Author Topic: Terminator 2: Judgment Day - 20 Years Old (Read 8886 times)

delta9mda · « **Reply #25 on:** July 05, 2011, 10:15:18 PM »

Quote from: kiwiol on July 05, 2011, 09:15:47 AM

T2 was to T1 what Aliens was to Alien - Jim Cameron took a great movie and made an even better sequel for it.

Hopefully, he'll do the same with Avatar.

Brad, good to see you appreciating T3, which is a great action flick by itself and only gets a bad rap because it's a sequel to the more popular T2.

wrong. T1 owns the shit out of all the other T movies. period end of story. no product placements or comedy lines. straight brutal science fiction.

DK II · « **Reply #26 on:** July 05, 2011, 10:20:28 PM »

am i the only one that enjoyed T4??

kiwiol · « **Reply #27 on:** July 05, 2011, 10:22:14 PM »

Quote from: delta9mda on July 05, 2011, 10:15:18 PM

wrong. T1 owns the shit out of all the other T movies. period end of story. no product placements or comedy lines. straight brutal science fiction.

Yeah, lots of people like the original Terminator more than the sequels, same as the crowd that likes Alien more than Aliens. Each to their own. I like T2 better than T1 better than T3. I also like T4.

Doug_Steele · « **Reply #28 on:** July 05, 2011, 10:27:03 PM »

Quote from: DK II on July 05, 2011, 10:20:28 PM

am i the only one that enjoyed T4??

Yep.

Quote from: kiwiol on July 05, 2011, 10:22:14 PM

Yeah, lots of people like the original Terminator more than the sequels, same as the crowd that likes Alien more than Aliens. Each to their own. I like T2 better than T1 better than T3. I also like T4.

I love the Friday the 13th series, but the best are 2,3 and 4.

kiwiol · « **Reply #29 on:** July 05, 2011, 10:32:32 PM »

Quote from: Doug_Steele on July 05, 2011, 10:27:03 PM

Yep.
I love the Friday the 13th series, but the best are 2,3 and 4.

I haven't seen the 3rd and the 4th one. I did see Freddy vs Jason and Jason X, which were OK for B-grade movies.

Have you seen the remake of the original that came out in 2009?

Doug_Steele · « **Reply #30 on:** July 05, 2011, 10:36:33 PM »

Quote from: kiwiol on July 05, 2011, 10:32:32 PM

I haven't seen the 3rd and the 4th one. I did see Freddy vs Jason and Jason X, which were OK for B-grade movies.

Have you seen the remake of the original that came out in 2009?

I have this sitting in my collection and i might stomp on it.

Well, you need to see #3 and #4 because you can see his face and how he got his mask.

Well, i am a dumbass and i pre-ordered it on Blu-Ray and paid $45 for it was god awful. I still watch it because i am a fan, but i feel that i was robbed.

It's ok though, because i am a Horror fan and always will be.

DK II · « **Reply #31 on:** July 05, 2011, 10:39:50 PM »

I think T2 was awful, it was like a kid's movie compared to the other parts.

Especially the "You can't go around and kill people" made the "TERMINATOR" idea ridiculous.

T3 was good and i liked T4 because it made the time shift, it would have been ridiculous to have "Arnold" come back AGAIN to kill John Connor.

Doug_Steele · « **Reply #32 on:** July 05, 2011, 10:42:31 PM »

Quote from: DK II on July 05, 2011, 10:39:50 PM

I think T2 was awful, it was like a kid's movie compared to the other parts.

Especially the "You can't go around and kill people" made the "TERMINATOR" idea ridiculous.

T3 was good and i liked T4 because it made the time shift, it would have been ridiculous to have "Arnold" come back AGAIN to kill John Connor.

Terminator is Arnold - Hope this helps. The only part that was good on T4: Salvation was the part where the CGI Arnold came out and beat the fuck out of Christian Bale (John Connor).

TrueGrit · « **Reply #33 on:** July 06, 2011, 02:55:05 AM »

T1 and T2 were great movies. Both original and ground breaking in their ways. T3 was fucking shit. That kid that played John Connor was a fucking insult and slap-in-the-face to movie-goers.

BILL ANVIL · « **Reply #34 on:** July 06, 2011, 03:22:31 PM »

Quote from: DK II on July 05, 2011, 10:39:50 PM

I think T2 was awful, it was like a kid's movie compared to the other parts.

Especially the "You can't go around and kill people" made the "TERMINATOR" idea ridiculous.

T3 was good and i liked T4 because it made the time shift, it would have been ridiculous to have "Arnold" come back AGAIN to kill John Connor.

If thats what you think, its a good thing your not a director because you really have no clue what a good movie is. But yeah to each his own I guess..

DK II · « **Reply #35 on:** July 06, 2011, 05:09:07 PM »

Quote from: BILL ANVIL on July 06, 2011, 03:22:31 PM

If thats what you think, its a good thing your not a director because you really have no clue what a good movie is. But yeah to each his own I guess..

LOL, whatever a director has to do with these things, wouldn't that be the producer or script writer deciding the stuff?

Besides, "a good movie" and "a movie that lots of people watch" are two totally different things. Deciding on the "TERMINATOR" to stop killing people to get that PG-13 rating plus some new special effects make not a good movie.

bradistani · « **Reply #36 on:** July 06, 2011, 05:22:16 PM »

Quote from: DK II on July 06, 2011, 05:09:07 PM

LOL, whatever a director has to do with these things, wouldn't that be the producer or script writer deciding the stuff?

