Dorians olympia stack and offseason cycle in new md

[Meso_z]

BUMP ! I was hopin' W8M8 could post a link as well !


BUMP !!

x2 bumpppppp

I want the whole discussion. 

[Stavios]

x2 bumpppppp

I want the whole discussion. 

yes, I want the whole W8M8 !

[Van_Bilderass]

Just google part of the quote. It wasn't Hernon post. It was by Big Andrei.

Nowadays Phil is selling research chemicals, not for human consumption. 

[The_Iron_Disciple]

Nowadays Phil is selling research chemicals, not for human consumption. 

LOLOLOL !! I have always admired your sense of humor, my friend.

[Cleanest Natural]

lol @ the peeps who think w8m8 is a woman

[Stavios]

lol @ the peeps who think w8m8 is a woman

she is a woman because she says so and nobody lies on the interwebz

[Jlovato]

hmmm there saying Daily so does that mean 300 prop a day? so 2100mg a week? 150 tren per day is about right, dont know anything about primobolan... and the anavar seems to be on the low end. iv known people to run 100mg anavar a day...and even up to 200 tren perday about 10 days b4 a show. if the test is at 2100 per week its the highest  iv seen so far...maybe im reading it wrong?

[Stavios]

hmmm there saying Daily so does that mean 300 prop a day? so 2100mg a week? 150 tren per day is about right, dont know anything about primobolan... and the anavar seems to be on the low end. iv known people to run 100mg anavar a day...and even up to 200 tren perday about 10 days b4 a show. if the test is at 2100 per week its the highest  iv seen so far...maybe im reading it wrong?

no bro, these fucking bullshiters are saying 300mg prop PER WEEK

 

[Jlovato]

oh in that case, yeah thats not true! lol, thx

[Swlabr]

A slap to the fucking face. Thanks, Dorian.

[pillowtalk]

lol @ the peeps who think w8m8 is a woman

LOL @ peeps who think your a man.

PT

[Viking11]

Pre contest you dont want to use very much test. its ony when bulking. 300mg seems believable to me if he were going into contest. if he were bulking no way! most BB keep their test intake very low going into contest. but im not sure how far out they were talking about a few weeks I believe it. 12 weeks no way!. but it is true a few weeks before a show 300mg is believable.

yep!  High test is NOT good before a show- can you say water retention? and just try to get rid of it, even a week of suffering and lasix is going to leave you still on the wet side.  Dont believe me.  Pin 1000 -1500 mg of test over a couple days time and get back to us...

[gh15]

yep!  High test is NOT good before a show- can you say water retention? and just try to get rid of it, even a week of suffering and lasix is going to leave you still on the wet side.  Dont believe me.  Pin 1000 -1500 mg of test over a couple days time and get back to us...

it depends what kind of testosterona,,,suspension is very good,, we all use it  at high doses,, in and out fast,, and diuretic will dry you ,, you just need one thing that the humngarian steve told you here

T I M I N G

master of timing is the best bodybuilder!,, it is being master of timing!

gh15 approved

[w8m8]

lol @ the peeps who think w8m8 is a woman

I'm 100x more woman than your mother .. fuckwit .. get off the retard drugs and go tend to your website

I can keep my word to Ron and not attack you .. I don't want to hurt your feelings and end up in TimeOut again .. but thanks for the vindication that you can't stop trolling me .. owning your mind makes me a slum lord ... please stop thinking about me I find you totally disgusting



Squadfather wannabe    .. it's quite telling how you have nothing else to do worthwhile in your life by seeing how much you are here and what you post ... you're a LOSER Gypsy twat .. but your kind are worthless so that's to be expected

[StanZoLOL]

Just google part of the quote. It wasn't Hernon post. It was by Big Andrei.

Nowadays Phil is selling research chemicals, not for human consumption. 

One of the bigger scumbags on ProM, IMO. And I believe he admitted to something like 1.5g test and 13iu growth at his peak + other AAS.

[The Wizard of Truth]

lol @ the peeps who think w8m8 is a woman

Nothing to do with you
You're a troll and we are following an interesting thread
Your pointless bullshit isn't wanted

[w8m8]

Great quote there, where did you find it? can you redirect me to the thread?

