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Re: Who has made more advancements for mankind?
« Reply #25 on: July 18, 2011, 03:12:24 PM »
I didn't read the rest (I will later) but I just wanted to address this particular charge as it is so egregious. Activism? Manipulation of the media? Politcal power? That not genocide, my friend. Is Obama committing genocide by driving this economy into the ground? Given the choice of having media propaganda against you or have someone show up at your door and chop off your head with a machete which would you choose? Or would you just flip a coin? It's all genocide, eh?

But I'm glad you freely express your views. And I'm not being sarcastic. People need to hear this. That there exist people like you in the world. People, decent people, just refuse to believe that the radical Islamic fundamentalist want ever man, woman and child that is a Jew dead. Not just out of Israel but dead. They just refuse to believe people can be that ruthless. But when they hear someone like you, a seemingly decent civilized human being, speak the way you do. To give so much power to such a tiny minority, especially when we have a very real threat from the Muslim hordes that really want to commit genocide, it puts things in perspective.
 

Your response is simplistic. Hitler never physically killed a jew yet he is being held responsible for the attempted genocide of jews.

You don't have to wield a sword to commit genocide. Genocide can be committed by social engineering, economic warfare and political activism. In fact, these are much more effective and likely to succeed. Genocide by sword is easy to detect and people can plan accordingly. Genocide via social engineering is much more challenging.

By their deeds they shall be judged. Look at their deeds. Look at the anti-white policies jews have displayed over the years. They even express the genocide of whites in academics. This hatred towards whites goes far and reaches deep.

Noel Ignatiev
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Noel Ignatiev is an American history professor at the Massachusetts College of Art best known for his call to "abolish" the white race, which he defines as "white privilege and race identity." Ignatiev is the co-founder and co-editor of the journal Race Traitor and the New Abolitionist Society. He also has written a book on antebellum northern racism against Irish immigrants, How the Irish Became White. His publisher bills him as one of America's "most controversial" historians.[1]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noel_Ignatiev

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« Reply #26 on: July 18, 2011, 03:16:36 PM »
Your response is simplistic. Hitler never physically killed a jew yet he is being held responsible for the attempted genocide of jews.

You don't have to wield a sword to commit genocide. Genocide can be committed by social engineering, economic warfare and political activism. In fact, these are much more effective and likely to succeed. Genocide by sword is easy to detect and people can plan accordingly. Genocide via social engineering is much more challenging.

By their deeds they shall be judged. Look at their deeds. Look at the anti-white policies jews have displayed over the years. They even express the genocide of whites in academics. This hatred towards whites goes far and reaches deep.

Noel Ignatiev
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Noel Ignatiev is an American history professor at the Massachusetts College of Art best known for his call to "abolish" the white race, which he defines as "white privilege and race identity." Ignatiev is the co-founder and co-editor of the journal Race Traitor and the New Abolitionist Society. He also has written a book on antebellum northern racism against Irish immigrants, How the Irish Became White. His publisher bills him as one of America's "most controversial" historians.[1]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noel_Ignatiev
Where was it phrased that all jews must die? We don't want the jews dead. We want them to stop their hatred and discrimination of whites. By their deeds they shall be judged. They need to recognize their sins and realize every man is created equal. Their sins are great. They are threatening the existence of every culture in Europe.

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Re: Who has made more advancements for mankind?
« Reply #27 on: July 18, 2011, 09:06:00 PM »
Where was it phrased that all jews must die? We don't want the jews dead. We want them to stop their hatred and discrimination of whites. By their deeds they shall be judged. They need to recognize their sins and realize every man is created equal. Their sins are great. They are threatening the existence of every culture in Europe.

Given the choice, the only choice, for you and your family to live: Syria, Jordan, Iran, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Lebanon or Israel which would you choose?

Who is a bigger threat to European culture: the Muslim fundamentalist or the Jews?

"Genocide by sword is easy to detect and people can plan accordingly. Genocide via social engineering is much more challenging." Of course it is. Because with social engineering you can interpretate it any way you want. McDonald's is accused of causing obesity and death in our culture. Are they committing genocide? Please give one, just one example, of genocide via social engineering, media, politics....

