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Re: How Healthy is Fast Food?
« Reply #25 on: August 17, 2011, 07:48:09 PM »

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Re: How Healthy is Fast Food?
« Reply #26 on: August 17, 2011, 07:48:42 PM »
Tell you what, just tell me how any of  these chemicals can promote health. that should be good for starters.
All.  Start with TriSodium Phosphate first.  Look it up and report back to me.  Its a VERY good thing for a person, especially an athlete.  Its added to Orange Juice as well.

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Re: How Healthy is Fast Food?
« Reply #27 on: August 17, 2011, 07:50:57 PM »
For Instance, Tri-Sodium-Phosphate, is a VERY, VERY good thing for you and it helps regulate acidity in foods which preserves Vitamin Content.  Also, its a great for reducing lactic acid in the muscles as well as increasing a VO2 Max.

I also use it to clean surfaces before I paint.  I could use Vinegar as well and get the same affect.  I have 160-170 year old wood and over 500 year old floors (age of the Heart Pine) and TSP is quite gentle.  I prefer Vinegar on the floors though. Just a small amount.

Sounds yummy, this VERY VERY good thing.  ::)

Trisodium phosphate poisoningURL of this page: http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/002489.htm
.Trisodium phosphate is a strong chemical. Poisoning occurs if you accidentally swallow, breathe in, or spill large amounts of this substance on your skin.

This is for information only and not for use in the treatment or management of an actual poison exposure. If you have an exposure, you should call your local emergency number (such as 911) or the National Poison Control Center at 1-800-222-1222.

Poisonous IngredientTrisodium phosphate

Where Found•Some automatic dishwashing soaps
•Some toilet bowl cleaners
•Many industrial solvents and cleaners (hundreds to thousands of construction agents, flooring strippers, brick cleaners, cements, and many others)
Note: This list may not be all-inclusive.

Symptoms•Airways and lungs
◦Breathing difficulty (from inhalation)
◦Coughing
◦Throat swelling (which may also cause breathing difficulty)
•Eyes, ears, nose, and throat
◦Severe pain in the throat
◦Severe pain or burning in the nose, eyes, ears, lips, or tongue
◦Vision loss
•Heart and blood
◦Low blood pressure -- develops rapidly
◦Collapse
◦Severe change in blood acid level
•Skin
◦Burns
◦Hives
◦Holes in the skin or underlying tissue
◦Skin irritation
•Stomach and intestines
◦Blood in the stool
◦Burns of the esophagus (food pipe) and stomach
◦Diarrhea
◦Severe abdominal pain
◦Vomiting (possibly bloody)
Home CareDo NOT make a person throw up.

If the chemical is on the skin or in the eyes, flush with lots of water for at least 15 minutes.

If the chemical was swallowed, immediately give the person water or milk. Do NOT give water or milk if the patient is vomiting or has a decreased level of alertness.

If the person breathed in the poison, immediately move him or her to fresh air.


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Re: How Healthy is Fast Food?
« Reply #28 on: August 17, 2011, 07:51:53 PM »

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Re: How Healthy is Fast Food?
« Reply #29 on: August 17, 2011, 07:53:19 PM »
 When I eat not clean, what I am looking for is fat and sugar. That is what gives the taste of unclean foods. I do not want artificial sweeteners, artificial colors, preservatives and hydrogenated fats.

  There is junk food and then there is ultra-junk food. A food that contains nothing but refined flour, sugar and saturated fats is junk food, but a food that contains what I just mentioned plus artificial colors, preservatives, hydrogenated oils, petroleum sweeteners like cyclamate, MSG, etc, takes the food to a level of horrible that is above and beyond junk. It is the difference between a naturally-baked French toast, which is nothing but white flour(junk), to supermarket white bread which also includes hydrogenated margarine, Sodium benzoate, lye(to give the white color)..

