for its ability to cause massive size and strength increases, and as we all know, a stronger muscle has to become a bigger muscle with enough calories to feed it. dianabol gives me large, quality muscle gains without as much water retention as anadrol. So what is the compromise? Do I take one during one cycle and then the other product during my next cycle?

The answer is no to both. There is no need to short change yourself gains in either department when you can have your Cake and eat it too. I am not alone in my assessments of both products. Most guys have similar issues of massive water retention, headaches and loss of appetite with anadrol, and MPB and fewer gains with dianabol comparatively. So, the best thing we can do is decrease our dosages of both products to cut down on side-effects and take them at the same time to increase the benefits.

My recommendation is to take both products in lower dosages but for longer periods of time. dianabol has been found to work much better for quality gains when taken in lower dosages but for longer periods of time. High doses have severe side effects in some users, a loss of all gains with cessation of the product because of the short cycle (4-6 weeks) and most of the aforementioned side-effects.

Your dosages will be cycle history dependent but when I was at the peak of my career, I was taking cycles of 200mg dianabol for 6 weeks per cycle, or 250-300mg anadrol per 6 week cycle. In later cycles when I decided to combine the two products together, I was able to drop my dianabol use to 50mg per day, and my anadrol use to 100mg per day and because of the synergistic effect of the two products combined, the effect was similar to high doses of each but with none of the sides. There is something very synergistic when taking these two products together with just a simple cycle of testosterone and deca-durabolin.

I would run my anadrol cycles for 8 weeks at that dose and my dianabol cycles for 10 weeks at that low dose with no Liver toxic effects as proven by my quarterly blood tests. I did not have to take liver protectants, but I recommend them for most users. I no longer had to watch my blood pressure, my water retention was minimal compared to earlier cycles, and I was able to continue eating massive amounts of food because I did not experience appetite loss from a massive dose of anadrol.

I highly recommend on your next bulking cycle you try the following: A base cycle of test and deca, add in the anadrol and dianabol mix, and some Nolvadex. You will be able to control your water retention, Liver toxicity, and other side effects by controlling your dosages. Your doses will vary from mine, but just adjust accordingly and run them for longer periods of time. You will be amazed at the simplicity of this cycle and yet the synergy is un-describable. Your gains will be far better than you have ever had when taking each product alone, your side effects will be less than if you were to take either product in higher doses, thanks to the different biochemical pathways. Everyone already knows that test and anadrol, and deca and dbol are very synergistic. Now combine all four in a cycle and watch yourself just blow up.


I wouldnt take the article to serious but figured you might wanna see it

this article makes no sense at all  ;D

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Re: Anadrol with Dbol
« Reply #15 on: July 05, 2011, 09:21:23 AM »
Do you get mean lower back pumps on gear ? if so that stacks gona be fun  :D

only when i have to pick up something on the ground, like shoveling snow, after 1min its pumped up like balloons and hurt, but if im just walking I dont feel it

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Re: Anadrol with Dbol
« Reply #16 on: July 05, 2011, 09:27:50 AM »
Just started my first dose today, 30mgs dbol (10 after breakfast,10 before training and 10 at night) and 50mg (one tab) Anadrol after breakfast.

The pump is amazing, energy is out of this world. I've been clean for three years and boy do I miss this  ;D I don't expect much from this cycle, just want to shake things up.

chess315, thanks for the article.


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Re: Anadrol with Dbol
« Reply #17 on: July 05, 2011, 09:38:02 AM »
this article makes no sense at all  ;D
have you ever seen a bodybuidling related article that has lol

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Re: Anadrol with Dbol
« Reply #18 on: July 05, 2011, 10:52:41 AM »
this article makes no sense at all  ;D

Please go into detail why it makes no sense?

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Re: Anadrol with Dbol
« Reply #19 on: July 05, 2011, 06:00:05 PM »
Please go into detail why it makes no sense?

why? because he's just another idiot on so much stuff he has no idea what is working...like the majority of idiots on here running 6 compounds at once yeah real bright ::).

 I challenge anybody to take a few turkish anapolon for 6 weeks and tell me you need to add some dbol to it.  ::)
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Re: Anadrol with Dbol
« Reply #20 on: July 05, 2011, 07:29:30 PM »
why? because he's just another idiot on so much stuff he has no idea what is working...like the majority of idiots on here running 6 compounds at once yeah real bright ::).

 I challenge anybody to take a few turkish anapolon for 6 weeks and tell me you need to add some dbol to it.  ::)


Seriously bro, you need to get off your high horse. Stavios is probably top 3 as far as physiques go on this website. And so you know, I am on Anapolans presently and was stacking them with British Dispensary dbol. I quit that because the pump was to great for me. And your body DOES take on a different look when those two are combined versus using them as a stand alone. You stay tight from the drol and round out at the same time from the dbol.

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Re: Anadrol with Dbol
« Reply #21 on: July 05, 2011, 07:47:55 PM »

Seriously bro, you need to get off your high horse. Stavios is probably top 3 as far as physiques go on this website. And so you know, I am on Anapolans presently and was stacking them with British Dispensary dbol. I quit that because the pump was to great for me. And your body DOES take on a different look when those two are combined versus using them as a stand alone. You stay tight from the drol and round out at the same time from the dbol.

I dont think adding dbol will add any more muscle to your frame than 100-150mg anapolon at the same time honestly. True it may be a different "look" but who cares about that. All I care about  is will adding this drug add muscle mass to my frame faster than without it. If not, it is a waste of money.
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Re: Anadrol with Dbol
« Reply #22 on: July 05, 2011, 07:55:14 PM »
How can adding dbol to adrol not increase gains, wtf clearly it will increase gains, the question is it worth the side effects.

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Re: Anadrol with Dbol
« Reply #23 on: July 05, 2011, 08:05:27 PM »
How can adding dbol to adrol not increase gains, wtf clearly it will increase gains, the question is it worth the side effects.

your 2 for 2 bro. Why not learn how to fuckin read? Seriously there are some idiots on this sight wow!


Secondly, it will not increase gains. Studies show that 150mg anadrol is no more effective than 100mg so I dont think dbol will do anything to increase gains. Fucking bitch quit listening to gh15's mega dosing  bullshit and try it for yourself

super mega doses=no better than high doses. been there tried it and it's a waste of money. Ask other guys on here and most will tell you the same. The ones who dont are fucking lying and have shit genetics, and they justify they can still get huge one day once they use rediclous amounts of gear..huge insecurities on here. If you cant do it on high doses it aint gona happen at mega doses.
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Re: Anadrol with Dbol
« Reply #24 on: July 05, 2011, 08:41:25 PM »
super megadosing, 150 is not even a mega dose, why are you telling me to try it when you haven't, there's a guy here who has and he says it makes a difference, you are 0 for 100 as far as I'm concerned