Obama Administration to Review All Deportation Cases, Apply DREAM Act

[Dos Equis]

   "The idea of doing things on my own is very tempting, I promise you, not just on immigration reform. But that's not how our system works. That's not how our democracy functions," Obama told the National Council of La Raza.
Obama: 'I need a dance partner' on immigration reform


IMMIGRATION REFORM
 
July 25, 2011|By Catherine E. Shoichet, CNN

President Barack Obama addresses the National Council of La Raza annual conference Monday in Washington.
America's immigration system is broken, but only a bipartisan political movement can fix it, President Barack Obama said Monday.

"The idea of doing things on my own is very tempting, I promise you, not just on immigration reform. But that's not how our system works. That's not how our democracy functions," Obama told the National Council of La Raza.

Speaking at the organization's annual conference in Washington, Obama said passing immigration reform measures will require support from both sides of the aisle in Congress.

"Let's be honest, I need a dance partner here, and the floor is empty," he said.

Audience members greeted Obama with a standing ovation, and responded to his discussion of immigration reform by chanting, "Yes you can, yes you can."

"I need you to keep building a movement for change outside of Washington, one they can't stop, one that's greater than this community," Obama told them.

The speech comes at a critical time for Obama, who is trying to drum up support among Latino voters in the run-up to the 2012 election.

"Feel free to keep the heat on me and the heat on Democrats. But here's the thing you should know, the Democrats and your president are with you, don't get confused about that," he said Monday.

La Raza is the largest national Latino civil rights and advocacy organization in the United States, and its meetings regularly draw top political leaders.

Its leader Monday praised Obama's efforts to help Latinos and lauded much of the president's work from the White House, particularly his appointment of Hilda Solis as labor secretary and Sonia Sotomayor as a Supreme Court justice.

"While we may not always agree, Hispanics do have a voice in the administration, and the Latino community does have the president's ear," said Janet Murguia, president of La Raza, which translates literally as "The Race."

But she went on to mention immigration, saying that "unfinished business" remains for Obama.

"Virtually everyone in this room has been affected by our nation's broken immigration system and the record number of deportations," she said.

Obama defended his administration's approach to deportations.

"I swore an oath to uphold the laws on the books. That doesn't mean I don't know very well the real pain and heartbreak that deportations cause. I share your concerns and I understand them," he said Monday. "We work every day to make sure we are enforcing flawed laws in the most humane possible way."

http://articles.cnn.com/2011-07-25/politics/obama.la.raza_1_immigration-reform-immigration-system-janet-murguia?_s=PM:POLITICS

[Soul Crusher]

Bachmann eating a corn dog is more pressing.   

[Soul Crusher]

Obama Administration Pledges to Reduce Deportations
Numbers USA ^ | August 18, 2011



The Obama Administration announced on Thursday that it will individually review the 300,000 cases of illegal aliens currently holding deportation orders in an effort to appease his pro-amnesty critics and last year's record number of deportations.

The Administration deported 400,000 illegal aliens last year -- less than half had been convicted for other crimes. Pres. Obama is pledging to halt deportations of non-criminal illegal aliens. Illegal aliens that are considered low-priority deportations will no longer be the focus, including young people who were brought to the U.S. as children, military veterans and spouses of military personnel.

"They will be applying common sense guidelines to make these decisions, like a person's ties and contributions to the community, their family relationships and military service record," White House Director of Intergovernmental Affairs (The White House Blog) "In the end, this means more immigration enforcement pressure where it counts the most, and less where it doesn't – that's the smartest way to follow the law while we stay focused on working with the Congress to fix it."

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

I've run out of adjectives.  

Obama Administration to Review All Deportation Cases, Apply DREAM Act-Style Criteria
By Judson Berger
Published August 18, 2011
FoxNews.com

The Obama administration announced Thursday that it would launch a case-by-case review of illegal immigrants slated for deportation, in a move that could grant a reprieve to so-called DREAM Act beneficiaries and thousands of others.

The DREAM Act is a proposal in Congress to give illegal immigrants who came to the U.S. as children a chance at legal status if they complete two years of college or military service. Though the bill has not passed, supporters and critics alike suggested Thursday's announcement could serve to unilaterally carry out its provisions.

