Luke Wood - R.I.P - passed away after body rejected kidney

[el numero uno]

RIP

Ps: lol at leanne's posts 

[gh15]

gh15, so Milos put Luke on high doses of everything ,   you also reccomend high doses of everything? what gives? what makes  your tips different from Milos?

the diff is im against abuse of diuretics,, and im against narcotics,, i used to be for bodybuilding as olympic sport im very serious,, everyone know we use hormones duh,,the problem is that those mother fuckers pushed in abuse of diuretics and narcotics and alot of shit we dont touch pgcl balonies all that crap ,,use dnp in doses unheard of,, use all kind ofg balonie that its just not needed,, if you are a good bodybuild you will know how to dial in with the help of diuretic yes but ABUSE? you need to fuckin have the foundation and you need hormones ofcourse but you also dont need to sit and abuse the harsh narcotics and diuretics ..they will and are ending lives ,, they do ,, its not like luke wood was the only one waiting on kidny .....many before him and many after him ,, i start thinking maybe it better to stay on dialasys in that situation ,,

and! worst thing of all!,, he kept coming and blessing mishko his good friend!! his goodo goood good friend!,, he used to tell me al the time mishko my good friend ,, FUCK THAT SHIT GREAT FRIEND,, where was mishko sarcev when luke wood was taking his last breath?

i tell you who was there...the poor mom was there THE ONE WHO TRULY was gave care,, she gave him fuckin life,,

GOOD JOB MILOS! one more on your resume

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[RadOncDoc]

years of high dose anabolic steroid use can cause high blood pressure
if LUke Wood was not using blood pressure meds to keep hi BP normal this could have been a major factor in kidney damage

NSAID's/antiinflammtory meds can also damage the kidneys
add to the mix, DIURETICS , which all BB /finess/figure/natural competitors use, then there alot fo risk factors for kidney failure

lUKE MAY ALSO have been diabetic if he was an insulin abuser, often with too much external insulin, the body's own pancreas shuts down. If Luke had diabetes and it was poorly controlled this may have been another contributor to kidney damage.

i wonder how Milos "the guru" feels now?

Agree with this. I don't believe steroids are directly toxic to the kidneys, but there are several aspects of the bodybuilding lifestyle that place people at increased risk for renal failure. Steroids elevate blood pressure and this can certainly harm the kidneys. Also as stated NSAIDS and chronically elevated blood surgars (from insulin) are without a doubt associated with kidney failure. Regarding lasix, not sure that lasix is toxic to the kidneys per se as some have stated. Diuretics are actually used to treat many conditions, including kidney failure. The one scenario under which it could damage the kidneys is if you took it and became severely volume depleted. Under this scenario, the body will reduce blood flow to the kidneys to hold onto water and in doing so, the cells can become damaged from lack of oxygen. This tends to be an acute thing, though. But either way, most bodybuilders are doing their kidneys no favors. 

[L.L]

the diff is im against abuse of diuretics,, and im against narcotics,, i used to be for bodybuilding as olympic sport im very serious,, everyone know we use hormones duh,,the problem is that those mother fuckers pushed in abuse of diuretics and narcotics and alot of shit we dont touch pgcl balonies all that crap ,,use dnp in doses unheard of,, use all kind ofg balonie that its just not needed,, if you are a good bodybuild you will know how to dial in with the help of diuretic yes but ABUSE? you need to fuckin have the foundation and you need hormones ofcourse but you also dont need to sit and abuse the harsh narcotics and diuretics ..they will and are ending lives ,, they do ,, its not like luke wood was the only one waiting on kidny .....many before him and many after him ,, i start thinking maybe it better to stay on dialasys in that situation ,,

and! worst thing of all!,, he kept coming and blessing mishko his good friend!! his goodo goood good friend!,, he used to tell me al the time mishko my good friend ,, FUCK THAT SHIT GREAT FRIEND,, where was mishko sarcev when luke wood was taking his last breath?

i tell you who was there...the poor mom was there THE ONE WHO TRULY was gave care,, she gave him fuckin life,,

GOOD JOB MILOS! one more on your resume

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fair enough.!!

[Primemuscle]

It is sad that Luke Wood passed. It is also sad that people cannot leave it at that and simply express their condolences. It is sad that some folks are using his death (as they have with other bodybuilders) as a platform to discuss the pros and cons of supplements, steroids and a bodybuilder's diet. No doubt, he made some choices in life that some others might not. But, they were his choices to make.

