800 sq foot office space for $300 dollars a month!!!...insane

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

This is like feeding the village idiot. Well, Goodrum is clearly the town fool on Getbig. He doesn't disclose where the premises are or anything. Just another bullshit story to make people think he is some kind of astute businessman. He is married to a bloke and now claims he is bi. Yeah, sure.

Well, you're on a roll aren't you Basile???  Perhaps its because school's back in session and the kids are not roaming out on the streets anymore. 

BTW, I suppose being an astute businessman means having my father buy a gym for me...right Vince....

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

Come on, Joe, 800 sq ft is not big enough for anything but a garage or basement gym. 2000 would be a very small gym.

If you were paying attention, you crusty old fuck, then you know that I have no desire in opening some gym.  They are a waste of money and time and simply not substainable in small towns.

[Mr Nobody]

Backwoods in NC I assume Goodrum. Do they have any liquor steels out in the woods could be some extra cash for you.

[Vince B]

Well, you're on a roll aren't you Basile???  Perhaps its because school's back in session and the kids are not roaming out on the streets anymore. 

BTW, I suppose being an astute businessman means having my father buy a gym for me...right Vince....

Keith was right, you are an asshole, Melvin Goodrum. Playing the pedo card is about as low as anyone can go even on Getbig.

How in the hell would you know what is substainable in NC? Your ignorance is sustainable.

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

Keith was right, you are an asshole, Melvin Goodrum. Playing the pedo card is about as low as anyone can go even on Getbig.

How in the hell would you know what is substainable in NC? Your ignorance is sustainable.

Wah, Wah, Wah.....stop crying you big baby.  You're the one who decided to step into my thread and talk shit and in fact you don't even know what you're talking about.  Mega-Gyms are going the way of the dinosaur.  People are tired of signing 3 year contracts and not getting any help in the gym without paying a personal trainer making their fitness goals impossible to accomplish.  Gyms count on people signing up, working out for a few days, getting fustrated and leaving....still having to pay the remaining 3 years on their contract.

I want to run a facility that gets results and I don't want to spend all my time selling gym memberships.  I want people to come in anytime they want and get the help they need.  That's why I became a personal trainer for and that's why I'm opening a PT Studio.  Now buzz off.

[Doug_Steele]

Wah, Wah, Wah.....stop crying you big baby.  You're the one who decided to step into my thread and talk shit and in fact you don't even know what you're talking about.  Mega-Gyms are going the way of the dinosaur.  People are tired of signing 3 year contracts and not getting any help in the gym without paying a personal trainer making their fitness goals impossible to accomplish.  Gyms count on people signing up, working out for a few days, getting fustrated and leaving....still having to pay the remaining 3 years on their contract.

I want to run a facility that gets results and I don't want to spend all my time selling gym memberships.  I want people to come in anytime they want and get the help they need.  That's why I became a personal trainer for and that's why I'm opening a PT Studio.  Now buzz off.

Why anyone would hire a personal trainer these days is either old or just wants to throw $$$$ away. three year contracts?? I know that mega gyms offer that, but most gyms will offer month to month or year to year. So, are you trying to open up a Gym like Andy had in Mauldin, S.C.?  If so, then he did pretty good, but i believe he threw his $$$$ away on hookers, new cell phones, cars he could not afford and coke.  Power hours was a great gym, but i have no clue how big Sylva, N.C. is and you seem to be going for people who are 70...maybe you could teach a Geriatric class. I am sure they make $$$$ too.

[Vince B]

Melvin, you know nothing about the gym business. Small communities can sustain a gym. Sure, not a big gym. In big cities there are heaps of big gyms. I guess you have been in the backwoods of NC so long you have no clue what is happening outside your small trailer. To be sure it is a hard business. You can also hire staff to help you.

The plain truth is your PT studio is a pipedream. I doubt you will ever open one. We have been hearing this crap for years now.

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

Why anyone would hire a personal trainer these days is either old or just wants to throw $$$$ away. three year contracts?? I know that mega gyms offer that, but most gyms will offer month to month or year to year. So, are you trying to open up a Gym like Andy had in Mauldin, S.C.?  If so, then he did pretty good, but i believe he threw his $$$$ away on hookers, new cell phones, cars he could not afford and coke.  Power hours was a great gym, but i have no clue how big Sylva, N.C. is and you seem to be going for people who are 70...maybe you could teach a Geriatric class. I am sure they make $$$$ too.

Actually I would have an elderly fitness class.  There are a number of retirees in the area with a lot of disposable income.  Its a matter of demographics and common sense to cater to them as well.  There's still a market for one on one personal training but the current trend is in group training.  People want personalized training at a low price and group training somewhat allows that. 
 