A spokeswoman with the Federation for American Immigration Reform described the new policy as "blanket amnesty."

But Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano said in a letter to Senate Democrats that it would "enhance public safety" by focusing deportation efforts on those "who pose a threat."

Under the plan, DHS and the Department of Justice will review all cases in removal proceedings as well as any new cases to make sure those who are deported meet the kind of criteria established in a June 17 agency memo.

The memo from Immigration and Customs Enforcement Director John Morton instructed staff to consider 19 factors when exercising "prosecutorial discretion" -- or the discretion an ICE attorney has in deciding whether and how to pursue an immigration case. The list includes factors similar to those in the DREAM Act, like whether someone arrived in the U.S. as a "young child," is pursuing an education or has served in the military.

Thursday's announcement goes beyond the memo by establishing a process to flag and exempt certain illegal immigrants from deportation. A team of attorneys and officials will be tasked with reviewing the more than 300,000 cases in the system.

An ICE memo obtained by FoxNews.com said the effort would not provide "categorical relief for any group," but would try to prevent "low-priority" cases -- like those not involving convicted criminals -- from clogging the system.

Cecilia Munoz, White House director of intergovernmental affairs, wrote on the White House blog that the review would "clear out low-priority cases on a case-by-case basis and make more room to deport people who have been convicted of crimes or pose a security risk" -- while ensuring the low-priority cases are kept "out of the deportation pipeline in the first place."

Describing groups of people similar to those targeted in the DREAM Act, she said the low-priority list would include "individuals such as young people who were brought to this country as small children, and who know no other home," as well as "individuals such as military veterans and the spouses of active-duty military personnel."

She said that with more than 10 million people in the country illegally, the strategy is meant to focus limited resources on those who pose the greatest risk.
House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi and Senate Democratic Leader Harry Reid praised the decision.

"This new DHS directive will help prioritize our limited enforcement resources to focus on serious felons, gang members and individuals who are a national security threat rather than college students and veterans who have risked their lives for our country," Reid said in a statement. "I am especially pleased about the impact these new policies will have on those who would benefit from the DREAM Act. ... We lose a lot by sending them back to countries they do not know."

Reid said Congress should still pass immigration reform legislation.

Napolitano also stressed in her letter that the new process "will not alleviate the need for passage of the DREAM Act or for larger reforms."

But FAIR described the announcement as a complete overhaul of immigration law without approval by Congress.

"Having failed in the legislative process, the Obama administration has simply decided to usurp Congress's constitutional authority and implement an amnesty program for millions of illegal aliens," FAIR President Dan Stein said. "This step by the White House amounts to a complete abrogation of the president's duty to enforce the laws of the land and a huge breach of the public trust. ... In essence, the administration has declared that U.S. immigration is now virtually unlimited to anyone willing to try to enter -- and only those who commit violent felonies after arrival are subject to enforcement."

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/08/18/obama-administration-to-review-all-deportation-cases/

It cost 24,000 dollars to deport one person....I think its better to get rid of convicted felons first than to deport illegals that are paying taxes.  In fact, I actually support citizenship to any illegal immigrant that served in the military.  If they defended this country then they deserve to be U.S. citizens...like Rohan Coombs. 





Rohan Coombs bravely fought for the United States and even now that he is being silently pushed out of the country he fought for he still salutes the flag and will always think of himself as a U.S. citizen.
Description   
Rohan Coombs; US Marine,Persian Gulf war Veteran,Jamaica
Rohan came to America with his mom and sisters from Jamaica when he was only 9 years old. Rohan graduated from high school in New York and promptly joined the military to serve the country he loved.
Rohan joined the marines in 1988 and was deployed to Iraq a few years later. While in the military Rohan filed for his citizenship but was told “You are property of the United States Government, that makes you a citizen”. No further action was taken on Rohan’s part because he wasn’t going to second guess his commanding officer.
It wasn’t until Rohan got out of the military with an honorable discharge that things started to go downhill for him. Rohan suffers from PTSD and was unable to recognize it. He started using marijuana to ease the suffering from what he saw in Iraq during combat. During this time his wife had passed away 4 days before Christmas. This was devastating to Rohan and like his PTSD he did not seek help with dealing with his wife’s death.
He has been told he was a citizen for saying the oath to the military and for being told he was property of the U.S. and that made him a citizen. Now the judge in his case is telling him he is not a citizen and that he should be deported back to a country he hasn’t been to in over 30 years.