  It is very hard to find junk food that does not contain the super bad stuff. One of the few I know is Haagen-Dazs ice cream. There is nothing there but saturated fat and sugar. They don't add any preservatives, hydrogenated fats or artificial colors.
Compare this to supermarket ice cream, which besides sugar, contains hydrogenated fats(because butter is too expensive), tons of artificial colors derived either from petroleum or charcoal and even insects. Yep, insects. Many ice creams are colorored with a tiny yard insect that I forgot the name that gives a "natural" red color.

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All Flour is refined.  I take it you have never been to a Mill before or have seen a Wheat Field.  Flour doesn`t grow in little white 5lb bags you know.

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Re: How Healthy is Fast Food?
« Reply #30 on: August 17, 2011, 07:55:15 PM »
Sounds yummy, this VERY VERY good thing.  ::)

Trisodium phosphate poisoningURL of this page: http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/002489.htm
.Trisodium phosphate is a strong chemical. Poisoning occurs if you accidentally swallow, breathe in, or spill large amounts of this substance on your skin.

This is for information only and not for use in the treatment or management of an actual poison exposure. If you have an exposure, you should call your local emergency number (such as 911) or the National Poison Control Center at 1-800-222-1222.

Poisonous IngredientTrisodium phosphate

Where Found•Some automatic dishwashing soaps
•Some toilet bowl cleaners
•Many industrial solvents and cleaners (hundreds to thousands of construction agents, flooring strippers, brick cleaners, cements, and many others)
Note: This list may not be all-inclusive.

Symptoms•Airways and lungs
◦Breathing difficulty (from inhalation)
◦Coughing
◦Throat swelling (which may also cause breathing difficulty)
•Eyes, ears, nose, and throat
◦Severe pain in the throat
◦Severe pain or burning in the nose, eyes, ears, lips, or tongue
◦Vision loss
•Heart and blood
◦Low blood pressure -- develops rapidly
◦Collapse
◦Severe change in blood acid level
•Skin
◦Burns
◦Hives
◦Holes in the skin or underlying tissue
◦Skin irritation
•Stomach and intestines
◦Blood in the stool
◦Burns of the esophagus (food pipe) and stomach
◦Diarrhea
◦Severe abdominal pain
◦Vomiting (possibly bloody)
Home CareDo NOT make a person throw up.

If the chemical is on the skin or in the eyes, flush with lots of water for at least 15 minutes.

If the chemical was swallowed, immediately give the person water or milk. Do NOT give water or milk if the patient is vomiting or has a decreased level of alertness.

If the person breathed in the poison, immediately move him or her to fresh air.


Try again.

What you are looking for is E339.  Not what you posted.

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Re: How Healthy is Fast Food?
« Reply #31 on: August 17, 2011, 07:57:08 PM »
Oh fuck it you are too dumb.  I will do it for you.


http://www.jsams.org/article/S1440-2440(07)00090-4/abstract

Sodium phosphate loading improves laboratory cycling time-trial performance in trained cyclists
Jonathan P. Folland, Ric Stern, Gary Brickley
Accepted 22 April 2007.

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Summary
Sodium phosphate loading has been reported to increase maximal oxygen uptake (6–12%), however its influence on endurance performance has been ambiguous. The aim of this study was to examine the influence of sodium phosphate loading on laboratory 16.1km cycling time-trial performance. Six trained male cyclists ( peak, 64.1±2.8mlkg−1min−1; mean±S.D.) took part in a randomised double-blind crossover study. Upon completion of a control trial (C), participants ingested either 1g of tribasic dodecahydrate sodium phosphate (SP) or lactose placebo (P) four times daily for 6 days prior to performing a 16.1km (10 mile) cycling time-trial under laboratory conditions. Power output and heart rate were continually recorded throughout each test, and at two points during each time-trial expired air samples and capillary blood samples were taken. There was a 14-day period between each of the supplemented time-trials. After SP loading mean power was greater than for P and C (C, 322±15W; P, 317±16W; SP, 347±19W; ANOVA, P<0.05) and time to complete the 16.1km was shorter than P, but not C (ANOVA, P<0.05). During the SP trial, relative to the P, mean changes were mean power output +9.8±8.0% (±95% confidence interval); time −3.0±2.9%. There was a tendency towards higher  after SP loading (ANOVA, P=0.07). Heart rate, , RER and blood lactate concentration were not significantly affected by SP loading. Sodium phosphate loading significantly improved mean power output and 16.1km time-trial performance of trained cyclists under laboratory conditions with functional increases in oxygen uptake.

