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Re: Tea Partiers Cheer the Downgrade of America's Credit Rating
« Reply #25 on: August 08, 2011, 11:46:13 AM »
There is no such thing as government stimulating the economy.  They can only act to hinder the economy through laws, regulations, debt, & taxes.   

that's complete nonsense


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Re: Tea Partiers Cheer the Downgrade of America's Credit Rating
« Reply #26 on: August 08, 2011, 11:47:35 AM »
that's complete nonsense



Straw - show me one historical example in the USA where spending more money like you advocate ever resulted in a lower debt, unemployment number, and overall prospertiy for the nation.   

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Re: Tea Partiers Cheer the Downgrade of America's Credit Rating
« Reply #27 on: August 08, 2011, 11:48:11 AM »
Exactly. Straw rattles off crap in his posts but is all absolute garbage because it's all based on the fundamentally flawed idea that government can create jobs and make it all better by throwing money at the problem. The idiot can seem to wrap his itty bitty mind around the fact that Obama's presidency has applied that type of reasoning and has failed.

those are all facts and if you believe the government cannot stimulate the private sector then you're utterly clueless about basic macroeconomics....which is par for the course for most of tea baggers on this board


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Re: Tea Partiers Cheer the Downgrade of America's Credit Rating
« Reply #28 on: August 08, 2011, 11:51:09 AM »
those are all facts and if you believe the government cannot stimulate the private sector then you're utterly clueless about basic macroeconomics....which is par for the course for most of tea baggers on this board



 ::)  ::)

The best stimulus is thwe govt going away and getting off the backs of business and taxpayers. 


Face it - your entire Kenyanomics dream of spending into oblivion has failed. 

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Re: Tea Partiers Cheer the Downgrade of America's Credit Rating
« Reply #29 on: August 08, 2011, 11:54:19 AM »
Straw - show me one historical example in the USA where spending more money like you advocate ever resulted in a lower debt, unemployment number, and overall prospertiy for the nation.   

did I say it would result in lower debt?

I thought you were a believer that lower taxes were good for the private sector.  If you believe that (which is not true) then isn't that a "stimulus".  Isn't that why Repubs kept insisting for tax cuts in the stimulus package

btw - do you know who said this (hint - it was a teabagger).  Of course he didn't bother to explain how $$$'s spent on the military stimulates the ecomony but money spent domestically (infrastructure, schools, etc..) somehow doesn't stimulate the economy

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If we decided to build a couple of new carriers, thousands of workers would be hired for the shipyards. Thousands of employees would be hired for the steel mills that would provide the steel for the hull and various sub contractors would hire thousands. Do you know what that means? It means they would receive paychecks and go out and spend that money. That would help a recovery. That is a shovel ready project!

Increasing spending for the military does a couple of things. It not only not only stimulates the economy, it protects our nation.

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Re: Tea Partiers Cheer the Downgrade of America's Credit Rating
« Reply #30 on: August 08, 2011, 11:55:41 AM »
::)  ::)

The best stimulus is thwe govt going away and getting off the backs of business and taxpayers. 


Face it - your entire Kenyanomics dream of spending into oblivion has failed. 

what's Kenyanonimcs ?

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Re: Tea Partiers Cheer the Downgrade of America's Credit Rating
« Reply #31 on: August 08, 2011, 11:57:38 AM »
what's Kenyanonimcs ?

Well Obama is not following Keynsian economics because Keynes advocated not raising taxes in a recession and cutting back when times were good, so what Obama is pursuing, and what you support by virtue of your support of obama - must be something else - perhaps Kenyanomics? 

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Re: Tea Partiers Cheer the Downgrade of America's Credit Rating
« Reply #32 on: August 08, 2011, 12:01:15 PM »
Well Obama is not following Keynsian economics because Keynes advocated not raising taxes in a recession and cutting back when times were good, so what Obama is pursuing, and what you support by virtue of your support of obama - must be something else - perhaps Kenyanomics? 

what else did Keynes recommend during a recession?

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« Reply #33 on: August 08, 2011, 12:03:41 PM »
what else did Keynes recommend during a recession?

I know what he advocated, but that is not what obama and your heroes did.  take ownership for their failure Straw.   

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« Reply #34 on: August 08, 2011, 12:07:30 PM »
I know what he advocated, but that is not what obama and your heroes did.  take ownership for their failure Straw.   

if you actually know what he advocated then why don't you tell us

btw - what heros are you talking about

why do project such nonsense on others

why can't you ever have normal conversation ?

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« Reply #35 on: August 08, 2011, 12:10:40 PM »
if you actually know what he advocated then why don't you tell us

btw - what heros are you talking about

why do project such nonsense on others

why can't you ever have normal conversation ?

Because I greatly enjoy busting your vagina.   

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Re: Tea Partiers Cheer the Downgrade of America's Credit Rating
« Reply #36 on: August 08, 2011, 12:11:05 PM »
those are all facts and if you believe the government cannot stimulate the private sector then you're utterly clueless about basic macroeconomics....which is par for the course for most of tea baggers on this board



Every time that government has tried to create jobs or stimulate the economy, it has hurt the nation. The great depression lasted longer because of it.