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It cost 24,000 dollars to deport one person....I think its better to get rid of convicted felons first than to deport illegals that are paying taxes.  In fact, I actually support citizenship to any illegal immigrant that served in the military.  If they defended this country then they deserve to be U.S. citizens.

how many illegal immigrants serve in the armed forces vince?

please cite your sources

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

how many illegal immigrants serve in the armed forces vince?

please cite your sources

As of May 2010, there was 16,966 non-citizens right now on active duty serving in the military according to the Pentagon....prob more by now.


I've always believed that military service should qualify for citizenship.  If an non citizen dies during combat, he's automatically given citizenship and a military funeral. 

Being in the military means you're willing to die for the United States....if that's not a person who deserves to be a US citizen, then who is??? 

[Soul Crusher]

Barack Obama - Amnesty For Illegal Immigrants - Ram It Down Our Throats
The American Dream ^ | 8-19-2011
Posted on August 19, 2011 7:35:46 PM EDT by blam

Barack Obama Cannot Get Congress To Pass Amnesty For Illegal Immigrants So Now He Is Just Going To Ram It Down Our Throats Any Way That He Can

August 19, 2011

If you are an illegal immigrant and you have not been arrested for committing a crime, the odds that you will ever be deported have now gone way, way down. With the Republicans in control of the House of Representatives, Barack Obama knows that he simply is not going to be able to get amnesty for illegal immigrants passed by Congress.
But instead of giving up, Obama has decided to ram amnesty for illegal immigrants down our throats any way that he can. The head of the Department of Homeland Security, Janet Napolitano, has announced that there will now be a case-by-case review of all deportation cases involving illegal immigrants. Those involving "criminals" will be prioritized and almost all the rest will be thrown out. In essence, this is "backdoor amnesty" for illegal immigrants and it also represents a stunning admission by the Obama administration that it is simply going to refuse to enforce our immigration laws.

Yes, deportation cases for criminals should be moved to the top of the list, but openly announcing that almost all other illegal immigrants will not be deported is just going to encourage millions more illegal immigrants to come pouring in to this country.

Government officials have now been given a list of 19 factors to use when deciding whether to use "prosecutorial discretion" in deportation cases.

Essentially, what is going to happen now is that illegal immigrants are going to get to stay in the United States if any of the following apply....

-arrival in the U.S. as a young child

-actively "pursuing an education"

-serving or served in the U.S. military

-spouse of someone in the U.S. military

-18 years old or younger

-"elderly"

-pregnant or nursing

-victim of a "serious crime"

-serious disability or health problem

-caring for a family member with a serious disability or health problem

As you can see, these categories are so broad that almost all illegal immigrants will be able to fit into at least one of them.

Now we are not only going to have "anchor babies", we are also going to have "anchor pregnancies". Millions of women that want to come to this country will soon learn that all they have to do is to somehow get inside our borders and get pregnant and they will be golden. With millions upon millions of promiscuous American men running around, that should not be too hard to do.

Janet Napolitano says that she wants to primarily focus on deporting those that have been convicted of a crime or that pose a "security risk".

But isn't coming into this country illegally a crime?

The funny thing is that many of the elements of this new policy seem to have been lifted almost directly out of the DREAM Act. But the Obama administration knows that passage of the DREAM Act is very unlikely at this point so now it is basically imposing amnesty for illegal immigrants by executive fiat.

Quite a few prominent politicians are already expressing outrage. For example, the following is how Arizona Governor Jan Brewer characterizes this new plan by the Obama administration....

"This plan amounts to backdoor amnesty for hundreds of thousands -- if not millions -- of illegal aliens"

Brewer also feels that Obama needs to be reminded that he is not a king that gets to do whatever he wants.....

"We need to remind President Obama that we elected a president that serves beneath the law and did not anoint a king that is above the law."

Sadly, this is a pattern that we are starting to see with Obama. If there is a law that he does not like, he just declares that he is not going to enforce it and everyone applauds.

