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Re: Romney plans to quadruple size of Calif. home
« Reply #25 on: August 24, 2011, 08:15:10 AM »
What about stem cell research, dario?

Who gives a fuck !  

You have obama shutting down fraud probes on wall street banks who helped cause the mess we are in and you worry about this irrelvent crap?  

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Re: Romney plans to quadruple size of Calif. home
« Reply #26 on: August 24, 2011, 08:18:23 AM »
Who gives a fuck ! 

You're a healthy 30-something dude today.

Tell me you don't give a shit about the benefits of stem cells when you're 73 and you get sick.


Stem cell research can potentially help treat a range of medical problems. It could lead humanity closer to better treatment and possibly cure a number of diseases:


•Parkinson’s Disease


•Alzheimer’s Disease


•Heart Diseases, Stroke and Diabetes (Type 1)


•Birth Defects


•Spinal Cord Injuries


•Replace or Repair Damaged Organs


•Reduced Risk of Transplantation (You could possibly get a copy of your own heart in a heart-transplantation in the future


•Stem cells may play a major role in cancer

Better treatment of these diseases could also give significant social benefits for individuals and economic gains for society

Read more: http://www.experiment-resources.com/stem-cell-pros-and-cons.html#ixzz1VxZh6k1E

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Re: Romney plans to quadruple size of Calif. home
« Reply #27 on: August 24, 2011, 08:19:16 AM »
What about stem cell research, dario?

Still bringing up this ridiculous canard?

The only type of stem cell research that Christians oppose is EMBRYONIC stem cell research, which just so happens to be the one type that hasn't cure or treated JACK!!

At last count, Adult Stem Cell Research - 74, Embryonic Stem Cell Research - ZERO.

As I mentioned the last time this issue came up, here's a guy who's doing scientific breakthroughs with stem cells from baby teeth. And, get this....HE'S A CREATIONIST!!!!

http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/am/v2/n1/babytooth



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Re: Romney plans to quadruple size of Calif. home
« Reply #28 on: August 24, 2011, 08:21:11 AM »
stem cells are the perfect example of a technology which could allow americans to live longer, lower national healthcare costs, and boost our national economy in a MAJOR war.  Imagine the rest of the world lining up at US clinics for some new magical therapy for organ translplants that only american ingenuity can deliver, thanks to stem research?

There may be other things down the road.  Maybe we'll hear about them, maybe not.  Any leader who will stand in the way of curing alzheimers because of what a man-made book says = shouldn't be president.  Sorry.

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Re: Romney plans to quadruple size of Calif. home
« Reply #29 on: August 24, 2011, 08:22:46 AM »
I'm sure the first gasoline-driven vehicle or heart stint was a FAIL too.

But giving scientists and inventors the ability to fail a few hundred time before they find the right formulaq = the way to go.

Reminds me of that close-minded patent officer who, in 1898, announced proudly that everything which could be invented had been invented.  His great-grandkids mock him while surfing getbig on their iphone.

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Re: Romney plans to quadruple size of Calif. home
« Reply #30 on: August 24, 2011, 08:23:24 AM »
stem cells are the perfect example of a technology which could allow americans to live longer, lower national healthcare costs, and boost our national economy in a MAJOR war.  Imagine the rest of the world lining up at US clinics for some new magical therapy for organ translplants that only american ingenuity can deliver, thanks to stem research?

There may be other things down the road.  Maybe we'll hear about them, maybe not.  Any leader who will stand in the way of curing alzheimers because of what a man-made book says = shouldn't be president.  Sorry.

Once again, you are PURPOSELY ignoring the fact that Christians are IN FAVOR of Adult stem cell research.

What part of "Adult Stem Cell Research - 74, Embryonic Stem Cell Research - ZERO" don't you get?

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Re: Romney plans to quadruple size of Calif. home
« Reply #31 on: August 24, 2011, 08:24:20 AM »
240 - stop the charade.   Just admit your blind, unquestioning, unbending, unaltering, never faltering, devotion to Obama and shit for brains left he represents.  


Stem Cells is a non issue relative to what is going on now.  

But oh yeah, lets focus on the most idiotic fucking thing and avoid the 900lbs gorrillas all over the room because it makes the messiah look like the dirty ghetto thug leech, looter, and flash mobbing wretch look worse for 2012.  