Besides, "a good movie" and "a movie that lots of people watch" are two totally different things. Deciding on the "TERMINATOR" to stop killing people to get that PG-13 rating plus some new special effects make not a good movie.

agree with you more or less. how anyone can think t2 is better than t1, is beyond me

BILL ANVIL · « **Reply #37 on:** July 06, 2011, 05:25:45 PM »

Quote from: bradistani on July 06, 2011, 05:22:16 PM

agree with you more or less. how anyone can think t2 is better than t1, is beyond me

T1 was as raw as you can get, T2 was very watered down but whos to say a PG13 movie cant be a 3 star?

DK II · « **Reply #38 on:** July 06, 2011, 05:33:11 PM »

I see it like this, T2 was mainly to commercialize the Terminator. Cameron had the money now, he's a sucker for special effects and big movies.

T3 tried to take the Terminator back to his roots, more violence, overall darker movie, it makes T2 look like a family movie or almost comedic. The Terminator learning not to kill people and how to make jokes, taught to him by a 11 year old kid, GREAT idea.

T2 was all about the special effects, the "story" sucked big time.

SPOILER WARNING

What i liked about T3 was the plot twist at the end that they couldn't stop judgement day but were "tricked" by the Terminator into saving themselves, thus making the transition to the time after Judgement Day.

DK II · « **Reply #39 on:** July 06, 2011, 05:34:04 PM »

Quote from: BILL ANVIL on July 06, 2011, 05:25:45 PM

T1 was as raw as you can get, T2 was very watered down but whos to say a PG13 movie cant be a 3 star?

Nobody says that, T2 is still a better movie than many others, but compared to the other Terminator movies it's the weakest.

#1 Klaus fan · « **Reply #40 on:** July 06, 2011, 05:36:09 PM »

Quote from: BILL ANVIL on July 06, 2011, 05:25:45 PM

T1 was as raw as you can get, T2 was very watered down but whos to say a PG13 movie cant be a 3 star?

Oh yeah T2 is a good action flick no doubt, tier 2, but you just can't start comparing it to the 1st one.

BILL ANVIL · « **Reply #41 on:** July 06, 2011, 05:44:29 PM »

Quote from: DK II on July 06, 2011, 05:34:04 PM

Nobody says that, T2 is still a better movie than many others, but compared to the other Terminator movies it's the weakest.

Never said that T2 was better than the first, it was extremely well done but it aimed for a different audience than the 1st which was a real deal nitty gritty sci fi thriller. 3 and 4 were B grade flicks produced only to make lots of money for the franchise. I just dont know why people are saying T3 was even comparable to those, it was just horrible.

DK II · « **Reply #42 on:** July 06, 2011, 06:39:57 PM »

Quote from: BILL ANVIL on July 06, 2011, 05:44:29 PM

Never said that T2 was better than the first, it was extremely well done but it aimed for a different audience than the 1st which was a real deal nitty gritty sci fi thriller. 3 and 4 were B grade flicks produced only to make lots of money for the franchise. I just dont know why people are saying T3 was even comparable to those, it was just horrible.

what was so bad about T3?

Doug_Steele · « **Reply #43 on:** July 06, 2011, 07:00:54 PM »

Quote from: DK II on July 06, 2011, 06:39:57 PM

what was so bad about T3?

Cast and story.

BILL ANVIL · « **Reply #44 on:** July 06, 2011, 07:06:50 PM »

Quote from: DK II on July 06, 2011, 06:39:57 PM

what was so bad about T3?

It was very expensive and action packed, but it just lacked that unique style of directing and feel the first 2 had. Not to mention alot of the acting was cheesy and the character who played John Conner was a b grade actor who just didnt fit the part. The director creates the atmosphere in a movie, and the guy who did T3 just didnt have "it". T3 was plain jane with nothing memorable that stood out. There were parts in T1 +2 where I got goosbumps from the feeling of being in the movie, T3 was just missing something. It was void. And the female terminators acting was too pretentious, she seemed like she tried too hard to act cyborg just cheesy acting.

Big bucks put into it though, I guess to some people thats what makes a great movie... Not my cup of tea. Again to each his own.

Sherief Shalaby · « **Reply #45 on:** July 06, 2011, 11:23:03 PM »

Quote from: bradistani on July 05, 2011, 08:05:23 AM

well a couple of days back actually. but, blimey! where does all the time go, eh ?? i remember it like it was yesterday

yes the same (

) feeling came to me when reading the title of the thread before opening it!!.. 20 years have passed!!.. really?!!!!!!!.. yesterday we were kids and tomorrow we will be old,.. sad but that's life..

Sherief Shalaby · « **Reply #46 on:** July 06, 2011, 11:27:34 PM »

part 2 in general is always worse than part one but T2 was one of the exceptions!!.. i am not a big fan of arnold and his movies but this one (in its time) was a must seen by anyone!..

jedibrat · « **Reply #47 on:** July 07, 2011, 12:07:44 AM »

I wonder how many other people started lifting about 20 years ago and never realized the significance.

doriancutlerman · « **Reply #48 on:** July 07, 2011, 03:00:37 PM »

Quote from: DK II on July 05, 2011, 10:20:28 PM

am i the only one that enjoyed T4??

No, you're not. I actually think Salvation gets a bum rap. Sure, it's not "original" in as much as it's a sequel. But then, who expects a sequel to have an original premise?

I thought it was a positive addition to the franchise. T2 remains my favorite, but let's be real, here: it wasn't without its faults, either (that punk-ass Eddie Furlong kid as John Connor? At least the kid from Carnivale in T3 could act). T3 was basically a T2 retake. And amazing as the original is, it's corny as fuck, too

I know he catches shit for throat cancer Batman, but I think Bale's probably the greatest actor of the generation. He was good as "future" John Connor and that death row guy gave a good performance, too.

Kwon_2 · « **Reply #49 on:** July 07, 2011, 05:32:15 PM »

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