People like Obama love to talk about "the rule of law", but whenever it becomes inconvenient for them they quickly discard it.

Dan Stein, the President of the Federation for American Immigration Reform, says that this new policy will essentially open up the floodgates for more illegal immigration....

"In essence, the administration has declared that U.S. immigration is now virtually unlimited to anyone willing to try to enter and only those who commit violent felonies after arrival are subject to enforcement." Basically, by announcing this policy so openly, the Obama administration has given a huge, flashing green light to millions of potential illegal immigrants.

Obama is also openly pandering for votes in 2012. He is going to need all the help he can get to get re-elected, and this move will definitely get the radical pro-illegal immigration forces on his side.

But refusing to enforce the law in order to get a voting block on your side is no way to run a country.

Now Obama will almost certainly claim that anyone that is for enforcing our immigration laws is against Hispanic people.

But that is complete and utter nonsense. The truth is that God created all of us and we are all equally valuable in His eyes.

That is why the Declaration of Independence says that "all men are created equal".

All people should be loved and all people have great value.

We are a nation of immigrants and we will always need legal immigration.

But what we have now is a system that does not make sense at all. Right now, legal immigrants have to pay outrageous fees and go through months of hell in order to do things legally, and illegal immigrants just have to hop the border and start enjoying the free ride.

Today, far more immigrants move into the United States illegally than come in through the legal process. Now, thanks to Obama, even more people are going to come pouring in illegally.

There is nothing wrong with wanting everyone to come in through the front door.

In fact, it is the only thing that makes sense.

Right now millions upon millions of criminals, drug dealers and gang members are pouring across our poorly guarded border with Mexico. Large numbers of welfare parasites and people with dangerous diseases are also coming across on a regular basis.

Illegal immigration costs our economy billions upon billions of dollars. Illegal immigrants pay next to nothing in taxes, but they have no problem receiving tens of billions of dollars worth of free education benefits, free health care benefits, free housing assistance and free food stamp benefits.

According to a review of U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics and Census Bureau data, legal and illegal immigrants gained over a million additional jobs between 2008 and 2010 even as millions of American citizens were losing their jobs during that same time period.

The cost of educating the children of illegal immigrants is staggering. It is estimated that U.S. taxpayers spend $12,000,000,000 a year on primary and secondary school education for the children of illegal immigrants.

So is it really unreasonable to ask the federal government to protect our borders, enforce our laws and require that all immigrants come in through the front door?

Well, that may seem like common sense to many of us, but unfortunately the Obama administration has chosen another direction.

So get ready for another huge wave of illegal immigrants.

After word of this new policy gets around, millions of them are going to be headed our way.

[240 is Back]

Marcus Bachmann eating a corn dog is more disturbing.   

Agreed.

[Soul Crusher]

That's why you are a far left lib and voted for obama.  Its called priorities.

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That's why you are a far left lib and voted for obama.  Its called priorities.

Agreed.  I remember when I started a thread complaining about Laura Bush's choice of christmas decorations for the White house Christmas tree. 

I was a total d-bag to do so.  I didn't want to talk about issues that mattered.  my bad.

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Hasn't the Obama administration deported more people that Bush or any other prior administration?

Hasn't the Obama administration focused on those with criminal backgrounds?

According to the Washington Post,  "the pace of company audits has roughly quadrupled since President George W. Bush's final year in office."

Seems like progress to me

 

[Dos Equis]

It cost 24,000 dollars to deport one person....I think its better to get rid of convicted felons first than to deport illegals that are paying taxes.  In fact, I actually support citizenship to any illegal immigrant that served in the military.  If they defended this country then they deserve to be U.S. citizens...like Rohan Coombs. 





