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Obama working on 10trillion in uneeded deficit spending nukking economy further
« Reply #1075 on: December 17, 2012, 11:07:18 AM »
thanks democrats!!

spend money on cronies and tek labelled green when none of it works and pocket csh n give us all the bill

wankers

then complain capitalism failed lol

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In any groupog of 100s including a schol should have private security officer
« Reply #1076 on: December 17, 2012, 11:08:15 AM »
its that simple

private security = no rampages

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who spends the 10T fed has printed since obama got in?
« Reply #1077 on: December 17, 2012, 11:19:08 AM »
bs fed isnt political is shit

fed is end run around congress spending


illegal


constituiion designed to limit gov spending

fed just spendis trillion and not by congress executive branch can allocate

which means its already political

crony

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why tax production? tax pending!!! www.fairtax.org
« Reply #1078 on: December 17, 2012, 11:20:40 AM »
its insane to tax production

instead tax consumption

why penalize wealth creator who make poor rich?

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« Reply #1079 on: December 17, 2012, 11:23:32 AM »
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not 1 dollar in government should be spent on crapy software from oracel ibm microsoft

frestuff  works faster

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how did obama get elected? added 9T to make debt 17T wow
« Reply #1080 on: December 17, 2012, 12:20:41 PM »
media too  powerful feeding dummies bs

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2008 debt 8T after paying for iraq afghan wars to defened usa, now debt 17T +9T
« Reply #1081 on: December 17, 2012, 02:31:19 PM »
with osama gone thanks to bush efforts

why this debt?

crony spending

poor n middle class being gutted by dems given big credit card bill as cash goes to cronrties

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Re: why tax production? tax pending!!! www.fairtax.org
« Reply #1082 on: December 17, 2012, 02:34:34 PM »
its insane to tax production

instead tax consumption

why penalize wealth creator who make poor rich?


I believe there is merit to a value added tax. Mainly, no one can escape it. However, sales tax is considered a regressive tax.

How do the wealthy make the poor rich and why would we want to do that? If everyone were wealthy, then it would mean nothing and would provide no social status, like it does now. A person can be the biggest jerk in the world (Donald Trump) and many people will still think they are "the cat's meow" just because they have a lot of money.

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Re: why tax production? tax pending!!! www.fairtax.org
« Reply #1083 on: December 17, 2012, 02:36:17 PM »
I believe there is merit to a value added tax. Mainly, no one can escape it. However, sales tax is considered a regressive tax.

How do the wealthy make the poor rich and why would we want to do that? If everyone were wealthy, then it would mean nothing and would provide no social status, like it does now. A person can be the biggest jerk in the world (Donald Trump) and many people will still think they are "the cat's meow" just because they have a lot of money.

then you are a foolish commie who wants welfare

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Re: why tax production? tax pending!!! www.fairtax.org
« Reply #1084 on: December 17, 2012, 02:50:45 PM »
then you are a foolish commie who wants welfare

Maybe I am dense today. How are you coming to this conclusion from what I posted?

I am not super rich, but I am in pretty good shape financially. I happen to believe there is only so much "pie" and I am lucky to have a fairly large slice of it. I am well aware that this means there is less "pie" for others....that's life. Even if I can't consume all my pie, I will make sure there is plenty there for the future, even if I decide to give some of it away.

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Re: why tax production? tax pending!!! www.fairtax.org
« Reply #1085 on: December 17, 2012, 02:52:45 PM »
Maybe I am dense today. How are you coming to this conclusion from what I posted?

I am not super rich, but I am in pretty good shape financially. I happen to believe there is only so much "pie" and I am lucky to have a fairly large slice of it. I am well aware that this means there is less "pie" for others....that's life. Even if I can't consume all my pie, I will make sure there is plenty there for the future, even if I decide to give some of it away.

if you want communism you are a commy

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« Reply #1086 on: December 17, 2012, 03:02:44 PM »
if you want communism you are a commy

You are frustrating to communicate with sometimes. Where did I ever write that I want Communism? For the record, I think Communism goes against human nature and therefore cannot work. Human nature is in line with survival of the fittest....that is the opposite of Communist idealism.

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Re: why tax production? tax pending!!! www.fairtax.org
« Reply #1087 on: December 17, 2012, 03:08:45 PM »
You are frustrating to communicate with sometimes. Where did I ever write that I want Communism? For the record, I think Communism goes against human nature and therefore cannot work. Human nature is in line with survival of the fittest....that is the opposite of Communist idealism.