Listen fool. Your hero tried it and has failed miserably. What more proof do you need?

Don't tell me that you advocate a higher stim bill?

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Re: Tea Partiers Cheer the Downgrade of America's Credit Rating
« Reply #37 on: August 08, 2011, 12:19:26 PM »
Every time that government has tried to create jobs or stimulate the economy, it has hurt the nation. The great depression lasted longer because of it. Listen fool. Your hero tried it and has failed miserably. What more proof do you need?

Don't tell me that you advocate a higher stim bill?

you truly have no clue what you're talking about

go back and read about the depression and find out what really extended it (hint - it was austerity measures forced by Repubs after stimulus by Roosevelt started to work)

Consult a historian before you bother posting again - unless of course you just want to make up more bullshit


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Re: Tea Partiers Cheer the Downgrade of America's Credit Rating
« Reply #38 on: August 08, 2011, 12:21:32 PM »
Because I greatly enjoy busting your vagina.   

translation =  you have no fucking idea what your'e talking about on the topic of the economy, history, etc..


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Re: Tea Partiers Cheer the Downgrade of America's Credit Rating
« Reply #39 on: August 08, 2011, 12:25:40 PM »
you truly have no clue what you're talking about

go back and read about the depression and find out what really extended it (hint - it was austerity measures forced by Repubs after stimulus by Roosevelt started to work)

Consult a historian before you bother posting again - unless of course you just want to make up more bullshit



NO, you don't have any idea what you are talking about.

Theory ends when reality begins.

AGAIN, OBAMA did exactly what you advocate. Where are the jobs, where is the growth, where is the 8% UE, where is the reduction in deficit?




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Re: Tea Partiers Cheer the Downgrade of America's Credit Rating
« Reply #40 on: August 08, 2011, 12:31:31 PM »
NO, you don't have any idea what you are talking about.

Theory ends when reality begins.

AGAIN, OBAMA did exactly what you advocate. Where are the jobs, where is the growth, where is the 8% UE, where is the reduction in deficit?


great -then tell us all about Roosevelt what he did and didn't do

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Re: Tea Partiers Cheer the Downgrade of America's Credit Rating
« Reply #41 on: August 08, 2011, 12:33:47 PM »
great -then tell us all about Roosevelt what he did and didn't do

The Depression only ended due to WW2 and the pent up demand after the war was over.   

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Re: Tea Partiers Cheer the Downgrade of America's Credit Rating
« Reply #42 on: August 08, 2011, 12:44:11 PM »
The Depression only ended due to WW2 and the pent up demand after the war was over.   

that is partially true but guess what that was

massive borrowing and spending by the government (much greater than anything we're doing today)

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Re: Tea Partiers Cheer the Downgrade of America's Credit Rating
« Reply #43 on: August 08, 2011, 12:46:25 PM »
that is partially true but guess what that was

massive borrowing and spending by the government (much greater than anything we're doing today)



No, you had a domestic population who went without for 5 years and a decimated world economy desperate for our goods and services.     


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Re: Tea Partiers Cheer the Downgrade of America's Credit Rating
« Reply #44 on: August 08, 2011, 01:01:53 PM »
No, you had a domestic population who went without for 5 years and a decimated world economy desperate for our goods and services.     

read some history

or not

won't make any difference since you just seem to believe whatever you want


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Re: Tea Partiers Cheer the Downgrade of America's Credit Rating
« Reply #45 on: August 08, 2011, 01:10:26 PM »
Yes you have. You and thousands of miscreant haters like you have damaged the nation. You are destroying the character of this nation and any semblance  of rational discourse. Your fringe group cannot be reasoned with but must be shown to rational voters for the bigots and far right zealots that you truly are. You are not bringing down a President, you are bringing down a nation.
major points for the use of "miscreant".
that drove several to their dictionary....
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Re: Tea Partiers Cheer the Downgrade of America's Credit Rating
« Reply #46 on: August 08, 2011, 03:59:27 PM »
major points for the use of "miscreant".
that drove several to their dictionary....

Too bad it didn't drive you to a second grade grammar class. What a horribly written post.

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Re: Tea Partiers Cheer the Downgrade of America's Credit Rating
« Reply #47 on: August 08, 2011, 05:13:15 PM »
Lol, the idiots on this board are too much. That's ok though, that train of thought has allowed me to make some nice dough, so let's stimulate more, borrow more and print more baby. Lol

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Re: Tea Partiers Cheer the Downgrade of America's Credit Rating
« Reply #48 on: August 08, 2011, 06:10:54 PM »
The liberals are seeing their entire thing collapse.  Their agenda has failed, their messiah has failed, their idealogy has failed, etc. 

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Re: Tea Partiers Cheer the Downgrade of America's Credit Rating
« Reply #49 on: August 08, 2011, 07:28:41 PM »
Lol, the idiots on this board are too much. That's ok though, that train of thought has allowed me to make some nice dough, so let's stimulate more, borrow more and print more baby. Lol

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