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Re: How Healthy is Fast Food?
« Reply #32 on: August 17, 2011, 08:01:36 PM »
Thanks TA, you just proved you're one of the dumbest mofo's on here.

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Re: How Healthy is Fast Food?
« Reply #33 on: August 17, 2011, 08:01:51 PM »
http://www.livestrong.com/article/40858-sodium-phosphate-label/

What is Sodium Phosphate on a Food Label?






Sodium phosphate is a generic term that may refer to any sodium salt of phosphoric acid. They're commonly added to food and may serve a variety of purposes. Sodium phosphates have been well studied and are generally considered safe when used as a food additive.

Specific Compounds
Sodium phosphate may refer to any of three specific compounds, although it most often refers to trisodium phosphate (Na3PO4) unless otherwise specified. Sodium dihydrogen phosphate (NaH2PO4) may also be called monosodium phosphate. Disodium hydrogen phosphate (Na2HPO4) may also be called disodium phosphate.

Texturizer
Disodium hydrogen phosphate can serve as a texturizer and texture-modifying agent. This form of sodium phosphate may be added for the purpose of changing the appearance or feel of the food. A texturizing agent is frequently added to increase the shelf life of the food.

Emulsifier
All three forms of sodium phosphate can serve as an emulsifier. An emulsifier is added to allow for the uniform dispersion of two or more ingredients that would otherwise be immiscible. The most common specific purpose of an emulsifier is to prevent oil from separating from the rest of the mixture. Sodium phosphate is commonly added as an emulsifying agent to processed cheeses, processed meats and canned soups.

Leavening Agent(This is why it is in Chicken that is breaded DISGUSTED)
Sodium phosphate may be added to a baked product to help the dough rise. The most common uses of sodium phosphate as a leavening agent are in batter for breaded chicken or fish and commercially sold cakes.

Surface-Active Agents
Sodium phosphates can also be added to food to change the surface tension of the liquid components of the food. This is typically done to serve as a foaming or whipping agent.

Neutralizing Agent
Sodium phosphate can be added to food to keep it from becoming too acidic or alkaline.

Nutrient
Sodium phosphate can be added to food as a dietary supplement. These compounds provide phosphates which are an essential nutrient.


Read more: http://www.livestrong.com/article/40858-sodium-phosphate-label/#ixzz1VLUq45WT

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Re: How Healthy is Fast Food?
« Reply #34 on: August 17, 2011, 08:03:25 PM »
I hope that helps. (I am sure it will not as the lot of you have no Understanding of Food Science or Molecular Gastronomy whatsoever)

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Re: How Healthy is Fast Food?
« Reply #35 on: August 17, 2011, 08:07:33 PM »
Thanks TA, you just proved you're one of the dumbest mofo's on here.

Hahahha this kid just doesn't get it. So I guess I should cap me up some of this shit to improve my cycling time.  ::) Better yet just eat a big mac before the big Olympic event.

