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Author Topic: Architects & Engineers - Solving the Mystery of WTC 7  (Read 20008 times)
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« Reply #375 on: September 13, 2011, 05:26:37 PM »

I could be wrong but I don't think it was 20 drills on the day.  many of the drills brought up were before 9/11.  I think most say 5 drills were happening the day before and the morning of sept. 11.
http://www.911proof.com/9.html


Listen to this on the london bombings...  Unreal...
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEbUQiYOGjU" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEbUQiYOGjU</a>

N0 THERE WERE 22 0N THE DAY AND 42 T0TAL BEF0RE AND AFTER. TARPLEY DISCL0SED THIS IN HIS NEW B00K.
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« Reply #376 on: September 13, 2011, 05:43:02 PM »

found a list from Tarpley's book:

http://coto2.wordpress.com/2011/08/27/the-46-drills-of-911-by-webster-tarpley/
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« Reply #377 on: September 13, 2011, 08:56:21 PM »

There's very strong evidence to show this was "let to happen".  I would challenge anyone to say otherwise and back it up.  These offending individuals weren't even placed under the most basic surveillance after our security agencies received very precise tips about their activities related to this plot.  Again, they did not track these very same individuals that would board those planes.  

And once the attack DID begin, they were allowed to continue for as long as they needed.  Think about that.  They were allowed to continue for as long as they needed, unstopped for nearly an hour and a half.  Think about those undeniable and fundamental facts in this case.  

We must face this reality. The evidence says this was at the very least allowed to happen.

So when you slowly and painfully accept that it was allowed to happen, and you consider the required intent involved to "let it happen" in this murderous case, it's just a very small step to assume that it was helped to happen or even made to happen.  It's called plausibility.  Plain and simple.

THEN when you take it into the realm of hindsight, and the wrenching changes we've suffered as a result: the backwards excuse for "patriotism", the unspeakable loss of our rights, the open-ended wars, the compromising of our most basic values as Americans, the funneling of money to the tune of trillions of dollars, and of course the kneejerk manipulation that has made it all run so smoothly, it should become painfully clear to any rational person.  

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« Reply #378 on: September 13, 2011, 10:07:31 PM »

There's very strong evidence to show this was "let to happen".  I would challenge anyone to say otherwise and back it up.  These offending individuals weren't even placed under the most basic surveillance after our security agencies received very precise tips about their activities related to this plot.  Again, they did not track these very same individuals that would board those planes and cause the greatest tragedy in our history.  

And once the attack DID begin, they were allowed to continue for as long as they needed.  Think about that.  They were allowed to continue for as long as they needed, unstopped for nearly an hour and a half.  Think about those undeniable and fundamental facts in this case.  

We must face this very ugly










reality. The evidence says this was at the very least allowed to happen.




So when you slowly and painfully accept that it was allowed to happen, and you consider the required intent involved to "let it happen" in this murderous case, it's just a very small step to assume that it was helped to happen or even made to happen.  It's called plausibility.  Plain and simple.

THEN when you take it into the realm of hindsight, and the wrenching changes we've suffered as a result: the backwards excuse for "patriotism", the unspeakable loss of our rights, the open-ended wars, the compromising of our most basic trust as Americans, the funneling of money to the tune of trillions of dollars, and of course the kneejerk manipulation that has made it all run so smoothly, it should become painfully clear to any rational person.  




No. It was made it happen. The 12 Arabs were just a bunch of patsies who thought they were participating in a drill until it went live. They needed to get the 12 arabs on the plane to plant the story of a hijacking. THE PE0PLE IN CHARGE 0F ALL THIS W0ULD NEVER PUT FAITH IN 12 GUYS T0 CARRY 0UT A HIJACKING. THIS WAS AN 0RCHESTRATED EVENT. The plane itself had been programmed to crash in the tower.
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« Reply #379 on: September 13, 2011, 11:43:18 PM »


No. It was made it happen. The 12 Arabs were just a bunch of patsies who thought they were participating in a drill until it went live. They needed to get the 12 arabs on the plane to plant the story of a hijacking. THE PE0PLE IN CHARGE 0F ALL THIS W0ULD NEVER PUT FAITH IN 12 GUYS T0 CARRY 0UT A HIJACKING. THIS WAS AN 0RCHESTRATED EVENT. The plane itself had been programmed to crash in the tower.

As I said, when you accept that it was allowed to happen, it becomes logical to believe it was made to happen.  Of course.

As for the Arabs believing it was a drill, that's a new one on me.  What evidence do you have to support this?
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« Reply #380 on: September 14, 2011, 12:05:13 AM »

As I said, when you accept that it was allowed to happen, it becomes logical to believe it was made to happen.  Of course.

As for the Arabs believing it was a drill, that's a new one on me.  What evidence do you have to support this?