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Re: Who has made more advancements for mankind?
« Reply #28 on: July 19, 2011, 02:07:21 PM »
The conservative religious right?

                  OR

The liberal scientific left?

Discuss
  The second. Conservatives want to keep things how they are- not change them- thats why they are CONSERVatives  lol.

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« Reply #29 on: July 19, 2011, 05:39:15 PM »
  The second. Conservatives want to keep things how they are- not change them- thats why they are CONSERVatives  lol.

Are you that simple minded? Where are all the new ideas coming from? Vouchers, flat tax, privatizing part of social security, shutting down useless government department like the National Endowment for Arts, Dept. of Education...,

In case you didn't know, there is a fight right now to implement a Balance Budget Amendment.

LOL? I don't think so. Try again but think first. I thought you were smarter than this.

 

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« Reply #30 on: July 19, 2011, 07:23:04 PM »
The thought of "privatizing" social security should make any sane person cringe.

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Re: Who has made more advancements for mankind?
« Reply #31 on: July 19, 2011, 07:45:25 PM »
The thought of "privatizing" social security should make any sane person cringe.

The thought of trusting your money with the government should make any sane person cringe. If I took all the money that the gov has confiscated for SS over the years and just added to the investments I have already made I could retire today on easy street.

But to me the larger question is whose money is it? If you trust the government to take your money and "invest" it that is fine with me. We insane people should have a choice to keep our own money and invest it as we see fit.

BTW, there is no SS trust fund.

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« Reply #32 on: July 20, 2011, 10:00:13 AM »
Given the choice, the only choice, for you and your family to live: Syria, Jordan, Iran, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Lebanon or Israel which would you choose?

Who is a bigger threat to European culture: the Muslim fundamentalist or the Jews?

"Genocide by sword is easy to detect and people can plan accordingly. Genocide via social engineering is much more challenging." Of course it is. Because with social engineering you can interpretate it any way you want. McDonald's is accused of causing obesity and death in our culture. Are they committing genocide? Please give one, just one example, of genocide via social engineering, media, politics....
Jews are the biggest threat to European culture. It's their immigration policies that have flooded all white countries with non-whites. The muslims are the mere symptom of what the jews are creating. They are the bigger enemy. Once whites are a small minority then jews will be the least of their worries. But for now jews should be the main concern and we can still stop their evil agenda.

You want examples of genocide? How about unchecked third world immigration into white countries and having the white citizens subsidize their living and education??



How many whites do you count in the heart of London in this video? 5%?

THAT MY FRIEND IS GENOCIDE. You do understand the concept don't you? Once there are no more whites or they have been transformed into a mongrel race they are gone.

I suppose your simple brain can't wrap the concept though. You are of the neanderthal variety that assume the only way to commit genocide is with a machete going on a murderous rampage. The most dangerous and effective form of Genocide is the modern social engineering method adopted by jewish interests.

Japan has around 128 million people. They are 98.5% Japanese. Sure there are some “guest workers”. But when they get shipped out there is little dissent from the international community. If a white country closes the border they scream bloody murder.

Just because liberal think tank puts up a website saying Japan should let in Non Japanese. That doesn’t mean Japan will do so. They are hardly facing pressure.

There is a big difference between a few Korean workers being allowed to live in certain buildings in Tokyo. And what you will read below happening in California. Again this type of “forced integration” is for all White countries and ONLY White Countries.

Obama administration: California’s whitest county MUST BE FORCIBLY INTEGRATED.
http://cofcc.org/2011/03/obama-administration-californias-whitest-must-be-forcibly-integrated/

Non White countries do routinely have guest workers and such. However, they do so at their own leisure. No White Country has ever been allowed a vote on this subject.

