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« Reply #75 on: July 13, 2011, 03:52:22 PM »
BB - can you merge this into the main gunner thread?


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Get the leg irons ready - Holder is going to jail for perjury.
« Reply #76 on: October 03, 2011, 03:24:07 PM »
October 3, 2011 5:59 PM

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-31727_162-20115038-10391695.html




Fast and Furious: New documents show Attorney General Eric Holder was briefed in July 2010
By Sharyl Attkisson Topics News ,Law and Order .Add Comment


(Credit: AP Photo/Evan Vucci) WASHINGTON - New documents obtained by CBS News show Attorney General Eric Holder was sent briefings on the controversial Fast and Furious guns operation as far back as July of 2010. That directly contradicts his statement to Congress.


On May 3, 2011, Holder told a Judiciary Committee hearing, "I'm not sure of the exact date, but I probably heard about Fast and Furious for the first time over the last few weeks."


More of this report tonight on the CBS Evening News with Scott Pelley at 6:30 p.m. ET


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Re: Get the leg irons ready - Holder is going to jail for perjury.
« Reply #77 on: October 03, 2011, 05:41:12 PM »
[move][move]Lolzercopter[/move][/move]



His ass is 1) guilty and 2) sure as hell not going to jail.

If scooter libby gets pardoned or expunged or whatever he got - holder doesn't do a day in jail.


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« Reply #78 on: October 03, 2011, 06:47:10 PM »
[move][move]Lolzercopter[/move][/move]



His ass is 1) guilty and 2) sure as hell not going to jail.

If scooter libby gets pardoned or expunged or whatever he got - holder doesn't do a day in jail.



Do you think he wil resign over this? 

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Re: Get the leg irons ready - Holder is going to jail for perjury.
« Reply #79 on: October 03, 2011, 06:58:01 PM »
Do you think he wil resign over this? 

fck noooooooooooooooooooo

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Re: Get the leg irons ready - Holder is going to jail for perjury.
« Reply #80 on: October 03, 2011, 07:00:16 PM »
fck noooooooooooooooooooo

Bama is going to force him to resign.   The rate at which fast n furious is unfolding will cripple Bama next year.

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Re: Get the leg irons ready - Holder is going to jail for perjury.
« Reply #81 on: October 03, 2011, 07:00:40 PM »
Trouble.

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« Reply #82 on: October 03, 2011, 07:52:35 PM »
The rate at which fast n furious is unfolding will cripple Bama next year.

when does the trial start?  haha right.

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Re: Get the leg irons ready - Holder is going to jail for perjury.
« Reply #83 on: October 03, 2011, 07:53:25 PM »
I think he may be forced to resign, this shit is getting deeper and deeper.

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Re: Get the leg irons ready - Holder is going to jail for perjury.
« Reply #84 on: October 03, 2011, 07:56:30 PM »
when does the trial start?  haha right.
::)  ::)

Holder and Obama refuse to even inform the Mexican AG of what went on.   Why is that?   

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Re: Get the leg irons ready - Holder is going to jail for perjury.
« Reply #85 on: October 03, 2011, 08:02:16 PM »
I think he may be forced to resign, this shit is getting deeper and deeper.

Sure sounds that way. 

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« Reply #86 on: October 03, 2011, 08:19:01 PM »
::)  ::)

Holder and Obama refuse to even inform the Mexican AG of what went on.   Why is that?   


same reason bush and cheney refused to testify under oath, or seperately, or for any record.

they were full of shit, guilty as shit, and protecting thsemselves.

For the 900th time, they are both guiltayy as hell here.  And for the 900th time, they get away with it.  Welcome to "How shit works, USA".

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« Reply #87 on: October 03, 2011, 08:21:50 PM »
same reason bush and cheney refused to testify under oath, or seperately, or for any record.

they were full of shit, guilty as shit, and protecting thsemselves.

For the 900th time, they are both guiltayy as hell here.  And for the 900th time, they get away with it.  Welcome to "How shit works, USA".


This issue is growing by the day, and by next year, it's going to cripple Bama admn. 

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« Reply #88 on: October 03, 2011, 08:25:28 PM »
Reports: Documents show Holder was briefed on Fast and Furious in July 2010
By Matthew Boyle - The Daily Caller   6:49 PM 10/03/2011

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New documents indicate Attorney General Eric Holder was informed of Operation Fast and Furious and its investigative tactics in mid-2010.