Nice.    

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Re: Romney plans to quadruple size of Calif. home
« Reply #32 on: August 24, 2011, 08:25:07 AM »
240,

Aren't you a Ron Paul supporter?

FYI Ron Paul doesn't support embryonic stem cell research either....

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Re: Romney plans to quadruple size of Calif. home
« Reply #33 on: August 24, 2011, 08:25:59 AM »
I'm sure the first gasoline-driven vehicle or heart stint was a FAIL too.

But giving scientists and inventors the ability to fail a few hundred time before they find the right formulaq = the way to go.

Reminds me of that close-minded patent officer who, in 1898, announced proudly that everything which could be invented had been invented.  His great-grandkids mock him while surfing getbig on their iphone.

The bottom line is that THERE IS NO NEED for embryonic stem cell research, because adult cells get the job done and have been for quite some time.

Other countries have funded it for DECADES, but they haven't produced SQUAT. Why not stick with what works, unless there is an ulterior motive for using embryonic stem cells?

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Re: Romney plans to quadruple size of Calif. home
« Reply #34 on: August 24, 2011, 08:28:05 AM »
You're a healthy 30-something dude today.

Tell me you don't give a shit about the benefits of stem cells when you're 73 and you get sick.


Stem cell research can potentially help treat a range of medical problems. It could lead humanity closer to better treatment and possibly cure a number of diseases:


•Parkinson’s Disease


•Alzheimer’s Disease


•Heart Diseases, Stroke and Diabetes (Type 1)


•Birth Defects


•Spinal Cord Injuries


•Replace or Repair Damaged Organs


•Reduced Risk of Transplantation (You could possibly get a copy of your own heart in a heart-transplantation in the future


•Stem cells may play a major role in cancer

Better treatment of these diseases could also give significant social benefits for individuals and economic gains for society

Read more: http://www.experiment-resources.com/stem-cell-pros-and-cons.html#ixzz1VxZh6k1E

Nearly ALL of these are or can be treated with ADULT stem cells; NONE have been treated with embryonic ones. But don't take my word for it.

Cancers:

# Brain Cancer
# Retinoblastoma
# Ovarian Cancer
# Skin Cancer: Merkel Cell Carcinoma
# Testicular Cancer
# Tumors abdominal organs Lymphoma
# Non-Hodgkin's lymphoma
# Hodgkin's Lymphoma
# Acute Lymphoblastic Leukemia
# Acute Myelogenous Leukemia
# Chronic Myelogenous Leukemia
# Juvenile Myelomonocytic Leukemia
# Chronic Myelomonocytic Leukemia
# Cancer of the lymph nodes: Angioimmunoblastic Lymphadenopathy
# Multiple Myeloma
# Myelodysplasia
# Breast Cancer
# Neuroblastoma
# Renal Cell Carcinoma
# Various Solid Tumors
# Soft Tissue Sarcoma
# Ewing's Sarcoma
# Waldenstrom's macroglobulinemia
# Hemophagocytic lymphohistiocytosis
# POEMS syndrome
# Myelofibrosis

Auto-Immune Diseases
# Diabetes Type I (Juvenile)
# Systemic Lupus
# Sjogren's Syndrome
# Myasthenia
# Autoimmune Cytopenia
# Scleromyxedema
# Scleroderma
# Crohn's Disease
# Behcet's Disease
# Rheumatoid Arthritis
# Juvenile Arthritis
# Multiple Sclerosis
# Polychondritis
# Systemic Vasculitis
# Alopecia Universalis
# Buerger's Disease

Cardiovascular
# Acute Heart Damage
# Chronic Coronary Artery Disease

Ocular
# Corneal regeneration

Immunodeficiencies
# Severe Combined Immunodeficiency Syndrome
# X-linked Lymphoproliferative Syndrome
# X-linked Hyper immunoglobulin M Syndrome

Neural Degenerative Diseases and Injuries
# Parkinson's Disease
# Spinal Cord Injury
# Stroke Damage

Anemias and Other Blood Conditions
# Sickle Cell Anemia
# Sideroblastic Anemia
# Aplastic Anemia
# Red Cell Aplasia
# Amegakaryocytic Thrombocytopenia
# Thalassemia
# Primary Amyloidosis
# Diamond Blackfan Anemia
# Fanconi's Anemia
# Chronic Epstein-Barr Infection