By the way, China has tried to force immigration (and integration of groups like Tibetan Nomads) into Tibet. This has routinely been labeled Ethnic Cleansing and Genocide by the UN. You will never hear a peep about the above clear and consistent Targeting of White Children.

forced immigration into white countries and only white countries (anywhere else is labeled genocide)

forced integration into white countries and only white countries (anywhere else is labeled genocide)

then they push interracial relationships in white countries and only white countries …….hmmmmm….there is a pattern emerging here

then they promote a Brown future for ALL White Countries…hmmmm

…….SURE is difficult to see how the word Genocide applies here

Antiwhite:”there are no such thing as white children”
ProWhite:”Of course not! In your visions of the future, you have killed them all”.

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Re: Who has made more advancements for mankind?
« Reply #33 on: July 20, 2011, 12:10:16 PM »
Red Holocaust
Whites were the victims of the World's biggest Genocide ever known.

60 million that died in the Red Holocaust of the Jew Marxist Murderers, 1917-1987

http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/NOTE4.HTM


White Girl dying in concentration Gulag camp during Red Holocaust, 1930's USSR.


White Children dead on the concentration camp ground at one of the Holomodor region camps, Red Holocaust Red Holocaust, 1930's USSR.


A White dying in the Jewish USSR Gulag concentration camps.


Gulag camp fence.


White children in Death Camp of 1930's Jewish USSR.

Whites were put in 1930's concentration camps by the Jews of the USSR


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Re: Who has made more advancements for mankind?
« Reply #34 on: July 20, 2011, 02:13:12 PM »
Your response is simplistic. Hitler never physically killed a jew yet he is being held responsible for the attempted genocide of jews.

You don't have to wield a sword to commit genocide. Genocide can be committed by social engineering, economic warfare and political activism. In fact, these are much more effective and likely to succeed. Genocide by sword is easy to detect and people can plan accordingly. Genocide via social engineering is much more challenging.

By their deeds they shall be judged. Look at their deeds. Look at the anti-white policies jews have displayed over the years. They even express the genocide of whites in academics. This hatred towards whites goes far and reaches deep.

Noel Ignatiev
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Noel Ignatiev is an American history professor at the Massachusetts College of Art best known for his call to "abolish" the white race, which he defines as "white privilege and race identity." Ignatiev is the co-founder and co-editor of the journal Race Traitor and the New Abolitionist Society. He also has written a book on antebellum northern racism against Irish immigrants, How the Irish Became White. His publisher bills him as one of America's "most controversial" historians.[1]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noel_Ignatiev
You brought conspiracy theory to a whole new levels, Jews hate white? America, british and Israel are best friends, good luck trying to pitch that propaganda. you're argument is based on 1 man

Jews have contribute the most, this doesn't even qualify as an argument

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Re: Who has made more advancements for mankind?
« Reply #35 on: July 20, 2011, 03:03:27 PM »
You brought conspiracy theory to a whole new levels, Jews hate white? America, british and Israel are best friends, good luck trying to pitch that propaganda. you're argument is based on 1 man

Jews have contribute the most, this doesn't even qualify as an argument

Sometimes in discussions such as these the issue is not right or wrong or trying to convince the other to your view point. For me, in cases like these, it is clarity. To be absolutely crystal clear where both parties stand and for others to hear it. This quadzilla fella is willing to hold nothing back. He is willing to speak clearly and openly his views, which are held by many. This is a great opportunity to get it all out. Any questions or clarifications one may have can be addressed.
 

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Re: Who has made more advancements for mankind?
« Reply #36 on: July 20, 2011, 03:47:07 PM »
Are you that simple minded? Where are all the new ideas coming from? Vouchers, flat tax, privatizing part of social security, shutting down useless government department like the National Endowment for Arts, Dept. of Education...,

In case you didn't know, there is a fight right now to implement a Balance Budget Amendment.

LOL? I don't think so. Try again but think first. I thought you were smarter than this.

 
It was a JOKE. You have heard of humor??  By the way, I heard all of those ideas in the 80's.

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« Reply #37 on: July 20, 2011, 04:30:35 PM »
You brought conspiracy theory to a whole new levels, Jews hate white? America, british and Israel are best friends, good luck trying to pitch that propaganda. you're argument is based on 1 man

Jews have contribute the most, this doesn't even qualify as an argument
They are best friends precisely because of jews in Britain and America. Ever heard of AIPAC? You need to do more research you have no clue what you are talking about.