Actually, some great posts in this last page.

the original thread was archived but here's a link to see where it was brought up again

http://www.uk-muscle.co.uk/steroid-testosterone-information/146566-dorian-yates-cycle-posted-apparently-legit-3.html#post2441943

Well, Muscular development is owned by Twin Labs, so they no doubt pump their products and yes there would be some slant in that for money reasons.

Here is an article written by Big A that is a pro, posted here years ago.

Taken from professionalmuscle forum and written by the owner and IFBB Pro:

This site was always set up as an advanced site, where you can find TRUTHFUL information about bodybuilding, not bul**** and ideology promoted by people who generally have agendas.

This is the truth:

If your diet, training, health and rest are completely up to scratch, the more steroids you take, the bigger you will get. It's as simple as that.

Pros have got their diet, training (health for the most part) and rest up to a standard that works for them perfectly, but they are only the size they are due to the drugs they take. Don't beleive the crap from anyone, that they are not, even from the 'in the know' people that are on this board. Those very same people for the most part have used/use extremely higher dosages than what they preach. Why do they preach the low dosages? - various personal agendas.

Reality is that as a rule, 1g per week of test non stop year round is the 'off' time for the pros. Gear is added as it's obtained - no real detailed cycles as such. As long as they take the high dosages of gear, they'll grow (as long as the diet, training, health and sleep is up to scratch as mentioned previously).

Several grams of test per week, several grams of anabolics per week, up to 2g/week of tren, a **** load of orals, insulin several times a day year round, GH as much as can be afforded - 15 to 30IU/day, etc.

BUT, pros have the genetics to have their bodies accept the gear, and generally not get sick on it.

And ancilliary use is huge - liver aids to the max, anti-e's, dht blockers, cardio supps, cholesterol supps, etc.

Still, most of them are complete wrecks. They can't control bodily functions,
they pass out from walking a flight of stairs, they get drenched in sweat from tying their shoelaces. Gyno, baldness, dry skin, gout, excess bodily hair, acne, etc are ALL existant in virtually all of them.

It is not a healthy sport, drug use is ENORMOUS, but to ignore it and to preach otherwise is pathetic and not what this site is about.

BTW, Synthetek's books have on them who's who of current pros ordering Syntherol constantly. They ALL use it extensively. It is pathetic though, when one orders a bottle and their credit card gets declined due to not enough funds. You think a 30+ yo would have his life in order more than that.

Hillys post almost 2 years ago, in red is Phils comments:
Just to add to this guys.

As some of you no i was getting help from phil hernon over on pro muscle. I stoped working with him as when i stoped making gaisn his answere was just more gear no adjustment to diet or training.

when i questioned him he said the realuty and truth is more gear equals more growth. Most pro's and good level amatuers if not all are using alot of gear and thats just the way it is.

i have no reason to doubt him or big a as i believe both of them. below is a post BIG A put up i saved regarding his drug use.

thought it was a good post thats why i kept it.

I never took anything for BP. It was always perfect. Proscar for the prostate and hair loss. HCG/Clomid throughout. Femara and Nolvadex throughout. Niacin, fish oils, green tea, CQ10, aspirin for the cv system. metformin to counteract the insulin resistance. Inj B12 and l-carnintine. Liver aids. T3.

I owned my own vet drug company at the time, so I was paying less than $50 for a 500ml vial of test prop of 100mg/ml. That would last 1 year at 1g/week. All other gear was either through my vet company or on script through my pharmacy that I partially own. 50ml Stan was $18. 10ml Deca was $12 and so on. GH was the only expensive thing at $500 for 24IU.
So apart from the GH, the stuff to keep me healthy cost WAY more than the gear itself.

I do need to point out, that I did build up to that over many years, the way BBoy said. I didn't just jump from 250mg/week to the above regimen.

Also, Steele's post is spot on. Getting to pro size is having the genetics to accept the drugs in any quantity without sides. Most people don't have that ability.

And no, I didnt' have any mental issues that I remember. If anything, I am much happier on gear than off.

Personal experience - 1g/week of test in the form of Sustanon or Test Prop was my non stop base for many years. I lost count of the years when I was doing that, but it was way over 5.