Rohan Coombs bravely fought for the United States and even now that he is being silently pushed out of the country he fought for he still salutes the flag and will always think of himself as a U.S. citizen.
Description   
Rohan Coombs; US Marine,Persian Gulf war Veteran,Jamaica
Rohan came to America with his mom and sisters from Jamaica when he was only 9 years old. Rohan graduated from high school in New York and promptly joined the military to serve the country he loved.
Rohan joined the marines in 1988 and was deployed to Iraq a few years later. While in the military Rohan filed for his citizenship but was told “You are property of the United States Government, that makes you a citizen”. No further action was taken on Rohan’s part because he wasn’t going to second guess his commanding officer.
It wasn’t until Rohan got out of the military with an honorable discharge that things started to go downhill for him. Rohan suffers from PTSD and was unable to recognize it. He started using marijuana to ease the suffering from what he saw in Iraq during combat. During this time his wife had passed away 4 days before Christmas. This was devastating to Rohan and like his PTSD he did not seek help with dealing with his wife’s death.
He has been told he was a citizen for saying the oath to the military and for being told he was property of the U.S. and that made him a citizen. Now the judge in his case is telling him he is not a citizen and that he should be deported back to a country he hasn’t been to in over 30 years.

Oh please.  I don't care if an illegal lies his way into the military.  He still needs to be deported.  Go get in line behind all those immigrants who are doing it the right way. 

[Dos Equis]

As of May 2010, there was 16,966 non-citizens right now on active duty serving in the military according to the Pentagon....prob more by now.


I've always believed that military service should qualify for citizenship.  If an non citizen dies during combat, he's automatically given citizenship and a military funeral. 

Being in the military means you're willing to die for the United States....if that's not a person who deserves to be a US citizen, then who is??? 

That doesn't answer his question.  He asked about illegals. 

[Dos Equis]

Wouldn't surprise if someone from the Obama administration complained.   

Facebook Apologizes for Deleting Arizona Governor's Post
Published August 20, 2011
FoxNews.com

Facebook issued an apology Saturday for deleting a post by Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer that criticized President Obama over his administration's new policy on prioritizing deportations of illegal immigrants.
Brewer's picture and a statement that accompanied it were removed Friday from Facebook, apparently because they "violated Facebook community standards."

"The post was removed in error," Andrew Noyes, Manager of Public Policy Communications at Facebook said in a statement. "We apologize for any inconvenience."

Before the photo's removal from the popular social networking site, it had garnered over 10,000 "likes" and comments, Brewer said in a follow-up post that included a reprint of Thursday's original deleted post.

Brewer, one of the president's toughest critics on border policy, said the administration's recent move to launch a case-by-case review of illegal immigrants slated for deportation amounts to an immigration overhaul "via executive fiat."

"This plan amounts to backdoor amnesty for hundreds of thousands -- if not millions -- of illegal aliens," the Republican governor said in a written statement. "We need to remind President Obama that we elected a president that serves beneath the law and did not anoint a king that is above the law."

According to Facebook policy, moderators remove posts when they fall under the categories of threat, bullying and harassment, hate speech, graphic violence, sex and nudity, theft, vandalism or fraud, identity and privacy, intellectual property, phishing and spam.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/08/20/facebook-apologizes-for-deleting-arizona-governors-photo-criticizing-obama/

[Soul Crusher]

Obama’s defense of lawlessness
Daily Caller ^ | 08/22/2011 | Jedediah Bila



Why is it so hard for the Obama administration to comprehend the word “illegal”? If the Campaigner-in-Chief can handle a great big word like “redistribution,” what is it about “illegal” that he just can’t get?

As reported by the Heritage Foundation blog The Foundry, last week’s announcement by the Department of Homeland Security would essentially “halt all deportation proceedings against illegal immigrants who are attending school, have family in the military or are primarily responsible for other family members’ care, and allow them to apply for work permits.” Many Americans with some common sense — and respect for this country’s laws—were once again left scratching their heads.

“But they’re still illegal,” hit my email inbox on Friday. “They still broke the law. So why is that okay to President Obama?” wrote a self-proclaimed “moderate.”

It’s okay to our president because it suits his political needs for it to be so. President Obama sees an opportunity to pander to a 2012 voting block. And he’s not wasting any time.

In a statement released in Spanish on barackobama.com on Thursday, National Policy Director Katherine Archuleta wrote that the policy “hará que nuestro sistema de inmigración sea más justo e inteligente” (will make our immigration system more fair and intelligent). Really, Katherine? Rewarding lawbreakers doesn’t sound fair or intelligent to me, but to each her own.