My argument is based on what is happening in all white countries. It is not a conspiracy that whites in Europe and America are poised to become minorities in the span of less than a hundred years. Europe was an extreme white majority for over 3000 years. What changed? Jews had a major influence in the immigration policies of these countries in the past 100 years.

Didn't Britain add 500,000 non-white immigrants into their country last year while simultaneously losing white citizens? Why is Japan not allowing 500,000 non whites into their country?

I can give you multiple examples of jews expressing hatred towards whites. Their is obviously a pattern. And through their liberal views even jews who do not consciously hate whites have a negative impact on the well being of whites.

BTW, jews do not identify with white europeans. They identify with their jewish tribe.

Lastly, jews have not contributed the most - white europeans have - by a mile. Under their (jewish) watch the USA has reached the point of possible default. In less than 100 years. There is a reason Andrew Jackson did not want them to have banking interests in the US. Too bad for everyone that they eventually succeeded and failed spectacularly!

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Re: Who has made more advancements for mankind?
« Reply #38 on: July 20, 2011, 05:45:57 PM »
They are best friends precisely because of jews in Britain and America. Ever heard of AIPAC? You need to do more research you have no clue what you are talking about.



My argument is based on what is happening in all white countries. It is not a conspiracy that whites in Europe and America are poised to become minorities in the span of less than a hundred years. Europe was an extreme white majority for over 3000 years. What changed? Jews had a major influence in the immigration policies of these countries in the past 100 years.

Didn't Britain add 500,000 non-white immigrants into their country last year while simultaneously losing white citizens? Why is Japan not allowing 500,000 non whites into their country?I can give you multiple examples of jews expressing hatred towards whites. Their is obviously a pattern. And through their liberal views even jews who do not consciously hate whites have a negative impact on the well being of whites.

BTW, jews do not identify with white europeans. They identify with their jewish tribe.

Lastly, jews have not contributed the most - white europeans have - by a mile. Under their (jewish) watch the USA has reached the point of possible default. In less than 100 years. There is a reason Andrew Jackson did not want them to have banking interests in the US. Too bad for everyone that they eventually succeeded and failed spectacularly!
Isn't it obvious that most white people are content where they live, so why move to Britain. In contrast most nonwhite (especially from third world countries or places where the laws are still in savage) are looking to move out the first chance they get, Britain being a wise choice. Certainly not for the reasons you mention. lol at Japan not letting half mil of whites in there country, not so sure there are half million whites that actually want to live there,,,white man throwing 2 nukes at their cities has nothing to do with it? ::) Do you think Muslim countries would let white man live there? obviously not.....let me guess this is the Jews fault too right?

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« Reply #39 on: July 20, 2011, 08:31:08 PM »
Isn't it obvious that most white people are content where they live, so why move to Britain. In contrast most nonwhite (especially from third world countries or places where the laws are still in savage) are looking to move out the first chance they get, Britain being a wise choice. Certainly not for the reasons you mention. lol at Japan not letting half mil of whites in there country, not so sure there are half million whites that actually want to live there,,,white man throwing 2 nukes at their cities has nothing to do with it? ::) Do you think Muslim countries would let white man live there? obviously not.....let me guess this is the Jews fault too right?
I said NON-WHITES are not immigrating to Japan. Of course this destination would be a lot better for NON-WHITES than the third world hell holes they live in. The reason they are not is because the immigration floodgates have not opened. At least the Japanese politicians are not the full blown whores you find in the western world.

White people don't have a desire to move to Muslim countries - that is why they are not going there. Why are you bringing the jews into the picture - oh I see, so you can frame your argument that jews have played no role in massive third world immigration to white countries.

Only problem is jews themselves are actually talking about the prominent role they are playing. And you are the moron that is trying to say they are not.

Jews played a very important role in changing the immigration laws in the US in the 60s. Prior to this the majority of immigrants that came to America were white Europeans. Perhaps you should go read up about it.