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Re: How Healthy is Fast Food?
« Reply #36 on: August 17, 2011, 08:10:21 PM »
Hahahha this kid just doesn't get it. So I guess I should cap me up some of this shit to improve my cycling time.  ::) Better yet just eat a big mac before the big Olympic event.
Didn`t hurt Michael Phelps at all.

http://gawker.com/5038764/heroic-phelps-inspires-world-to-gorge-on-mcdonalds

Heroic Phelps Inspires World To Gorge On McDonalds

Are you sick of hearing by now how Michael Phelps eats 12,000 calories a day to fuel his superhuman championship swimming for the gold? Too bad dude! Because what has not been adequately discussed by the media is how awesomely all-American Michael Phelps' calories are. He eats McDonalds! And you can follow his championship diet, too! Allow one of our nation's most prominent journalists to tell you all about it:

NBC anchor Brian Williams gave Phelps some special McD's dining advice before their recent interview:

I told him there was no mustard on them, and that the minced onion was kept to a minimum. I could see in his eyes that he realized he was in the company of a fellow aficionado. He changed his order – so excited at the thought of McDonalds for the first time since arriving here in Beijing — and the interview began.

Will Phelps prove to be yet more proof that fast food is the key to a healthy life? McDonalds very much hopes so.

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Re: How Healthy is Fast Food?
« Reply #37 on: August 17, 2011, 08:14:33 PM »
http://www.webmd.com/diet/news/20080813/the-olympic-diet-of-michael-phelps
What does Michael Phelps eat for breakfast?

NBC commentator Bob Costas rattled off Phelps' breakfast menu, which includes three sandwiches of fried eggs, cheese, lettuce, tomato, fried onions, mayonnaise, an omelet, a bowl of grits, three slices of French toast with powdered sugar, and three chocolate-chip pancakes.

Without knowing the exact details of the portions, recipes, and ingredients, this meal probably contains roughly 3,000 calories, about half from carbohydrates, a little less than half from fat, and 15% from protein. It's not a bad distribution of major nutrients for competition, according to dietary recommendations, assuming the breads are whole grain, the cheese is low fat, and the fats used to fry the eggs are healthy. The addition of fruit would improve the nutritional profile of this meal, Bonci says.


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Re: How Healthy is Fast Food?
« Reply #38 on: August 17, 2011, 08:15:55 PM »
I hope that helps. (I am sure it will not as the lot of you have no Understanding of Food Science or Molecular Gastronomy whatsoever)

you must have a degree in these sciences then?

or are you all google-fu?
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« Reply #39 on: August 17, 2011, 08:16:34 PM »
Adonis is wasting his time trying to educate the knuckleheads on this forum. The ones beyond hope are the self-styled experts like Coach who know very little.

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Re: How Healthy is Fast Food?
« Reply #40 on: August 17, 2011, 08:18:48 PM »
http://www.webmd.com/diet/news/20080813/the-olympic-diet-of-michael-phelps
What does Michael Phelps eat for breakfast?

NBC commentator Bob Costas rattled off Phelps' breakfast menu, which includes three sandwiches of fried eggs, cheese, lettuce, tomato, fried onions, mayonnaise, an omelet, a bowl of grits, three slices of French toast with powdered sugar, and three chocolate-chip pancakes.

Without knowing the exact details of the portions, recipes, and ingredients, this meal probably contains roughly 3,000 calories, about half from carbohydrates, a little less than half from fat, and 15% from protein. It's not a bad distribution of major nutrients for competition, according to dietary recommendations, assuming the breads are whole grain, the cheese is low fat, and the fats used to fry the eggs are healthy. The addition of fruit would improve the nutritional profile of this meal, Bonci says.



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Re: How Healthy is Fast Food?
« Reply #41 on: August 17, 2011, 08:19:03 PM »
All Flour is refined.  I take it you have never been to a Mill before or have seen a Wheat Field.  Flour doesn`t grow in little white 5lb bags you know.

 No shit, genius. Semantics. Of course all flour is refined, but when I say refined flour I am talking about flour from which the wheat germ has been removed. This causes it too lose the maority of the wheat's vitamin Bs, all of the vitamin E, 90% of the phosphorus, Iron and Manganese content, increases it's GI dramatically resulting in hyperglycemia and the potential for it to cause diabetes, loses the fiber causing constipation etc. I thought you would have picked up on that.