Wounds and Injuries
# Limb Gangrene
# Surface Wound Healing
# Jawbone Replacement
# Skull Bone Repair

Other Metabolic Disorders
# Hurler's Syndrome
# Osteogenesis Imperfecta
# Krabbe Leukodystrophy
# Osteopetrosis
# Cerebral X-Linked Adrenoleukodystrophy

Liver Disease
# Chronic Liver Failure
# Liver Cirrhosis

Bladder Disease
# End-Stage Bladder Disease


http://www.stemcellresearch.org/facts/treatments.htm

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Re: Romney plans to quadruple size of Calif. home
« Reply #35 on: August 24, 2011, 08:30:05 AM »
I guess Ron Paul just lost 240's vote, as Paul does not support embryonic stem cell research either....

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Re: Romney plans to quadruple size of Calif. home
« Reply #36 on: August 24, 2011, 08:30:36 AM »
240,

Aren't you a Ron Paul supporter?

FYI Ron Paul doesn't support embryonic stem cell research either....

240 is lying.  other than guns - 240 and RP are polar opposites on every issue.  

240 just like when RP trashes other repubs as a way to prop up obama.  

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Re: Romney plans to quadruple size of Calif. home
« Reply #37 on: August 24, 2011, 08:33:22 AM »
240 - stop the charade.   Just admit your blind, unquestioning, unbending, unaltering, never faltering, devotion to Obama and shit for brains left he represents.  


Stem Cells is a non issue relative to what is going on now.  

But oh yeah, lets focus on the most idiotic fucking thing and avoid the 900lbs gorrillas all over the room because it makes the messiah look like the dirty ghetto thug leech, looter, and flash mobbing wretch look worse for 2012.  

Nice.    

As I said earlier, the top issues are:

1 - The economy
2 - Jobs
3 - Repeat 1 & 2

But, the card-carrying members of TK (and the left-winged goofies in the media) are now focused on anything and everything BUT those items, because their golden boy, Obama, is RUSTING before their very eyes.

The reason the lefties are patting Huntsman on the head is that he's probably the ONLY Republican Obama can beat, at this point. Basically, he's a limp-wristed RINO. Perry, Bachmann, and even (to a lesser degree) Romney combine both the fiscal and social issues together, focusing primarily on the former without tossing the latter to the side.

That's why the goofies are all bent out of shape about global warming, evolution, and the rest.

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Re: Romney plans to quadruple size of Calif. home
« Reply #38 on: August 24, 2011, 09:22:33 AM »
This isn't political news, this is akin to 333's nonsense attacks. 
Abandon every hope...

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Re: Romney plans to quadruple size of Calif. home
« Reply #39 on: August 24, 2011, 09:25:27 AM »
Once again, you are PURPOSELY ignoring the fact that Christians are IN FAVOR of Adult stem cell research.

What part of "Adult Stem Cell Research - 74, Embryonic Stem Cell Research - ZERO" don't you get?

As usual once the facts come out, 240 disappears.

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Re: Romney plans to quadruple size of Calif. home
« Reply #40 on: August 24, 2011, 09:26:27 AM »
This isn't political news, this is akin to 333's nonsense attacks. 

Difference is that i admit to launching petty attacks on the two looters, grifters, and flash mobbers in the WH. 

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Re: Romney plans to quadruple size of Calif. home
« Reply #41 on: August 24, 2011, 09:29:04 AM »
Embryonic stem cells are thought by most scientists and researchers to hold potential cures for spinal cord injuries, multiple sclerosis, diabetes, Parkinson's disease, cancer, Alzheimer's disease, heart disease, hundreds of rare immune system and genetic disorders and much more.
Scientists see almost infinite value in the use of embryonic stem cell research to understand human development and the growth and treatment of dieases.

Actual cures are many years away, though, since research has not progressed to the point where even one cure has yet been generated by embryonic stem cell research.

Over 100 million Americans suffer from diseases that eventually may be treated more effectively or even cured with embryonic stem cell therapy. Some researchers regard this as the greatest potential for the alleviation of human suffering since the advent of antibiotics.

Many pro-lifers believe that the proper moral and religious course of action is to save existing life through embryonic stem cell therapy.