Archuleta added, “Los candidatos a la presidencia republicanos son idénticos a los republicanos en el Congreso que han impedido cambios lógicos en cada oportunidad. En el debate Republicano de la semana pasada en Iowa, los candidatos únicamente hablaron de muros—como si muros más altos y estrechos mágicamente pudieran resolver este problema complejo.” (The Republican presidential candidates are identical to the Republicans in Congress that have prevented logical changes at every opportunity. In the Republican debate last week in Iowa, the candidates only spoke of walls — as if higher and narrower walls could magically solve this complex problem.)

What can you take away from this? Plenty.

First off, the apple doesn’t fall far from the tree in the Obama administration. It appears that Archuleta has our President’s blame game down to a science. Clearly President Obama’s lack of leadership on immigration is the fault of Republicans! (even though he operated with a Democrat Congress for two years). Clearly Republicans are simply obsessed with walls! (a.k.a. securing the border and upholding the Constitution).

Sometimes you just have to laugh.

Secondly, is this President Obama’s version of outreach to the Hispanic community? Blaming Republicans for upholding our laws? Condoning lawbreaking? Perhaps he should take some time to think about the millions of hard-working Hispanic Americans who reside in this country legally, who enrich our culture and economy, and who have as little patience for lawlessness as I do.

President Obama, real leaders don’t play the blame game; they take responsibility for what they have and haven’t done. Real leaders don’t buck the law; they uphold it.

And real leaders are fired up to challenge you in 2012.

[Dos Equis]

California "Dream Act" approved for illegal immigrants
By Alex Dobuzinskis
LOS ANGELES | Mon Jul 25, 2011

(Reuters) - California Governor Jerry Brown signed into law on Monday a bill allowing illegal immigrants to receive privately funded scholarships to attend the state's public colleges and universities.

The bill, dubbed the California Dream Act, passed the state Legislature earlier this month and aims at helping illegal immigrants who earned a diploma after attending at least three years of high school in the state.

Enactment of the California measure came three days after opponents of a similar law in Maryland collected enough signatures to force a state referendum seeking its repeal.

"At the end of the day, if we're going to continue as a powerful, equal-opportunity society, we're going to have to invest in our people," Brown, a Democrat, said at the signing ceremony in the library of a Los Angeles community college.

The California law is named after national legislation in Congress to give young, undocumented immigrants who have lived in the United States for at least five years a pathway to citizenship through college or military service.

The federal bill failed to win passage in December 2010, and its chances have dimmed since a newly elected Republican majority took control of the House of Representatives.

Critics say the California Dream Act gives illegal immigrants a false promise because their status will not change after graduating from college and they will remain unable to find legal employment. Former Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger, a Republican, vetoed an earlier version of the bill last year.

But Julian Rivera, 20, a student at the University of California at Berkeley who entered the United States illegally with his parents at age 12 from Mexico, said the measure could make it easier those like him to afford to stay in school.

"It doesn't matter where you come from, it doesn't matter what your background is, it just matters that you have passion for something and you want to do it," he said. "This is a country that has given us that freedom."

OPPOSING "THE DREAM"

Patrick McDonough, a Republican member of the Maryland House of Delegates who helped lead the petition drive for the repeal initiative there, said U.S. citizens who are struggling to pay for college should not have to compete with illegal immigrants for scarce financial resources.

"People would say, 'Why should we, when we're having tough economic times ourselves, pay for someone who is here illegally?'" he said.

The new California law is fairly limited in scope, making undocumented students who qualify eligible for private scholarships. A separate bill under consideration in the legislature would allow illegal immigrants to seek publicly funded scholarships as well.

State law already allows illegal immigrants who qualify for admission to a four-year state university to pay in-state tuition rather than the more expensive out-of-state tuition rate. But four-year institutions are still beyond reach for many undocumented students without financial aid.

Twelve other states also grant in-state tuition eligibility to illegal immigrants based on attendance and graduation from a state high school, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures.

Arizona, Colorado, Georgia, South Carolina and Indiana have laws barring illegal immigrants from in-state tuition benefits.

Passage of legislation in California and Maryland to extend private scholarships to illegal immigrants comes as a number of states, led by Arizona, have taken steps to crack down on the undocumented.