Then I would 'cycle' on top of that - 3g of test/week, 1g/week anabolics, orals, insulin, gh.

Never had any sides. BP was always 120/80. Hdl/LDL was fine. No libido issues. Recovery did not take long when I stopped. Years later I fathered 2 children, while on hrt. No hairloss, no prostate issues, no gyno.

I was getting full health check ups (blood, heart, ultrasounds of liver, etc) every 3 months and every 4 weeks when cycling. I was using a HUGE amount of drugs/products to make sure I was getting no sides

Taken from another board Tom Princes cycle:

Week #1: 4 iu's GH/day; 4 x Sostenon 250 mg.; 200 mg. Deca Durabolin; 1 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day

Week #2: 4 iu's GH/day; 5 x Sostenon 250 mg.; 200 mg. Deca Durabolin; 1 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day

Week #3: 4 iu's GH/day; 5 x Sostenon 250 mg.; 200 mg. Deca Durabolin; 2 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; (pre a.m. workout) 2 x 25 mg. ephedrine tab, 200 mg. caffeine tab

Week #4: 4 iu's GH/day; 6 x Sostenon 250 mg.; 400 mg. Deca Durabolin; 2 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; (pre a.m. workout) 2 x 25 mg. ephedrine tab, 200 mg. caffeine tab

Week #5: 6iu's GH/day; 6 x Sostenon 250 mg.; 400 mg. Deca Durabolin; 2 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; (pre a.m. workout) 3 x 25 mg. ephedrine tab, 200 mg. caffeine tab

Week #6: 6 iu's GH/day; 6 x Sostenon 250 mg.; 400 mg. Deca Durabolin; 2 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; (pre a.m. workout) 3 x 25 mg. ephedrine tab, 200 mg. caffeine tab

Week #7: off; 5000 iu HCG/day; 2 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; 4 clenbuterol/day (2 days on 1 day off); 300 mg. caffeine x 6 days/week (a.m. only)

Week #8: off; 2 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; 4 clenbuterol/day (2 days on 1 day off); 300 mg. caffeine x 6 days/week (a.m. only)

Week #9: 6 iu's GH/day; 1200 mg. Test Cypionate; 600 mg. Deca Durabolin; 150 mg. Winstrol-V (50 mg. each M-W-F); 4 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; 4 x 25 mg. ephedrine tab, 300 mg. caffeine tab (a.m. only)


Week #10: 6 iu's GH/day; 1200 mg. Test Cypionate; 600 mg. Deca Durabolin; 150 mg. Winstrol-V (50 mg. each M-W-F); 4 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; 4 x 25 mg. ephedrine tab, 300 mg. caffeine tab (a.m. only)

Week #11: 6 iu's GH/day; 1200 mg. Test Cypionate; 600 mg. Deca Durabolin; 150 mg. Winstrol-V (50 mg. each M-W-F); 4 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; 5 x Clenbuterol tabs, 300 mg. caffeine tab (a.m. only)


Week #12: 6 iu's GH/day; 1200 mg. Test Cypionate; 600 mg. Deca Durabolin; 150 mg. Winstrol-V (50 mg. each M-W-F); 4 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; 5 x Clenbuterol tabs, 400 mg. caffeine tab (a.m. only)


Week #13: 6 iu's GH/day; 1200 mg. Test Cypionate; 600 mg. Deca Durabolin; 300 mg. Winstrol-V (100 mg. each M-W-F); 6 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; 2 x 20 mg. Nolvadex tabs/day; 5 x 25 mg. Ephedrine tab, 400 mg. caffeine tab (a.m. only)


Week #14: 6 iu's GH/day; 1500 mg. Test Cypionate; 600 mg. Deca Durabolin; 300 mg. Winstrol-V (100 mg. each M-W-F); 6 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; 2 x 20 mg. Nolvadex tabs/day; 6 x 25 mg. ephedrine tab, 400 mg. caffeine tab (a.m. only)


Week #15: off 6 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; 2 x 20 mg. Nolvadex tabs/day; 6 x 25 mg. ephedrine tab, 400 mg. caffeine tab (a.m. only)