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Re: Romney plans to quadruple size of Calif. home
« Reply #42 on: August 24, 2011, 09:34:39 AM »
Embryonic stem cells are thought by most scientists and researchers to hold potential cures for spinal cord injuries, multiple sclerosis, diabetes, Parkinson's disease, cancer, Alzheimer's disease, heart disease, hundreds of rare immune system and genetic disorders and much more.
Scientists see almost infinite value in the use of embryonic stem cell research to understand human development and the growth and treatment of dieases.

Actual cures are many years away, though, since research has not progressed to the point where even one cure has yet been generated by embryonic stem cell research.

Over 100 million Americans suffer from diseases that eventually may be treated more effectively or even cured with embryonic stem cell therapy. Some researchers regard this as the greatest potential for the alleviation of human suffering since the advent of antibiotics.

Many pro-lifers believe that the proper moral and religious course of action is to save existing life through embryonic stem cell therapy.


Those researchers have been spouting that mess for decades. But, they've produced ZILCH. Meanwhile, ADULT stem cells are treating and curing diseases NOW. And, virtually all of the "potential" that embryonic stem cell research supposedly possesses has been found in adult stem cells.

74 - 0....enough said.

Edit - And, Blacken, if you're going to cut and paste this tired line, at least cite the source.

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Re: Romney plans to quadruple size of Calif. home
« Reply #43 on: August 24, 2011, 09:40:42 AM »
just because they have not produced any results yet doesn't mean they won't .if we go by your thinking when the wright bros were inventing the plane you would have stoped them and said we don't need a plane its never going to work and we already have the car to get around.and if god wanted us to fly he would have gave us wings  :D :D

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Re: Romney plans to quadruple size of Calif. home
« Reply #44 on: August 24, 2011, 09:47:27 AM »
just because they have not produced any results yet doesn't mean they won't .if we go by your thinking when the wright bros were inventing the plane you would have stoped them and said we don't need a plane its never going to work and we already have the car to get around.and if god wanted us to fly he would have gave us wings  :D :D

Try that again! When one design of the Wright Brothers failed, THEY WENT WITH ANOTHER DESIGN; they didn't stick with the same failed model.

That's what the ESCR bubbas are doing. Their research has been a failure, time and time again (even in countries where it's been funded without incident). That's why lefties need the government to fund it; the private sector won't, because THEY'LL GO BROKE, subsidizing something that doesn't work.

Yet, adult stem cell research is taking off. It's curing diseases NOW; and it's displaying the same "potential" that supposedly was only found in embryonic stem cells.

And, as I posted earlier, now there's research coming from baby teeth.

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Re: Romney plans to quadruple size of Calif. home
« Reply #45 on: August 24, 2011, 09:56:32 AM »
This isn't political news, this is akin to 333's nonsense attacks. 

I hate the State.

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Re: Romney plans to quadruple size of Calif. home
« Reply #46 on: August 24, 2011, 09:58:52 AM »
so your saying you know more than scientists,just stick to your big comic book and let the scientists do their job :D

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Re: Romney plans to quadruple size of Calif. home
« Reply #47 on: August 24, 2011, 10:08:03 AM »


Do those who don't bow down get thrown into the lake of fire?

You've pretty much summed up the members of TK. But, you forgot their unofficial-official theme song.



And, although it's SEVERELY politically incorrect, this next link (which also contains the song) sums up the mentality of TK and other Obama supporters (Warning: the language is, shall we say, not rated PG).


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Re: Romney plans to quadruple size of Calif. home
« Reply #48 on: August 24, 2011, 10:12:19 AM »
Do those who don't bow down get thrown into the lake of fire?

You've pretty much summed up the members of TK. But, you forgot their unofficial-official theme song.



And, although it's SEVERELY politically incorrect, this next link (which also contains the song) sums up the mentality of TK and other Obama supporters (Warning: the language is, shall we say, not rated PG).





would Jesus post stuff like this or encourage you to post this


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Re: Romney plans to quadruple size of Calif. home
« Reply #49 on: August 24, 2011, 10:25:05 AM »


would Jesus post stuff like this or encourage you to post this



Nope!! What's your point?

I couldn't find the edited versions. The bottom line is that such sheepish mentality sums up TK (and others) quite nicely. Sometimes, the truth ain't pretty.