My wife has had type II diabetes for the past thirty-five years. Her kidney function is at about 25% and holding. I know from her experience that this holding pattern is the result of a very delicate balance of diet and meds. Once someone's kidney function is compromised, it is an ongoing daily challenge to stay healthy and keep one's kidneys functioning as best as they can.

All the discussion in the world will not bring Luke Wood back to life. I believe he retired from professional bodybuilding in 2009. Judging from his parting speech, it was a gut wrenching decision for him. This leads me to believe that his health was already seriously declining two years ago. Personally, I believe it is better to go for what you love, despite the risks involved. The fact remains we will all die someday anyway. Better to have lived until you die then to have lived a life trying to prevent the inevitable and thus really never lived at all.

If my goal were to be a monster built bodybuilder and the only way to get there was by using supplements and steroids, I'd do it without regret. Better that then to have no goals and do nothing. I am sixty-seven years old. Fortunately I am very healthy. I have used steroids in moderation over the years. I don't think there is anything wrong with this. It is my health and my decision to do what I want with my life....just as it was Luke Wood's decision to do what he wanted to do to achieve his goals in life.

I say let the man rest in peace!

[240 is Back]

It is sad that Luke Wood passed. It is also sad that people cannot leave it at that and simply express their condolences. It is sad that some folks are using his death (as they have with other bodybuilders) as a platform to discuss the pros and cons of supplements, steroids and a bodybuilder's diet. No doubt, he made some choices in life that some others might not. But, they were his choices to make.

My wife has had type II diabetes for the past thirty-five years. Her kidney function is at about 25% and holding. I know from her experience that this holding pattern is the result of a very delicate balance of diet and meds. Once someone's kidney function is compromised, it is an ongoing daily challenge to stay healthy and keep one's kidneys functioning as best as they can.

All the discussion in the world will not bring Luke Wood back to life. I believe he retired from professional bodybuilding in 2009. Judging from his parting speech, it was a gut wrenching decision for him. This leads me to believe that his health was already seriously declining two years ago. Personally, I believe it is better to go for what you love, despite the risks involved. The fact remains we will all die someday anyway. Better to have lived until you die then to have lived a life trying to prevent the inevitable and thus really never lived at all.

If my goal were to be a monster built bodybuilder and the only way to get there was by using supplements and steroids, I'd do it without regret. Better that then to have no goals and do nothing. I am sixty-seven years old. Fortunately I am very healthy. I have used steroids in moderation over the years. I don't think there is anything wrong with this. It is my health and my decision to do what I want with my life....just as it was Luke Wood's decision to do what he wanted to do to achieve his goals in life.

I say let the man rest in peace!

great words man.  very powerful.  props.

[Princess L]

Keep this thread focused...

[Primemuscle]

im pissed about luke death,, im too mad to write it now,, tomorow

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Sorry for taking liberties with your post gh15, but your feelings are valid and I think they should be posted here. There is nothing wrong with being pissed when someone dies. I hope you will write something about it tomorrow. Write it here.

[gh15]

luke wood SHOULD NOT HAVE DIED,, this is 36 year old or how eveer old even 46 year old it is too young,, this is not 1711 when fellas die at 45,, this is 2011 ,,his death is another stain that no one will care about in 2 weeks because of gurus who make money on goolible fellas,, and he was too nice like bob chick say ,, he actualy believed in it! he saw mr o in the future and first look i took of him i knew this can never be mr o but still no reason to die,, if you only knew how many more in this situations and not famous in the cult...

[ChinoXL]

First and foremost, rest in peace Luke.  You did it your way.  My heart goes out to Luke's mother, fiance', friends and family.  Luke was a genuinely goodhearted person that had ZERO ill-will or words towards anyone.  He was an excellent bodybuilder, but an even better person.  The man is gone now and won't be seen ever again.  Respect the fact that there are people whose hearts are literally SHATTERED by this.  

 I'm of the opinion that the blame game is completely inappropriate in this situation.  Under Milos' tutelage or any other "guru", Luke would have been told to use obscene amounts of drugs.  That goes without saying.  This lifestyle revolves around the use and abuse of these substances and it is unfortunate, but when you make the adult decision to make this YOUR lifestyle you put yourself in the crosshairs.  The fact of the matter is that when the majority of your life's passion has been put into this lifestyle, it really takes an extreme like this to finally let go of it.  You can see the numbers on the bloodwork and feel the wrong going on inside your body, but letting go of what you love and basically all you know is hard.