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Re: Who has made more advancements for mankind?
« Reply #40 on: July 20, 2011, 10:23:39 PM »
It was a JOKE. You have heard of humor??  By the way, I heard all of those ideas in the 80's.

Oh. Nevermind.

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« Reply #41 on: July 20, 2011, 10:28:28 PM »
I said NON-WHITES are not immigrating to Japan. Of course this destination would be a lot better for NON-WHITES than the third world hell holes they live in. The reason they are not is because the immigration floodgates have not opened. At least the Japanese politicians are not the full blown whores you find in the western world.

White people don't have a desire to move to Muslim countries - that is why they are not going there. Why are you bringing the jews into the picture - oh I see, so you can frame your argument that jews have played no role in massive third world immigration to white countries.

Only problem is jews themselves are actually talking about the prominent role they are playing. Jews played a very important role in changing the immigration laws in the US in the 60s. Prior to this the majority of immigrants that came to America were white Europeans. Perhaps you should go read up about it.
my apolgize on not reading your post correctly about japan....but we are getting a little off topic here, the immigration laws were changed by Jews only cause Jews run the show around here, but to say they did this to get rid of whites is bordering on schizophrenia and absolutely outrages,,. A grade 5 can tell you that massive migration of non whites is necessary to establish a one world government which is much bigger agenda then you're proposing. BTW you are the moron who picks up a book and thinks you are the only one thats read it.....every post from you "do some research"... "go educate yourself" bla bla bla, you may not be a fool but you certainly are a fundamentalist

''And you are the moron that is trying to say they are not".....No I am not. All I am saying is that whatever they do isn't for your schizophrenic reasoning of whites being extermenated.......jeez you belong in a nut house.


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Re: Who has made more advancements for mankind?
« Reply #42 on: July 20, 2011, 10:44:14 PM »
my apolgize on not reading your post correctly about japan....but we are getting a little off topic here, the immigration laws were changed by Jews only cause Jews run the show around here, but to say they did this to get rid of whites is bordering on schizophrenia and absolutely outrages,,. A grade 5 can tell you that massive migration of non whites is necessary to establish a one world government which is much bigger agenda then you're proposing. BTW you are the moron who picks up a book and thinks you are the only one thats read it.....every post from you "do some research"... "go educate yourself" bla bla bla, you may not be a fool but you certainly are a fundamentalist

''And you are the moron that is trying to say they are not".....No I am not. All I am saying is that whatever they do isn't for your schizophrenic reasoning of whites being extermenated.......jeez you belong in a nut house.

I know all about the New World Order plans.

Tell me, why are non whites necessary for an One World Government? Are you saying whites would not go along with an One Word Government?

You say: "A grade 5 can tell you that massive migration of non whites is necessary to establish a one world government which is much bigger agenda then you're proposing."

You are actually admitting that whites need to be replaced with non whites. LOL, and you call me a nut??!

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Re: Who has made more advancements for mankind?
« Reply #43 on: July 20, 2011, 10:50:35 PM »
And one more time in case anybody forgot:

WHITE EUROPEANS have done more for humanity than any other ethnic group. We would not be typing on computers powered by electricity were it not for white men.

Jews would not be driving around in fancy cars and flying first class in jets were it not for white men.

They are fucking ungrateful.

I have to laugh at the two jews maher and the midget reich when they say obama's white half is holding him back because whites half ass everything. Hey bill, in case you didn't know your VIDEO show would not be possible without white men. Maybe they should have half assed that invention so that we would not have to listen to your retarded ass.


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Re: Who has made more advancements for mankind?
« Reply #44 on: July 21, 2011, 05:40:51 AM »
I know all about the New World Order plans.

Tell me, why are non whites necessary for an One World Government? Are you saying whites would not go along with an One Word Government?You say: "A grade 5 can tell you that massive migration of non whites is necessary to establish a one world government which is much bigger agenda then you're proposing."