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Re: How Healthy is Fast Food?
« Reply #42 on: August 17, 2011, 08:19:31 PM »
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/03/21/mcrunner-sets-personal-re_n_838382.html

McRunner Sets Personal Record At L.A. Marathon: Joseph D'Amico Ate Only McDonald's For 30 Days
First Posted: 03/21/11 02:10 PM ET Updated: 03/23/11 09:09 AM ET



Marathon runner and suburban dad Joe D'Amico made headlines for his plan to eat nothing but McDonald's in the 30 days leading up to the Los Angleles marathon. Some supported his effort, others were concerned for his health--but D'Amico survived the challenge, setting a personal record in the race and even improving his cholesterol levels.

"I couldn't ask for a better run on a tough course in difficult conditions," D'Amico told Palatine Patch after completing the L.A. Marathon with an unofficial time of 2:36.14. He improved his previous best time by 30 seconds despite rain, gusty winds and an all-McDonald's diet.

D'Amico, who has been dubbed the "McRunner," outlined his plan on his blog, aptly titled "Confessions of a Drive-Thru Runner." For 30 days, he logged everything he ate, which includes 91 hotcakes, 24 orders of oatmeal, 23 hamburgers, 24 chicken "Snack Wraps" and lots of McDonald's cookies.

What started as a food challenge soon morphed into a big fundraising effort, D'Amico told City Best last week.

"The goal was originally to just complete the 30 days and run a personal best marathon," D'Amico said. "Halfway in to the challenge, I added the goal to raise money for the Ronald McDonald House Charities."

The runner pledged to donate $1 for every McRunner Facebook fan through March 20th (up to $2,500) to the Ronald McDonald House Charities and raise an additional $2,500 via his fundraising page. His father then offered to match the $2,500 donation, and when news of his story spread, donations came rolling in. Palatine Patch reports that he ended up raising more than $26,000 for Ronald McDonald's charities.

"From day one, I received such positive feedback and encouragement from friends, family and even those I never met," D'Amico said on his fundraising page. "That made me realize that I could provide more than just a little entertainment and inspiration; I could actually make a difference!"


The 15-time marathon runner said he is not burned out on McDonald's, and his body doesn't seem to be, either. Blood work taken before the challenge showed his cholesterol at 186, by day 25 of all-McDonald's, he was at 158 (he also runs about 100 miles per week).

"If you make good choices and better choices more often than not, you're going to have good results," he told Patch. "There's diet, there's exercise, there's stress. There's a lot of things. That's something I try to tell people to keep in mind. Don't focus on one aspect look at things as a whole."

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Re: How Healthy is Fast Food?
« Reply #43 on: August 17, 2011, 08:28:04 PM »
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/03/21/mcrunner-sets-personal-re_n_838382.html

McRunner Sets Personal Record At L.A. Marathon: Joseph D'Amico Ate Only McDonald's For 30 Days
First Posted: 03/21/11 02:10 PM ET Updated: 03/23/11 09:09 AM ET



Marathon runner and suburban dad Joe D'Amico made headlines for his plan to eat nothing but McDonald's in the 30 days leading up to the Los Angleles marathon. Some supported his effort, others were concerned for his health--but D'Amico survived the challenge, setting a personal record in the race and even improving his cholesterol levels.

"I couldn't ask for a better run on a tough course in difficult conditions," D'Amico told Palatine Patch after completing the L.A. Marathon with an unofficial time of 2:36.14. He improved his previous best time by 30 seconds despite rain, gusty winds and an all-McDonald's diet.

D'Amico, who has been dubbed the "McRunner," outlined his plan on his blog, aptly titled "Confessions of a Drive-Thru Runner." For 30 days, he logged everything he ate, which includes 91 hotcakes, 24 orders of oatmeal, 23 hamburgers, 24 chicken "Snack Wraps" and lots of McDonald's cookies.

What started as a food challenge soon morphed into a big fundraising effort, D'Amico told City Best last week.