"You're going to see the red states go more the Arizona approach and blue states the California Dream Act approach," said John Skrentny, director of the Center for Comparative Immigration Studies at University of California, San Diego.

(Reporting by Alex Dobuzinskis; Editing by Steve Gorman and Cynthia Johnston)

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/07/26/us-usa-california-dream-idUSTRE76O6FV20110726

[Emmortal]

Might as well make them all citizens so they can vote Democratic.

[Dos Equis]

Why even have immigration laws?   

[Emmortal]

Why even have immigration laws?   

We essentially don't.

Illegals can use our health care system.
Illegals can receive meidcaid.
Illegals can sue employers for mistreatement.
Illegals can get government grants and loans for school.
Illegals can get car insurance in many states.
Illegals can buy guns.
Illegals can vote.
Illegals can buy homes and own cars.

There's no point in becoming a citizen or get your green card.

[Dos Equis]

We essentially don't.

Illegals can use our health care system.
Illegals can receive meidcaid.
Illegals can sue employers for mistreatement.
Illegals can get government grants and loans for school.
Illegals can get car insurance in many states.
Illegals can buy guns.
Illegals can vote.
Illegals can buy homes and own cars.

There's no point in becoming a citizen or get your green card.

   Pretty sobering. 

Hadn't really thought about voting. 

Illegal Immigrants Are Voting in American Elections
Hans A. von Spakovsky   
August 4th 2008

In 2005, the U.S. Government Accountability Office found that up to 3 percent of the 30,000 individuals called for jury duty from voter registration rolls over a two-year period in just one U.S. district court were not U.S. citizens. While that may not seem like many, just 3 percent of registered voters would have been more than enough to provide the winning presiden­tial vote margin in Florida in 2000. Indeed, the Cen­sus Bureau estimates that there are over a million illegal aliens in Florida, and the U.S. Department of Justice (DOJ) has prosecuted more non-citizen voting cases in Florida than in any other state.

. . .

http://www.thecuttingedgenews.com/index.php?article=691

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Joey Vento: Assimilation warrior
By Michelle Malkin  •  August 26, 2011

Blunt. Brash. Bold. Politically incorrect. Unapologetically patriotic. Philadelphia cheese-steak king Joey Vento was all that and a side of freedom fries. The 71-year-old owner of Geno’s Steaks died of a heart attack this week, but he reignited a national debate over radical multiculturalism that will burn for years to come.

Five years ago, Vento garnered national headlines when a local newspaper profiled his outspoken views on customers who couldn’t speak English. He hung a sign in his order window that read: “This is America. When ordering, speak English.” Though he never turned anyone away, the grandson of Italian immigrants informed hungry patrons that he reserved the “right to refuse service” to those he couldn’t understand.

No menus in 10 different languages. No dumbed-down pictographs for the idiocracy. The choice at Geno’s is simple: Sink or swim. Learn English or eat somewhere else. “If you can’t tell me what you want, I can’t serve you,” Vento told the Philadelphia Inquirer. “It’s up to you. If you can’t read, if you can’t say the word ‘cheese,’ how can I communicate with you — and why should I have to bend? I got a business to run.”

Vento’s refusal to coddle triggered a tsunami of complaints from self-appointed civil rights leaders. The ululations of the aggrieved resounded from sea to whining sea.

For exercising his constitutionally protected free speech, both the Philadelphia City Council and Philadelphia Human Relations Commission launched political inquisitions against Vento. Yes, it really happened in the home of Independence Hall. Members of the government bodies demanded that Vento remove his bald eagle-adorned sign and threatened to revoke his business license. After 21 months of investigation, a marathon seven-hour hearing and hysterical testimony likening his innocuous 4-inch-by-9-inch sign to “Jim Crow laws,” he was cleared of discrimination charges.

Plainspoken as ever, Vento understood full well why the multi-culti mob wanted to gag him: “I say what everybody’s thinking but is afraid to say.”

As a fellow Philly-born loudmouth, I cheered Vento on for years during his battles with the anti-assimilationists. He weathered the same old slings, arrows and accusations of being a “racist,” “xenophobe,” “nativist” and immigrant-basher — despite the fact that generations of assimilated immigrants and naturalized Americans agree with him. The vast majority of Americans support English as the official language of the United States. Latino parents in California revolted against “bilingual education” mandates that stuck their kids in Spanish-only classes.