You are actually admitting that whites need to be replaced with non whites. LOL, and you call me a nut??!
No I am not saying that whites wouldn't go along, I am actually suggesting the oppisite... that nonwhite countries wouldn't go along unless the countries that establish a one world order would openly accept all ethnic, religious, and racial groups equally in their land....hey hey hey, don't get me wrong here I agree with you that this is a bad idea and ya it will probably come back and bite them at the end, especially if a third world war breaks out against muslims, there would be civil chaos everywhere.

Also I agree they are bringing lots of non whites, but I disagree that they are trying to replace whites, the whites are putting themselve in the minority because white families don't have that many children on average in comparison to foreign families.

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« Reply #45 on: July 21, 2011, 11:05:29 AM »
The thought of "privatizing" social security should make any sane person cringe.

Most American's can't take care of themselves. That's been obvious for a long time.

http://www.ehow.com/facts_6777245_average-american-savings-account.html

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« Reply #46 on: July 21, 2011, 09:01:04 PM »

Also I agree they are bringing lots of non whites, but I disagree that they are trying to replace whites, the whites are putting themselve in the minority because white families don't have that many children on average in comparison to foreign families.
It would help if white families did not have to subsidize third world immigrants. Many are receiving housing and education funds at the expense to white tax payers. Perhaps these white families would have more children if THEY were being subsidized??

I am actually suggesting the oppisite... that nonwhite countries wouldn't go along unless the countries that establish a one world order would openly accept all ethnic, religious, and racial groups equally in their land...
Where are you getting this information from? Since when do non-white countries have any influence over western countries? Elites don't need the permission of non-white countries for anything. You forgot the British empire was vast and the indians were singing God Save the Queen right alongside whites. Placating the non-white countries by making all countries non-white is not the reason for what is happening.

Jews feel safer in diverse societies - that is one reason they are promoting non-white immigration into white countries. Another reason could be that a New World Order requires economic and social slaves, and whites are less inclined to fulfill this role compared to non-whites.

Bottom line is white countries are becoming non-white because of jewish actions. It is genocide, pure and simple.

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« Reply #47 on: July 22, 2011, 04:25:07 AM »
Bro, you're very knowledgable but you lack common sense in some areas. White countries don't need permission, they do what they want?....are you high... we aren't living in the barbaric ages anymore. If you want a one world government you're going to need the co-operation of most countries (aternative is war) and the only way is to let them freely in and out of our nations, otherwise public opinion will hang you, plain and simple. The days of conquest are over and you're just being paranoid, sorry I am done argueing with you.

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Re: Who has made more advancements for mankind?
« Reply #48 on: July 22, 2011, 09:49:57 PM »
The thought of trusting your money with the government should make any sane person cringe. If I took all the money that the gov has confiscated for SS over the years and just added to the investments I have already made I could retire today on easy street.

But to me the larger question is whose money is it? If you trust the government to take your money and "invest" it that is fine with me. We insane people should have a choice to keep our own money and invest it as we see fit.

BTW, there is no SS trust fund.


From my perspective, after all we've been through and continue to go through as a country, it kills me to think of old people having to do without basic necessities because some hotshot twenty-something "genius" investment banker has pissed away all their money (along with thousands or millions of others' money at the same time).  I could SO picture a massive crisis like that happening.  And it would be a massive crisis, no doubt about it.  We still don't know where the bottom of this fucking toxic debt crisis is; market stability can and will disappear in a snap because of this bullshit.

With the way it is, SS has been solidly functional and has provided a reliable safety net for the old.  It has maintained a steady surplus, and with the right "means-testing" it would remain functional long into the future.

Anyway, that's the other side of the coin.  I guess it all depends upon your level of trust in the modern financial operators.  I get what you're saying, though.

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« Reply #49 on: July 22, 2011, 09:53:26 PM »
Most American's can't take care of themselves. That's been obvious for a long time.

http://www.ehow.com/facts_6777245_average-american-savings-account.html

Holy hell  :o  I didn't know it was quite this bad.


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In September 2009 an HSBC Bank survey showed 61 percent of Americans could only live three months or less on their savings, with 38 percent stating they don't have enough saved to cover one month's expenses.