There's already 2 gyms in Sylva and they are doing very horribly to say the least, the largest one is currently in foreclosure and they are a few months away from being evicted.  People have simply gotten tired of the same old "sign this contract and don't bother me again" type business.  So I'm not going to go down the same road

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

Melvin, you know nothing about the gym business. Small communities can sustain a gym. Sure, not a big gym. In big cities there are heaps of big gyms. I guess you have been in the backwoods of NC so long you have no clue what is happening outside your small trailer. To be sure it is a hard business. You can also hire staff to help you.

The plain truth is your PT studio is a pipedream. I doubt you will ever open one. We have been hearing this crap for years now.

I had one in Greenville, dipshit.  All of my equipment is in a storage building that I pay 30 bucks a month for.  The reason I haven't opened one here is because I've concentrated more on my online businesses.   

[deadz]

I had one in Greenville, dipshit.  All of my equipment is in a storage building that I pay 30 bucks a month for.  The reason I haven't opened one here is because I've concentrated more on my online businesses.   

Why step back into brick and mortar? On-line business declining?

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

Why step back into brick and mortar? On-line business declining?

Actually, its increased a great deal ever since I started selling pools, spas, and water ionizer kits.  My Alexa ranking for Caliber Fitness Solutions is at now at 527,000 with 2 other sites of mine under 1 million.  However, you can never make enough money these days.   

[Vince B]

Melvin, you aren't qualified to offer medical or pharmaceutical advice.


Caliber Fitness Solutions is the most innovative health and fitness company to ever exist. We provide affordable health and fitness solutions to unfavorable medical treatments and procedures. We accomplish this by stocking the highest quality vitamins and supplements. Our vitamins are produced at pharmaceutical grade and are made without using preservatives like sugar, salt, starch, wheat, or corn and you'll never find any artificial flavoring or coloring in our products making it the essential choice for people who have high blood pressure or allergic reactions to chemicals. We also carry a line of easy to use training equipment and systems around. Each system comes with a full nutritional support package which will facilitate you to achieving your desired goals. Don't resort to dangerous drugs, life-threatening procedures, or costly prescription drugs. If you have a health or fitness problem then we are the solution!

http://caliberfitness.com/index.php?_a=viewDoc&docId=1

Someone claims you ripped them off!

http://www.ripoffreport.com/weightloss-programs/caliber-fitness-solu/caliber-fitness-solutions-cali-e3b82.htm

[YngiweRhoads]

Why step back into brick and mortar? On-line business declining?

My web/graphic design biz is virtual and we're thinking about getting back into a brick and mortar. Many potential and current clients say it adds a sense of legitimacy to the biz.

We're looking at $350.00/mo for about the same sq/ft, plus it's centrally located in the downtown biz district here.  If it will help garner more clients, it's worth the small expense. $350.00 is peanuts.

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

Melvin, you aren't qualified to offer medical or pharmaceutical advice.


Caliber Fitness Solutions is the most innovative health and fitness company to ever exist. We provide affordable health and fitness solutions to unfavorable medical treatments and procedures. We accomplish this by stocking the highest quality vitamins and supplements. Our vitamins are produced at pharmaceutical grade and are made without using preservatives like sugar, salt, starch, wheat, or corn and you'll never find any artificial flavoring or coloring in our products making it the essential choice for people who have high blood pressure or allergic reactions to chemicals. We also carry a line of easy to use training equipment and systems around. Each system comes with a full nutritional support package which will facilitate you to achieving your desired goals. Don't resort to dangerous drugs, life-threatening procedures, or costly prescription drugs. If you have a health or fitness problem then we are the solution!

http://caliberfitness.com/index.php?_a=viewDoc&docId=1

Someone claims you ripped them off!

http://www.ripoffreport.com/weightloss-programs/caliber-fitness-solu/caliber-fitness-solutions-cali-e3b82.htm

So, you've never had anyone complain, yell or scream at the staff at your gym, Basile?....   That's exactly what this person did after he decided to play "Mr Fix-It" on his exercise bike.  I could have sent him a new bolt and fastening via Priority Mail and he could have been back up and running in 2 days.  Instead, he strips the bolt causing the entire assembly to be replaced.  After speaking with him, I contacted Sunny and they shipped out a brand new assembly to him and I paid the shipping on top of that. 

The trademark of a good business is not having any problems but taking care of them when they arise.  He was just a very unique person with a serious anger management issue. 

[YngiweRhoads]

So, you've never had anyone complain, yell or scream at the staff at your gym, Basile?....  That's exactly what this person did after he decided to play "Mr Fix-It" on his exercise bike.  I could have sent him a new bolt and fastening via Priority Mail and he could have been back up and running in 2 days.  Instead, he strips the bolt causing the entire assembly to be replaced.  After speaking with him, I contacted Sunny and they shipped out a brand new assembly to him and I paid the shipping on top of that.  