Generations of successful immigrant families in America know English is the language of success, not the language of oppression. Yet, politicians in both parties have pandered ceaselessly to the language-Balkanizers.

The Clinton administration gave us Executive Order 13166, effectively requiring all government agencies to provide translations into any language on demand. Rather than rescind the order, the Bush administration went after localities and forced them to provide foreign language materials. In 2004, the Bush administration ordered Harris County, Texas, to provide all voter registration and election information and supplies, including the voting machine ballot, in Vietnamese, as well as English and Spanish.

Under the Obama administration, the Department of Justice threatened to cut off federal funding to the state of Oklahoma over a state constitutional amendment proposal to designate English as its official language. The Obama DOJ also has ordered my home state of Colorado to protect the interests of “language minority populations” by funding free translators for any foreigners — legal or illegal — who sue in civil cases here. In the same vein, the Philadelphia Human Rights Commission that tried to silence Vento distributes pamphlets asking “Are you a victim of discrimination?” in seven languages.

“Progressive” politicians pandering for votes treat non-English speakers as hopeless victims of white hegemony, instead of beneficiaries of the American dream. By contrast, small-business man Joey Vento promoted a common culture, a common tongue and common sense. We need more assimilation warriors like him to challenge the infantilizing Babel Lobby.

http://michellemalkin.com/2011/08/26/joey-vento-assimilation-warrior/

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

That doesn't answer his question.  He asked about illegals. 

And I answered it...as of 2010 there were 16,966 in active duty. 

[Dos Equis]

And I answered it...as of 2010 there were 16,966 in active duty. 

No you didn't.  You said "non-citizens."  You can be a "non-citizen" and serve in the military.  He was asking illegals.  Your figure is probably resident aliens. 

[240 is Back]

You said "non-citizens."  You can be a "non-citizen" and serve in the military. 

Question: Can a non-U.S. Citizen join the United States Military?
Answer: Yes. A non-citizen can enlist in the military. However, federal law prohibits non-citizens from becoming commission or warrant officers.
In order for a non-citizen to enlist in the military, he/she must first be a legal immigrant (with a green card), permamently residing in the United States. It's important to note that the military cannot and will not assist in the immigration process. One must immigrate first, using normal immigration quotas and procedures, and -- once they've established an address in the United States -- they can find a recruiter's office and apply for enlistment.

http://usmilitary.about.com/library/weekly/aa082701a.htm

[Soul Crusher]

Obama’s Illegal Move On Immigration [Why Doesn't Congress Challenge This In Court?]
Washington Post ^ | September 03, 2011 | David B. Rivkin Jr. and Lee A. Casey
Posted on September 4, 2011 6:46:22 PM EDT by Steelfish

Obama’s Illegal Move On Immigration

By David B. Rivkin Jr. and Lee A. Casey

Only Congress has constitutional authority to establish U.S. immigration policy, and fundamental reform requires legislative action. Thus the administration’s recent announcement that deportation will be sought only for undocumented immigrants who have committed crimes in the United States violates the separation of powers and is unconstitutional.

No president, of course, can hope to expel every undocumented person in the United States — they number perhaps upward of 11 million people. Human and financial resources to identify, apprehend, process and promptly deport millions have been lacking for years as has, arguably, the political will to do so. In this environment, immigration enforcement authorities, under administrations of both parties, have performed as best they could given their resources. Still, millions have been deported over the years. And while many had been convicted of serious criminal offenses, most deportees have not been in that category.

The policy that Obama unveiled last month differs fundamentally from the spotty immigration enforcement records of previous presidents. The administration indicated that, henceforth, deportation will be focused solely on illegal immigrants who have criminal records and that no enforcement resources will be expended on those who do not pose a threat to public safety. The effect is that undocumented individuals who have avoided apprehension at the border and not been convicted of a serious offense since arriving to the United States will no longer face the prospect of deportation, the most basic means of immigration enforcement.

This goes far beyond merely prioritizing the use of limited immigration enforcement resources. And it exceeds the president’s constitutional authority by, in effect, suspending operation of the immigration laws with respect to a very large and identifiable class of offenders.

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