"The goal was originally to just complete the 30 days and run a personal best marathon," D'Amico said. "Halfway in to the challenge, I added the goal to raise money for the Ronald McDonald House Charities."

The runner pledged to donate $1 for every McRunner Facebook fan through March 20th (up to $2,500) to the Ronald McDonald House Charities and raise an additional $2,500 via his fundraising page. His father then offered to match the $2,500 donation, and when news of his story spread, donations came rolling in. Palatine Patch reports that he ended up raising more than $26,000 for Ronald McDonald's charities.

"From day one, I received such positive feedback and encouragement from friends, family and even those I never met," D'Amico said on his fundraising page. "That made me realize that I could provide more than just a little entertainment and inspiration; I could actually make a difference!"


The 15-time marathon runner said he is not burned out on McDonald's, and his body doesn't seem to be, either. Blood work taken before the challenge showed his cholesterol at 186, by day 25 of all-McDonald's, he was at 158 (he also runs about 100 miles per week).

"If you make good choices and better choices more often than not, you're going to have good results," he told Patch. "There's diet, there's exercise, there's stress. There's a lot of things. That's something I try to tell people to keep in mind. Don't focus on one aspect look at things as a whole."

One word, JIM FIXX, OK that's two. Has nothing to do with health jackass.

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Re: How Healthy is Fast Food?
« Reply #44 on: August 17, 2011, 08:28:31 PM »
Basil..seriously. Anytime you want to go head to head on training knowledge just say the word. TA, the invite is still open for you to come debate me or Berardi face to face with no google around. We're both going to be at the Perform Better summit next weekend here in Long Beach. No computers, no google. What do you say?

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« Reply #45 on: August 17, 2011, 08:30:48 PM »
Basil..seriously. Anytime you want to go head to head on training knowledge just say the word. TA, the invite is still open for you to come debate me or Berardi face to face with no google around. We're both going to be at the Perform Better summit next weekend here in Long Beach. No computers, no google. What do you say?
I`ll have to ask Alki.  Perhaps we can do it onnnnnnnnnn BATTLECAMS.com

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« Reply #46 on: August 17, 2011, 08:33:19 PM »
Nope, you have zero integrity to be trusted. Face to face.

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« Reply #47 on: August 17, 2011, 08:35:20 PM »
I`ll have to ask Alki.  Perhaps we can do it onnnnnnnnnn BATTLECAMS.com

Something tells me your face to face debate skills are sorely lacking.

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Re: How Healthy is Fast Food?
« Reply #48 on: August 17, 2011, 08:36:48 PM »
It may taste good, but it's low quality food and certainly is not healthy. Seems like the average is 15 or more chemicals to every one food ingredient.

http://www.naturalnews.com/022194.html

McDonalds chicken.

"The chicken has sodium phosphates (of an unspecified variety). It could be trisodium phosphate (a cleanser), monosodium phosphate (a laxative), or disodium hydrogen phosphate [11]. Why would McDonald's add sodium phosphates (a foaming agent), and dimethylpolysiloxane added as an antifoaming agent in their crispy chicken breast fillets? It isn't dishwasher detergent."

"Some of these food additives are not foods at all, but are chemicals that are generally recognized as safe. Most of these additives cannot be found at your local grocery store, probably because they aren't food. But some can be found at your local hardware store, though in inedible products like low tox antifreeze, silicone caulk, soap, sunscreen, and play sand."




I eat McD's maybe twice a year and each time I get diarreah.
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Re: How Healthy is Fast Food?
« Reply #49 on: August 17, 2011, 08:37:21 PM »
Basil..seriously. Anytime you want to go head to head on training knowledge just say the word. TA, the invite is still open for you to come debate me or Berardi face to face with no google around. We're both going to be at the Perform Better summit next weekend here in Long Beach. No computers, no google. What do you say?
How about you guys come here.  I have two full Kitchens and an outdoor Summer Kitchen so you can bring your Protein Powders and they will be safe.  You can stay the night also.  (No Homo of course.)