The trademark of a good business is not having any problems but taking care of them when they arise.  He was just a very unique person with a serious anger management issue.  

I've had clients complain about me overcharging them for free service, believe it or not. Wouldn't be surprised their complaint is registered with the BBB or something of that nature.

[Vince B]

Melvin, did you get someone to check your claims on your site? The reason I ask is because some of what is there is unclear the way it is written. You claim you "provide affordable health and fitness solutions to unfavorable medical treatments and procedures." Do you mean 'for'? How can you claim that? You are not qualified to give medical advice.

[Coach is Back!]

Why anyone would hire a personal trainer these days is either old or just wants to throw $$$$ away. three year contracts?? I know that mega gyms offer that, but most gyms will offer month to month or year to year. So, are you trying to open up a Gym like Andy had in Mauldin, S.C.?  If so, then he did pretty good, but i believe he threw his $$$$ away on hookers, new cell phones, cars he could not afford and coke.  Power hours was a great gym, but i have no clue how big Sylva, N.C. is and you seem to be going for people who are 70...maybe you could teach a Geriatric class. I am sure they make $$$$ too.

The problem is the big commercial gyms are losing money with these stupid $19mo memberships and lower and the equipment is catered to towards bodybuilding than actual fitness with all of the machines, it's been the same model for 30 years and these gyms haven't evolved with the times. 24hr, Ballys, LA Fitness, Golds are all getting killed by smaller gyms. I guaranty I can open a 1500-2000 sqft gym that actually gets results out of my clients and can turn twice the profit of anyone of those commercial gyms. use to be 24hr was opening a gym a month now it's two a year if that and it's not because of the economy.

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

Melvin, did you get someone to check your claims on your site? The reason I ask is because some of what is there is unclear the way it is written. You claim you "provide affordable health and fitness solutions to unfavorable medical treatments and procedures." Do you mean 'for'? How can you claim that? You are not qualified to give medical advice.

 

Amazing how you can read that I provide health and fitness solutions but come to the conclusion that I am giving out medical advice.

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

The problem is the big commercial gyms are losing money with these stupid $19mo memberships and lower and the equipment is catered to towards bodybuilding than actual fitness with all of the machines, it's been the same model for 30 years and these gyms haven't evolved with the times. 24hr, Ballys, LA Fitness, Golds are all getting killed by smaller gyms. I guaranty I can open a 1500-2000 sqft gym that actually gets results out of my clients and can turn twice the profit of anyone of those commercial gyms. use to be 24hr was opening a gym a month now it's two a year if that and it's not because of the economy.

Not to mention licensing fees and having to allow other people from around the country to train at your facility on your own dime.  What good is it to pay for the Gold's Gym name when they don't even pay for TV advertising. 

[The Wizard of Truth]

Kelvin do you know how small 800square ft is?
Each bathroom is at least 50 square foot so that leaves 700, are u planning on having a reception area or changing rooms? Shower areas? Dream on

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

Kelvin do you know how small 800square ft is?
Each bathroom is at least 50 square foot so that leaves 700, are u planning on having a reception area or changing rooms? Shower areas? Dream on

Square footage is for the training space, doesn't count the bathrooms.  I don't intend on having showers..just a changing room and bathrooms.  Because its a PT studio, people are going to go home after their workout so there would not be a need for one.

[SF1900]

THIS THREAD JUST GETS FUNNIER AND FUNNIER! 

[Vince B]

Melvin is the perfect example of sour grapes. He can't afford a real gym so comes up with all those excuses why he doesn't want one. Seems to me he doesn't need a change room. People can come to his ultra modern facility dressed to exercise. No point providing unnecessary ammenities. Goodrum is parsimonious rather than being a cheapskate.

[Dr Dutch]

THIS THREAD JUST GETS FUNNIER AND FUNNIER! 

I read it 24h ago, and can smoothly slide back in without a thing now.......

[Coach is Back!]

Melvin is the perfect example of sour grapes. He can't afford a real gym so comes up with all those excuses why he doesn't want one. Seems to me he doesn't need a change room. People can come to his ultra modern facility dressed to exercise. No point providing unnecessary ammenities. Goodrum is parsimonious rather than being a cheapskate.

Vince, you're idea of the "real" gym is on it's way to being a thing of the past. have you read any of my posts on here? Why would someone open a $5-10mil facility with 50,000 sq ft and a $300k per month overhead and charge $19mo. when they can spend $400k or less, get results from their clients and make 2-3 times the profit?