I think you step on your own mental dick.

A value added tax is an insane communist tax that lets government add taxes anytime anywhere they want.

Thats un american and insane.

You advocate it as if its normal.

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Re: why tax production? tax pending!!! www.fairtax.org
« Reply #1088 on: December 17, 2012, 04:33:32 PM »
I think you step on your own mental dick.

A value added tax is an insane communist tax that lets government add taxes anytime anywhere they want.

Thats un american and insane.

You advocate it as if its normal.

I see nothing communist about a VAT (that's not to say I like the concept of a VAT - I don't, but that's another topic altogether). In fact, I'd argue that it's profoundly uncommunist, since there's really no concept of value left by the time communism takes over. But don't let facts get in your way...

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Re: why tax production? tax pending!!! www.fairtax.org
« Reply #1089 on: December 17, 2012, 05:34:10 PM »
I think you step on your own mental dick.

A value added tax is an insane communist tax that lets government add taxes anytime anywhere they want.

Thats un american and insane.

You advocate it as if its normal.

Your post; and I quote, "instead tax consumption."

Definition of consumption: 2. Economics, The using up of goods and services by consumer purchasing or in the production of other goods.

Definition of VAT: A type of consumption tax that is placed on a product whenever value is added at a stage of production and at final sale.

Did you not understand the meaning of consumption? It is either that, or if I am a Communist for suggesting a VAT, then you are one too for advocating for consumption tax.

Both are essentially a sales tax.




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« Reply #1090 on: December 17, 2012, 05:43:57 PM »
awesome

tax unions

Explain how you would tax unions? Unions are classified as not for profit which is essentially a non-profit. Member dues pay for services (the union employees' salary and benefits), sometimes insurance and legal costs, etc. Since you can't tax non-existent profits, what would you tax if you taxed a union?

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« Reply #1091 on: December 17, 2012, 06:07:09 PM »
I see nothing communist about a VAT (that's not to say I like the concept of a VAT - I don't, but that's another topic altogether). In fact, I'd argue that it's profoundly uncommunist, since there's really no concept of value left by the time communism takes over. But don't let facts get in your way...


Oregon, where I live, does not have a sales tax. It is one of five states without sales tax. The other four are: Alaska, Delaware, Montana, New Hampshire. The consequences of no sales tax in Oregon are relatively high income and property tax rates as compared to other states with a sales tax. For a good state by state taxation comparison check out this interactive map: http://www.jsonline.com/news/wisconsin/89702927.html.

A sales tax is considered a regressive tax. A regressive tax, is a tax that takes a larger percentage from low-income people than from high-income people. A regressive tax is generally a tax that is applied uniformly. This means that it hits lower-income individuals harder. This would be because lower income people spend a greater portion of their income on everyday goods a services as opposed to being able to invest it, save it or give it away to charity.

As you stated VAT is the opposite of Communism. I guess some folks simply don't understand what they are saying when they post and they apparently don't bother to find out before they post either so they won't look like idiots. I think we know who I am speaking of. The person I have in mind likes to boast that he has a degree in economics from a top 20 University...hmm. He says he is a published author too....double hmm.

There are some good aspects of sales tax. The main thing is that no one can escape paying it. There are no loopholes around paying a sales tax. Well, aside from the fact that a lot of folks on the border between Washington and Oregon, shop in Oregon to avoid paying sales tax. Likewise some folks who work in Oregon, live in Washington to avoid paying Oregon's higher income and property taxes. For those living in Vancouver and working in Portland, they get to sit in grid-lock traffic half their lives. Personally, I wouldn't make this trade off....too aggravating.  


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So at dinner this guy says Somali pirates were caused by oil corps
« Reply #1092 on: December 18, 2012, 02:23:36 AM »
Oil corp poisoned or stole the farm land in Somalia, so the pirates erupted.

True or green bs fed to young anti evil republican empire mind?

I am unsure. 

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Re: why tax production? tax pending!!! www.fairtax.org
« Reply #1093 on: December 18, 2012, 02:54:37 AM »
Oregon, where I live, does not have a sales tax. It is one of five states without sales tax. The other four are: Alaska, Delaware, Montana, New Hampshire. The consequences of no sales tax in Oregon are relatively high income and property tax rates as compared to other states with a sales tax. For a good state by state taxation comparison check out this interactive map: http://www.jsonline.com/news/wisconsin/89702927.html.