Anyhow, goodbye Luke Wood, I hope you didn't suffer.


PS: Milos is a person too and spent WAY too much time with Luke to not be devastated by his death.  

[leanne F]

gh15 telling it like it is.how long before some crying heart promoter tries to run a memorial luke wood competition to cash in on his name??

[Vince B]

Whatever we want to say about drugs and so on the unvarnished truth is the culture in LA is where the 'state-of-the-art' is practiced. Ray Mentzer stayed at my place in Sydney for several months back in 1988. His partner at the time, Kathy, said she would not live with Ray if he was preparing for bodybuilding contests. Apparently Ray and his training partners would take drugs to get keen to train. Then they took stuff to level off after the high of training. Toss in the anabolics, etc., and you have a recipe for disaster.

When I visited Ray in LA in 1991 we were going out to a club one night but I told Ray I had a bad headache and couldn't go. He told me to take one of these pills he offered me. Well, I don't take pills that I don't know what they are. He insisted they were nothing but my headache would disappear. I must have been in pain because I relented that one time. Guess what? My headache was soon gone. I have no idea what those pills were. I can imagine someone close to Ray would enquire about those pills if severe headaches presented again and perhaps there was an addiction in the future. I have no idea.

Musclemen have always shared secrets with close mates and no one else. Most of those secrets related to bodybuilding drugs and I imagine Luke knew what others were doing. Some people have said they
warned Luke about various things and people but Luke decided who to befriend and listen to. Even a few weeks ago Luke posted on Milos's site wishing him the best. So Luke never blamed Milos
for his poor health. I think we have to be careful here re assertions about who said and did what. I have no idea what Luke did except for what he posted here on Getbig.

[Earl1972]

luke got a lot of shit around here and just seemed to laugh at it, especially from that piece of shit "hank wood"

rest in peace

E

[The True Adonis]

First and foremost, rest in peace Luke.  You did it your way.  My heart goes out to Luke's mother, fiance', friends and family.  Luke was a genuinely goodhearted person that had ZERO ill-will or words towards anyone.  He was an excellent bodybuilder, but an even better person.  The man is gone now and won't be seen ever again.  Respect the fact that there are people whose hearts are literally SHATTERED by this.  

 I'm of the opinion that the blame game is completely inappropriate in this situation.  Under Milos' tutelage or any other "guru", Luke would have been told to use obscene amounts of drugs.  That goes without saying.  This lifestyle revolves around the use and abuse of these substances and it is unfortunate, but when you make the adult decision to make this YOUR lifestyle you put yourself in the crosshairs.  The fact of the matter is that when the majority of your life's passion has been put into this lifestyle, it really takes an extreme like this to finally let go of it.  You can see the numbers on the bloodwork and feel the wrong going on inside your body, but letting go of what you love and basically all you know is hard.

Anyhow, goodbye Luke Wood, I hope you didn't suffer.


PS: Milos is a person too and spent WAY too much time with Luke to not be devastated by his death.  

You do realize there is bodybuilding without Drugs, don`t you?

[Nails]

PIP & RIP Luke

[quadzilla456]

RIP Luke. He took it too far. So young!

[YoungBlood]

As usual, there's one crew saying it was one thing, and then another crew coming back and saying it wasn't that but not really saying what it was or could have been.

Both sides present little fact and there is studies and/or experience regarding both sides. But again as with most deaths in this spectacle we're involved in, nothing is ever really told. Just like the Orville Burke mystery.

[gh15]

As usual, there's one crew saying it was one thing, and then another crew coming back and saying it wasn't that but not really saying what it was or could have been.

Both sides present little fact and there is studies and/or experience regarding both sides. But again as with most deaths in this spectacle we're involved in, nothing is ever really told. Just like the Orville Burke mystery.

no it was one thing,, that thing was diuretic misuse and abuse together with pain killers,,like always in this cases,,

no need to hide truth or cover it

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[ChinoXL]

You do realize there is bodybuilding without Drugs, don`t you?

Yes Adonis, I do.  I was under the impression that this thread was about IFBB pro Luke Wood and his death and not natural bodybuilding though.  Sorry.

[YoungBlood]

no it was one thing,, that thing was diuretic misuse and abuse together with pain killers,,like always in this cases,,

no need to hide truth or cover it

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You're on one side of the fence, GH.
Now someone else will come along (or already has in the previous pages) and say the opposite.

Comprende?