**Week #16: off; 6 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; 2 x 20 mg. Nolvadex tabs/day; 10 x Clenbuterol tab (Sun, Mon, Tue only), 400 mg. caffeine tab (a.m. only)


**Day of contest was at the end of 16th Week.

[Cleanest Natural]

Nothing to do with you
You're a troll and we are following an interesting thread
Your pointless bullshit isn't wanted

you talk like your words actually carry any weight.. w8m8 might have bigger balls literally than you haha

fuck off you bloated fuck

[pillowtalk]

I'm 100x more woman than your mother .. fuckwit .. get off the retard drugs and go tend to your website

I can keep my word to Ron and not attack you .. I don't want to hurt your feelings and end up in TimeOut again .. but thanks for the vindication that you can't stop trolling me .. owning your mind makes me a slum lord ... please stop thinking about me I find you totally disgusting



Squadfather wannabe    .. it's quite telling how you have nothing else to do worthwhile in your life by seeing how much you are here and what you post ... you're a LOSER Gypsy twat .. but your kind are worthless so that's to be expected

If Hitler, had not pulled that right turn when Stalingrad, was on the verge of falling (& headed South with a large 'Panzer division'). Well, he would not be here to post at all.
I know what I will be dreaming of tonight, the alternate ending for WWII  

PT

[pillowtalk]

you talk like your words actually carry any weight.. w8m8 might have bigger balls literally than you haha

fuck off you bloated fuck

W8M8, is posting quality insider intel, & you??
Neigh on 20k posts into this account (how many have you had now??), & you have brought fuck all to the table.

What a sorry little untermenchen, you are...

PT

[The Wizard of Truth]

you talk like your words actually carry any weight.. w8m8 might have bigger balls literally than you haha

fuck off you bloated fuck

An 11stone long term unemployed rumanian
Do you realise this is a bodybuilding board?
You are 11stone at 6foot, 12stone full of grams of gear
That is all

[The_Iron_Disciple]

Thank you for the link W8M8.

[w8m8]

Thank you for the link W8M8.

you're welcome .. sorry I was not timely and can't link the archived original .. saying that .. I like seeing Prince's cycle also

he was a mountain of man in his time

[w8m8]

If Hitler, had not pulled that left turn when Stalingrad, was on the verge of falling. Well, he would not be here to post at all.
I know what I will be dreaming of tonight, the alternate ending for WWII  

PT

  .. sweet dreams

An 11stone long term unemployed rumanian
Do you realise this is a bodybuilding board?
You are 11stone at 6foot, 12stone full of grams of gear
That is all

don't waste your time .. he has nothing else .. this Getbig account is the most valuable thing he has .. his gimmick Winged Lion is the next most special thing he holds near and dear


he can't even get his own website to succeed .. his life is empty if he doesn't log in here and troll for attention .. jumping into threads to post something unrelated is the sign of a lonely man who craves response from another human .. sad innit

[Secret Stack]

this is a REAL pro's cycle. no adjustment to it. IT IS EXACTLY how it is written. no questions.

but! it was toward the start of "hanging it with the big boys on stage". i have no doubt things were doubled a few years later but this is true for the time...

also as you read it, it goes to show how much they dont give a shit about what they get their hands on. if it is available, theyll take it. take for example primotestan is schering test enanthate. but in the cycle is test enanthate with what looks like vet (75mgx3) anyway also! lol. he would have thought they were "2 different things". lol.

most are clueless. here..

3ml primotestan/wk = 750mg
4ml testosterone suspension in oil/wk = 260mg
3ml testosterone propionate/wk = 300mg
3ml testosterone enanthate/wk = 225mg

..............the above is the test only. then anabolics in same cycle;;

3ml nandralon/wk = 300mg
2ml boldenone/wk = 400mg

,,then orals in the same cycle

dbol 40mg/day = 280mg/wk
anadrol 100mg/day = 700mg/wk

total = 3,215mg/wk

Add GH @ 2iu and insulin 10iu after training only at this point.




knowing 100% the above, its a real shame dorian went the path he did in the new MD magazine. should have just kept the mouth closed because he has now lost alot of respect.