The new documents show that on November 1, 2010, Deputy Attorney General Lanny Breuer, the chief of the Justice Department’s criminal division, personally informed Holder about the operation in a briefing. The document was a memo Breuer wrote to Holder saying in which he included a brief description of Operation Fast and Furious.

Another document is a July 2010 memo from the director of the National Drug Intelligence Center to Holder that details how “straw purchasers” — enabled by Operation Fast and Furious — were responsible for the purchase of 1,500 guns that were then supplied to Mexican drug cartels.

Straw purchasers are people who can legally buy weapons in the United States but do so with the known intention of trafficking them to Mexican drug cartels.

The Justice Department responded to this new information by saying that Holder receives many updates, memos and briefings daily and doesn’t always read them all — even if official records show he was informed of the intimate details of a case.

In early May, Holder told House oversight committee Chairman Rep. Darrell Issa that he was “not sure of the exact date [he first learned of Fast and Furious], but I probably heard about Fast and Furious over the last few weeks.”

These new documents indicate Holder may have committed perjury while testifying under oath, depending on the legal readings of his statements and all the evidence. It’s unclear at this point what, if anything, will happen next on that front.

Another document released contained internal emails between several high-ranking Justice Department officials asking if Breuer would help with a then-forthcoming press conference on Fast and Furious because the number of guns DOJ and ATF officials allowed to be “walked” into Mexico was significant. Allowing guns to “walk” means ATF and other law enforcement officials facilitated the sale of weapons to drug cartels via straw purchasers.

“It is not going to be any big surprise that a bunch of U.S. guns are being used in [Mexico], so I’m not sure how much grief we get for gun walking,” one high-ranking DOJ official wrote in an email.

That was in response to another high-ranking official who, after asking if they would have “Lanny” help with press, wrote: “It’s [Operation Fast and Furious] a tricky case, given the number of guns that have walked, but it is a significant set of prosecutions.”

*This story has been updated.

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Re: Get the leg irons ready - Holder is going to jail for perjury.
« Reply #89 on: October 03, 2011, 08:26:41 PM »

This issue is growing by the day, and by next year, it's going to cripple Bama admn. 

werent you saying 6 or 8 months ago, how big this would become?

I dont see it.  Americans DO NOT CARE about dead mexicans.  Remember?

they care about the US economy.  Hell, obaam probably WISHES this was on the headlines, and not the jobs numbers. 


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« Reply #90 on: October 03, 2011, 08:31:00 PM »
werent you saying 6 or 8 months ago, how big this would become?

I dont see it.  Americans DO NOT CARE about dead mexicans.  Remember?

they care about the US economy.  Hell, obaam probably WISHES this was on the headlines, and not the jobs numbers. 



This issue is growing by the day.   It's bigger than watergate and will force Bama to step down.

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Re: Get the leg irons ready - Holder is going to jail for perjury.
« Reply #91 on: October 03, 2011, 08:35:25 PM »
werent you saying 6 or 8 months ago, how big this would become?

I dont see it.  Americans DO NOT CARE about dead mexicans.  Remember?

they care about the US economy.  Hell, obaam probably WISHES this was on the headlines, and not the jobs numbers. 



Yeah, dude, totally! It only went from 333 posting about it on stories from non-MSM websites to CBS News and the like reporting on it daily. Yup, it's going nowhere. Retard.

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« Reply #92 on: October 03, 2011, 08:39:34 PM »
Yeah, dude, totally! It only went from 333 posting about it on stories from non-MSM websites to CBS News and the like reporting on it daily. Yup, it's going nowhere. Retard.

Do you believe a story being on CBS' website equates results?

CBS covered the 911 skeptics and the Qs about WMD and the Colts' playoff chances. 

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« Reply #93 on: October 03, 2011, 08:40:43 PM »
Do you believe a story being on CBS' website equates results?

CBS covered the 911 skeptics and the Qs about WMD and the Colts' playoff chances. 

You claimed it wasn't going anywhere months ago. Now CBS and other MSM organizations are reporting about it every single day. Swing and a miss, as per usual.

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« Reply #94 on: October 03, 2011, 08:42:14 PM »
Do you believe a story being on CBS' website equates results?

CBS covered the 911 skeptics and the Qs about WMD and the Colts' playoff chances. 

Whatever, keep talking about Christies weight, palins affairs, and perrys hunting rock.   All about the issues right.  

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« Reply #95 on: October 03, 2011, 08:42:40 PM »
Whatever, keep talking about Christies weight, palins affairs, and perrys hunting rock.   All about the issues right.  

