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Re: If god created Adam and Eve as the first humans on earth......
« Reply #75 on: September 04, 2011, 10:57:58 PM »
Here is the kicker .. Adam and Eve were enslaved in the garden of eden until satan came along and freed Their minds and allowed them to fuck and live life on earth...

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Re: If god created Adam and Eve as the first humans on earth......
« Reply #76 on: September 04, 2011, 11:18:19 PM »
Here is the kicker .. Adam and Eve were enslaved in the garden of eden until satan came along and freed Their minds and allowed them to fuck up and be depressed on earth...
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Re: If god created Adam and Eve as the first humans on earth......
« Reply #77 on: September 05, 2011, 12:50:07 AM »
Here is the kicker .. Adam and Eve were enslaved in the garden of eden until satan came along and freed Their minds and allowed them to fuck and live life on earth...

Yes, before that it was all boring and shitty. Satan really helped us to be more than animals.

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Re: If god created Adam and Eve as the first humans on earth......
« Reply #78 on: September 05, 2011, 12:52:01 AM »
Paradise for eternity must indeed be as boring as Jay Cutler is...

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Re: If god created Adam and Eve as the first humans on earth......
« Reply #79 on: September 05, 2011, 12:57:00 AM »
Nice, a thread on a bodybuilding blog discussing folklore. Adam, Eve, the snake and now Satan. -Makes me pleased to be Agnostic.

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Re: If god created Adam and Eve as the first humans on earth......
« Reply #80 on: September 05, 2011, 12:58:18 AM »
Nice, a thread on a bodybuilding blog discussing folklore. Adam, Eve, the snake and now Satan. -Makes me pleased to be Agnostic.
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Re: If god created Adam and Eve as the first humans on earth......
« Reply #81 on: September 05, 2011, 04:19:55 AM »
OK, Let`s all assume the Bible is correct, just for a second, the explanation is as follows.... Pre-flood era there was a unique atmospheric pressure with Oxygen enriched molecules combined with a suspended layer of a water above the ozone layer that filtered out radiation, UV ray, gamma rays etc, thus providing the perfect occurrences of photosynthesis, which ultimately is humans source of food, hence providing the maximum amount of life spans a biological entity is capable of producing. In this case pre-flood man was capable of living in excess of 900 year, the human anatomy shows that there are bone structures that keep growing until the day you die such as the orbiculares occuli , the bridge above your eyes. the nasal bones, and other facial structural components, portions of the ears, portions of the spinal chords etc etc. This is why age can be determine by examining a bone structure or skeletal remain, an 80 year old bone structure varies significantly of that of a 20 year old, so just imagine a bode structure of a 800 year old man, neanderthal is indeed man, just a very very old man.

Now before all you guys start with the name calling, your in fairytale land, stupid, moran, idiot, tooth fairy,Santa clause, lockness, blah, blah, blah....save it cause I have heard it a million times before and I am just answering his question from an alternative perspective of that of evolution, not here debating wether its true or not, beside if you don`t believe in it then why even bother asking a question that your not going to like the perspective answere.

here we go lol ;D....................... ........

We are creatures of God, and God left (why? when will he return? how comes he only keeps in touch with a fraction of us?) us with a written guide, the bible, to dispose of ourselves and find hapiness if we follow his principles... our principles. If you do not follow these principles you ll find evil and suffering and will perpetuate them, as sure as following these principles will lead you to hapiness and will allow you to perpetuate it.
 God intervenes in our lives at night when we sleep, especially in our dreams, but we have to read the bible , his holy writings, and pray, to stay wired to him and keep listening to, looking at, the signs he puts on our path. As people lose faith in him, they cannot communicate with him anymore, communications are troubled. The more we re harmed, hurt, the more we harm, hurt, the more we re disconnecting ourselves with him and what makes us feel really good and happy. Those who lose contact with him, who refuse progressively to understand they re only his creations and cannot BE Him, they become more and more prone to fall for Evil. Is evil another God fighting the good God? Attempting to be, become God himself when we re only designed to be his creation, is a sin. We cannot be anything else but his creatures and follow the mechanics he created, just as a kid can only do and say what his father, parents, told him to do and say.

Hapiness is linked to faith. Faith is found following the guide left by our creator. We are not supposed to understand more, arent designed to understand more. We CANNOT UNDERSTAND MORE THAN WHAT WE RE LEFT WITH BY THOSE WHO CREATED US. Any attempt to do so leads to madness and death. Which means genuine hapiness can only and solely be found in faith, family and unconditionnal love, submission and respect for our creator. Just like loving and respecting our Father insure our best odds of survival and hapiness, if our father is a good father, following himself the principles of His creator.

Good things lead to good things, this is mathematical and scientifically proven. Does a good life following the principles of God leads to a good afterlife?
What is the afterlife, another dimension, another earth, another parallel universe where we reap what we sow ? Is the afterlife... Becoming God himself?

Why all of this? Good fucking question. But there are some patterns we re all able to see and cannot deny. And mankind is going in a direction. Everyone knows it. Something is coming. Also how comes the more we try to understand, the more we discover, the more things seem complicated and complex? It's like everytime humans understand and discover something new, something new and impossible to understand is created simultaneously. Like if someone, something was creating new boundaries everytime we reach the old ones with no end in sight. Do you guys really think there's is something to be found in space ? The more we learn about space, the more we figure we should take care of earth, because space is absolutely not designed to sustain our survival.