A sales tax is considered a regressive tax. A regressive tax, is a tax that takes a larger percentage from low-income people than from high-income people. A regressive tax is generally a tax that is applied uniformly. This means that it hits lower-income individuals harder. This would be because lower income people spend a greater portion of their income on everyday goods a services as opposed to being able to invest it, save it or give it away to charity.

As you stated VAT is the opposite of Communism. I guess some folks simply don't understand what they are saying when they post and they apparently don't bother to find out before they post either so they won't look like idiots. I think we know who I am speaking of. The person I have in mind likes to boast that he has a degree in economics from a top 20 University...hmm. He says he is a published author too....double hmm.

There are some good aspects of sales tax. The main thing is that no one can escape paying it. There are no loopholes around paying a sales tax. Well, aside from the fact that a lot of folks on the border between Washington and Oregon, shop in Oregon to avoid paying sales tax. Likewise some folks who work in Oregon, live in Washington to avoid paying Oregon's higher income and property taxes. For those living in Vancouver and working in Portland, they get to sit in grid-lock traffic half their lives. Personally, I wouldn't make this trade off....too aggravating.  




www.faritax.org shows that to al be wrong.

Never think in percentages only think in absolutes.

The percentages thing is how academics and commnists blur reality.

VAT is very ve very bad idea that should be met with a strom of violece.

I can only imagine how fucking pissed id be if I was paying 1million in taxes, while some fuck is getting obama phone and 2k a month for 99 weeks no work.

Leeching offa producers is how u slow down economy to limp.

cut gov 80%

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« Reply #1094 on: December 18, 2012, 10:14:51 AM »

www.faritax.org shows that to al be wrong.

Never think in percentages only think in absolutes.

The percentages thing is how academics and commnists blur reality.

VAT is very ve very bad idea that should be met with a strom of violece.

I can only imagine how fucking pissed id be if I was paying 1million in taxes, while some fuck is getting obama phone and 2k a month for 99 weeks no work.

Leeching offa producers is how u slow down economy to limp.


cut gov 80%

Your reading comprehension is amazingly bad.  The video you reference, which btw you messed up the link to it, it should be www.fairtax.org,  supports consumption or value added tax. Did you intend to validate my post? Unfortunately, the video goes astray with too much focus on the current poor economy and not on the actual fair tax idea. Clearly it is designed to call on people's insecurity, which makes one wonder about the integrity of organization. Have you donated to Fairtax? That seems to be their primary goal on their webpage which is devoid of any facts or statistics.

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Re: why tax production? tax pending!!! www.fairtax.org
« Reply #1095 on: December 18, 2012, 10:21:40 AM »

www.faritax.org shows that to al be wrong.

Never think in percentages only think in absolutes.

The percentages thing is how academics and commnists blur reality.

VAT is very ve very bad idea that should be met with a strom of violece.

I can only imagine how fucking pissed id be if I was paying 1million in taxes, while some fuck is getting obama phone and 2k a month for 99 weeks no work.

Leeching offa producers is how u slow down economy to limp.

cut gov 80%

By the way, there's nothing fair about the FairTax. It's a ridiculous proposal.

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Re: why tax production? tax pending!!! www.fairtax.org
« Reply #1096 on: December 18, 2012, 12:43:02 PM »
By the way, there's nothing fair about the FairTax. It's a ridiculous proposal.
nah

its awesome and would help the economy and poor

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« Reply #1097 on: December 18, 2012, 12:54:30 PM »
nah

its awesome and would help the economy and poor

It clearly does not help the poor. I am not sure about the economy. Perhaps you could explain how you think it will help the economy.

If goods and services are more expensive because of a VAT then some folks will either not be able to afford them or they will choose not to make some purchases. Although there would be no income tax, thus leaving folks with more cash flow until they make purchases. Some see this as a "fair" tax because everyone pays, unlike income tax where deductions create a situation where some pay nothing and others pay the difference; namely middle-class folks get the tax shaft.

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republican congress means no gun legislation will pass watch for courts
« Reply #1098 on: December 18, 2012, 01:17:31 PM »
the courts are the problem

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Weinstein nixes 'DJANGO' Premiere In Hollywood... Tarantino: 'Give me a break'.
« Reply #1099 on: December 18, 2012, 01:21:10 PM »
drudgereport.com lol