He's about everything BUT the issues.

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« Reply #96 on: October 04, 2011, 05:27:02 AM »
This issue is growing by the day.   It's bigger than watergate and will force Bama to step down.

Delusions getting out of control today?

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« Reply #97 on: October 04, 2011, 05:31:13 AM »
Delusions getting out of control today?

Not at all.   This is scandal is the worst in WH history and bama will be forced to resign or not seek re-election probably on the condition he gets a pardon. 

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Gunwalker: Holder Appears To Be Fast, Furious, and Finished
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News documents indicate that U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder more than likely perjured himself in congressional testimony about Operation Fast and Furious earlier this year.

Sharyl Attkisson of CBS News and William LaJeunesse of Fox News have been the only mainstream media reporters diligently working on the most important scandal in White House history, and it is no surprise that they concurrently released information indicating that the attorney general, who claimed in direct testimony on May 3 of this year in front of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee that he first heard about Operation Fast and Furious “over the last few weeks,” had actually been briefed on the program in a memo by the director of the National Drug Intelligence Center almost a year earlier on July 5, 2010.

A copy of the heavily redacted weekly report posted by CBS News offers direct evidence that not only was the attorney general briefed on Operation Fast and Furious, but that he was briefed on it regularly and was well aware that the program was sending thousands of weapons into the hands of the Sinaloa cartel:

From July 12 through July 16, the National Drug Intelligence Center Document and Media Exploitation Team at the Phoenix Organized Crime Drug Enforcement Task Force (OCTDETF) Strike Force will support the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives’ Phoenix Field Division with its investigation of Manuel Celis-Acosta as part of OCDETF Operation Fast and Furious. This investigation, initiated in September 2009 in conjunction with the Drug Enforcement Administration, Immigration and Customs Enforcement, and the Phoenix Police Department, involves a Phoenix-based firearms trafficking ring headed by Manual Celis-Acosta. Celis-Acosta and [redacted] straw purchasers are responsible for the purchase of 1,500 firearms that were then supplied to Mexican drug trafficking cartels. They also have direct ties to the Sinaloa Cartel which is suspected of providing $1 million for the purchase of firearms in the greater Phoenix area.

That excerpt stated what the task force would do in the near future, while the same language was used later in the report to show what the task force had done that week:

From July 6 through July 9, the National Drug Intelligence Center Document and Media Exploitation Team at the Phoenix Organized Crime Drug Enforcement Task Force (OCTDETF) Strike Force will support the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives’ Phoenix Field Division with its investigation of Manuel Celis-Acosta as part of OCDETF Operation Fast and Furious. This investigation, initiated in September 2009 in conjunction with the Drug Enforcement Administration, Immigration and Customs Enforcement, and the Phoenix Police Department, involves a Phoenix-based firearms trafficking ring headed by Manual Celis-Acosta. Celis-Acosta and [redacted] straw purchasers are responsible for the purchase of 1,500 firearms that were then supplied to Mexican drug trafficking cartels. They also have direct ties to the Sinaloa Cartel which is suspected of providing $1 million for the purchase of firearms in the greater Phoenix area.

Attorney General Holder’s eventual criminal defense attorney is certain to state that the attorney general is provided with dozens of reports each week, and that is within the realm of reasonable doubt that he simply overlooked or did not remember the specifics of this memo.

Prosecutors would likely cast doubt on such a claim, citing the fact that the report was named Operation Fast and Furious, that it referred to the number of guns walked by the program at that time (1,500), and that it even noted how much they thought the Sinaloa cartel had budgeted for weapons ($1 million). They will then note that this information was cited twice in each weekly report for both current and future operations.

The prosecutors will more than likely be able to state with a great degree of certainly that Holder was provided this information in x number of weekly reports spanning y number of months in a report that only cites the most important National Drug Intelligence Center cases.

 

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« Reply #98 on: October 04, 2011, 05:50:00 AM »
Not at all.   This is scandal is the worst in WH history and bama will be forced to resign or not seek re-election probably on the condition he gets a pardon. 

Willing to wager on that?

Want to put something where your bullshit is?

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« Reply #99 on: October 04, 2011, 05:51:25 AM »
I agree this scandal is really bad and people should go down for it, possibly up to Obama, but for sure Holder.  I don't have much faith that will happen.  I also don't think it's the worst scandal either.  It's absurdly silly to suggest this is worse than the game of lies played by the Bush admin to get us into the Iraq war.