WELL, THE WH0LE AL QAEDA IS A CREATI0N AND IS C0NTR0LLED BY THE INTELLIGENCE AGENCIES. THE MAIN RECRUITER IS AL LAWKI. HE RECRUITS ALL THE PATSIES. IT'S THE SAME SCENARI0 WITH ALL THE PATSIES. HASSAN, 0SWALD, SUREN, THE UNDERWEAR B0MBER, ETC. THEY ARE ALL INF0RMANTS AND THEN USED AS SCAPEG0ATS. THEY PICK FANATICS AND MENTALLY ILL PE0PLE AND THEN DUPE THEM. THERE IS N0 INDEPENTENT TERR0RIST GR0UP 0PERATING BY THEMSELVES. IT'S ALL PLANNED. THE RINGLEADER ATTA WAS A MEMBER 0F THE MUSLIM BR0THERH00D. A CREATI0N 0F THE BRITISH. THE DRILLS ARE D0NE F0R TW0 REAS0NS. T0 SAY IT'S A DRILL IF THEY ARE CAUGHT BY 0THER LAW ENF0RCEMENT AND T0 GET THE PATSIES AND B0MBS IN. THE DRILL IS THEN FLIPPED LIVE AS WITH THE CASE 0F HASSAN AND THE L0ND0N B0MBINGS. ATTA AND THE HIJACKERS ALS0 0BTAINED LICENSES AND TRAINED IN U.S. BASES. PRI0R T0 9/11. S0 WHY WERE THEY LET 0N THE PLANE AND T00K FLIGHT LESS0NS? T0 MAKE IT SEEM ALL BELIEVABLE THAT THEY ACTUALLY HIJACKED THE PLANE. A PERFECT SET UP. N0NE 0F THE PATSIES KN0W WHAT IS HAPPENING UNTIL IT HAPPENS.

THE PE0PLE WH0 MASTERMINDED 9/11 HAD AN AGENDA AND THEY W0ULD NEVER PLACE FAITH 0N A BUNCH 0F ARABS T0 SUCCEED IN A HIJACKING A PLANE. IT'S T00 RISKY. THERE IS ALWAYS THE P0SSIBILITY THAT THEY D0N'T SUCCEED AND THEIR WH0LE 0PERATI0N IS EXP0SED.
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« Reply #381 on: September 14, 2011, 12:47:03 AM »

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYa35aHe1Yc" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYa35aHe1Yc</a>

INTERESTING. TH0UGHT I'D P0ST THIS. LADY SAID SHE HEARD A B0MB EXPL0DE BEF0RE ANY PLANE HIT THE T0WER. MANY WITNESSES HAD SAID THERE WAS AN EXPL0SI0N BEF0RE THE PLANE HIT THE T0WER. 0F C0URSE, ALL 0F THIS WAS TAKEN  0UT BY 0UR W0NDERFUL FREE MEDIA.
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« Reply #382 on: September 14, 2011, 12:25:11 PM »

The "let to happen" foundation is obvious.  A person would have to have their head so far up their ass to deny it, it's not even funny.  But of course in a case like this, there's no separation between "let to happen" and "made to happen".

As far as detailing the "made to happen", though, it gets trickier.  A person has to make a plausible story with facts to support it.  In the end, it needs more than random bits and pieces; it must have as close to a complete reconstruction as possible.

The explosions are a very interesting part of that morning.  Many credible people, including several employees of the WTC that knew the environment better than anyone else, have stated without hesitation that there WERE explosions in the half minute or so before the aircraft hit.  It is a solid collection of evidence that should go into the "good" drawer until ready to be pulled out.

As for the idea that Atta and others were present on business at our military bases, which are secure sites with checkpoints, I'd like to see some evidence.
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« Reply #383 on: September 26, 2011, 09:26:32 PM »

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYa35aHe1Yc" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYa35aHe1Yc</a>

INTERESTING. TH0UGHT I'D P0ST THIS. LADY SAID SHE HEARD A B0MB EXPL0DE BEF0RE ANY PLANE HIT THE T0WER. MANY WITNESSES HAD SAID THERE WAS AN EXPL0SI0N BEF0RE THE PLANE HIT THE T0WER. 0F C0URSE, ALL 0F THIS WAS TAKEN  0UT BY 0UR W0NDERFUL FREE MEDIA.
HAHA - Ozmo, where are you? We'd like your input on this video!! They must all be in on it.
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« Reply #384 on: September 26, 2011, 10:55:03 PM »

Really Quad? 

So multiple witness testimony is always consistent? 

So if 170 people hear the same thing, for example 3 gun shiots, all 170 of them will say they heard 3 gun shots?

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How many would testify to 4 or 2?   1?  10?  30?  Or zero?
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« Reply #385 on: September 27, 2011, 05:38:51 AM »


What would be interesting is to know how many survivors heard explosions and how many heard them before the planes hit.  

Maybe some one can present Actual sourced data.  Like 2000 survivors reported hearing explosions.  "X" reported hearing them before and "Y" reported hearing them after.

Just don't serve up some vague obviously edited string of clips from some wanna be final cut junkie.  

P.S. No need to "YELL" your reponses.   Wink.  Thanks.
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« Reply #386 on: September 29, 2011, 11:33:46 AM »

We are not talking about WTC 1 right now. WTC 7 fell straight down in it's own footprint, demolition style. WTC 7 did not have significant damage from the North and South towers that collapsed earlier. Did you look at the video?

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTy3RYDj0lk" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTy3RYDj0lk</a>

All the buildings vertical STEEL columns were cut simultaneously.

No other way possible to bring down a 47 story building... at the SPEED OF GRAVITY.

Prove Building #7 CD incorrect. Just post a video of ANY building in World History that has acted in a similar fashion.

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« Reply #387 on: November 24, 2011, 12:19:24 PM »

As for the idea that Atta and others were present on business at our military bases, which are secure sites with checkpoints, I'd like to see some evidence.

Four days after the attacks, the LA Times reported:

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A defense official said two of the hijackers were former Saudi fighter pilots who had studied in exchange programs at the Defense Language School at Lackland Air Force Base in Texas and the Air War College at Maxwell Air Force Base in Alabama.

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Newsweek, the Washington Post and the Miami Herald all reported as many as seven of the terrorist hijackers in the September 11th attacks received training at secure U.S. Military installations.
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