[gh15]

no,, the diff is they lie and im saying the truth,, everyone can conect the dots...its always like this everyone that falls falls from this,, right now there are many top amatuers circa 2003 who are waiting for kidnys
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[dr.chimps]

Musclemen have always shared secrets with close mates and no one else. Most of those secrets related to bodybuilding drugs and I imagine Luke knew what others were doing. Some people have said they
warned Luke about various things and people but Luke decided who to befriend and listen to. Even a few weeks ago Luke posted on Milos's site wishing him the best. So Luke never blamed Milos
for his poor health. I think we have to be careful here re assertions about who said and did what. I have no idea what Luke did except for what he posted here on Getbig.

85%flotsam.  12.5% jetsam   2.5% proprietary  basile nonsense

[tbombz]

You do realize there is bodybuilding without Drugs, don`t you?

No there isnt

[io856]

Luke wasn't into narcotics... diuretics on a regular basis, yes.


Oh and gh15 yes anabolic steroids contribute to lowered kidney function lets not deny that.

Anabolic steroids, taken by some athletes to gain muscle mass and strength, can destroy kidney function, says a new study.

The study revealed that the habitual use of steroids has serious harmful effects on the kidneys that were not previously recognized.

Leal Herlitz, MD (Columbia University Medical Center) and her colleagues recently conducted a study describing injury to the kidneys following long-term abuse of anabolic steroids.

The researchers studied a group of 10 bodybuilders who used steroids for many years and developed protein leakage into the urine and severe reductions in kidney function. Kidney tests revealed that nine of the ten bodybuilders developed a condition called focal segmental glomerulosclerosis, a type of scarring within the kidneys. This disease typically occurs when the kidneys are overworked. The kidney damage in the bodybuilders has similarities to that seen in morbidly obese patients, but appears to be even more severe.

When bodybuilders discontinued steroid use their kidney abnormalities improved, with the exception of one individual with advanced kidney disease who developed end-stage kidney failure and required dialysis. Also, one of the bodybuilders started taking steroids again and suffered a relapse of severe kidney dysfunction.  (    )

The researchers propose that extreme increases in muscle mass require the kidneys to increase their filtration rate, placing harmful levels of stress on these organs. It’s also likely that steroids have direct toxic effects on the kidneys. “Athletes who use anabolic steroids and the doctors caring for them need to be aware of the potentially serious risks to the kidney,” said Dr. Herlitz.

The study has been presented at the American Society of Nephrology’s 42nd Annual Meeting and Scientific Exposition in San Diego, CA.

[gh15]

Luke wasn't into narcotics... diuretics on a regular basis, yes.


Oh and gh15 yes anabolic steroids contribute to lowered kidney function lets not deny that.

how do you know that? do you know he wasnt doign pain killers? do you think fellas walk around 6 feet 5'11 280lb of ripped meat just by blwoing up on some aas and hgh ? i can not go into detail with luke becaue it is a tread for his memory i guess and that nice female moderator linda or whatever her name is im too tired to scroll up not linda princess,, thats her name,, so i cant go into detail on this,,

i can garentee you though diuretics and some narcotics,, abuse of diuretics and some pain killers mix cocktail will do it to you after prolonged time,,

the only think i can say is that if you ever was about to walk on olympia stage infront of all the people and it is a big big deal olympia no matter how much fellas make fun of bodybuild,, it is big deal to walk on that stage,, and trust me we stop at nothing to look the best we can NOTHING,,

and inregard to hormones and kidny ....NO i have yet to see even ONE SINGLE FELLA lose a kidny from the usage of hormones only ,, NOT EVEN ONE ,, and i trained 100s over 100s of hormonized fellas that ONLY used hormones and that was it,, no one ever had kidny issues,, there was one thing interesting though,, the fellas who used CREATINE! ended up  some of them ended up having kidny stones! and problems still didnt lose kidny but had kidny stones!,,so supplememts....

there is a reason i write on this boarding,,, im trying to get bodybuild to be what it USED to be,, im trying to take it away from what happend to luke,, i came little too late for luke ,, i only introduced to getbig and bodybuild cult in late 2005 was already too late for luke ,,maybe few years before it would have ended up diff

no matter how much you want it to be about other things...it is about one thing,, and! eventhough to you luke alwys looked older...due to you know what that i talked to million times...anabolic usage and hormonal usage to extreme... he still was a kid...27-28 -29 year old then ...it is a kid,, he was a kid

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