Are the theories of natural selection, evolution, of the subconscious, just ways to explain the "mysterious and unpenetrable ways of God" , but always, "mysteriously", fail to do so?

Are we characters of a virtual world, some kind of video game, programmed by developpers, can we do something different than what has been written in the code, the scenario, is the background, are grass, sky, sun, ilusions as they are in a video game? Can we be, become something else than the character we ve been designed to be, to become?
If we ve been created by developpers... Who/what created them, and why?  And who created those who created them, and why? And so on...

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Re: If god created Adam and Eve as the first humans on earth......
« Reply #82 on: September 05, 2011, 04:55:58 AM »
God has sent messengers and prophets as guidance.   we have been given this guidance as a mercy and if we choose to live our lives any way we see fit then we are asking for eternal hell. God is the most loving and most forgiving but he also isn't a punk. saying God does not punish those who transgress against him and reward those who are the most righteous is what blasphemes the perfection of God.

discussing christianity is not discussing the teachings of jesus, its discussing the teachings about jesus.   most of this comes from paul and it would be more accurately be described as paulianity. half the books they decided to use for the new testament are pauline christianity.  the followers of jesus never viewed him as divine and jesus never claimed to be. jesus was a servant of God who was sent only to the lost sheep of israel. jesus taught that salvation comes through keeping the commandments, physical prayer, and following the laws.  paul came along and distorted the teachings and saying that salvation comes through faith and grace.

saying that muhammad was not a real prophet is ridiculous.  anyone who has done and unbiased study of the circumstances in which the quran was revealed and life of muhammad, there is no doubt that he was a prophet and messenger.  the evidence to support his prophethood is overwhelming.  there is a long list of reasons that prove but i won't even waste my time getting into all that because i can see that it's pointless.
Messengers and prophets are always people who ve read the bible in the firstplace before figuring they had a message to promote...

Faith is a construct of the evolution of the Thought process.

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Re: If god created Adam and Eve as the first humans on earth......
« Reply #83 on: September 05, 2011, 04:56:55 AM »
Jesus sold Satan steroids

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Re: If god created Adam and Eve as the first humans on earth......
« Reply #84 on: September 05, 2011, 05:00:31 AM »
Jesus sold Satan steroids

x2, i think it is in the Bible somewhere, have forgotten the exact passage now, but i remember something along the lines of 1500mg Testosterone, 300mg Tren Ace ed and some Masteron mentioned in sunday school by the pastor.

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Re: If god created Adam and Eve as the first humans on earth......
« Reply #85 on: September 05, 2011, 05:28:04 AM »
Yeah, and Jesus was looking very lean on that cross, you know... >:(

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Re: If god created Adam and Eve as the first humans on earth......
« Reply #86 on: September 05, 2011, 05:36:09 AM »
Yeah, and Jesus was looking very lean on that cross, you know... >:(


Diuretics, if they hadn't killed him he would be gone because of kidney failure a few years later for sure.

Dude overdid it, all this water-to-wine-shit on top of too much orals, then the tren and dry look all year round....

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Re: If god created Adam and Eve as the first humans on earth......
« Reply #87 on: September 05, 2011, 05:50:47 AM »
Jesus had no probs with being pinned - though strange place for his last shots  :-\

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Re: If god created Adam and Eve as the first humans on earth......
« Reply #88 on: September 05, 2011, 05:51:52 AM »
Jesus had no probs with being pinned - though strange place for his last shots  :-\

Too much scar tissue in the glutes....  :o :o :o :o


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Re: If god created Adam and Eve as the first humans on earth......
« Reply #89 on: September 05, 2011, 05:52:02 AM »
I hope Ron bought extra bandwidth for this thread


hopefully, nobody mentions Diet Soda in this thread or a new internet will have to be created just to contain this thread

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Re: If god created Adam and Eve as the first humans on earth......
« Reply #90 on: September 05, 2011, 05:56:55 AM »
We are creatures of God, and God left (why? when will he return? how comes he only keeps in touch with a fraction of us?) us with a written guide, the bible, to dispose of ourselves and find hapiness if we follow his principles... our principles. If you do not follow these principles you ll find evil and suffering and will perpetuate them, as sure as following these principles will lead you to hapiness and will allow you to perpetuate it.
 God intervenes in our lives at night when we sleep, especially in our dreams, but we have to read the bible , his holy writings, and pray, to stay wired to him and keep listening to, looking at, the signs he puts on our path. As people lose faith in him, they cannot communicate with him anymore, communications are troubled. The more we re harmed, hurt, the more we harm, hurt, the more we re disconnecting ourselves with him and what makes us feel really good and happy. Those who lose contact with him, who refuse progressively to understand they re only his creations and cannot BE Him, they become more and more prone to fall for Evil. Is evil another God fighting the good God? Attempting to be, become God himself when we re only designed to be his creation, is a sin. We cannot be anything else but his creatures and follow the mechanics he created, just as a kid can only do and say what his father, parents, told him to do and say.

Hapiness is linked to faith. Faith is found following the guide left by our creator. We are not supposed to understand more, arent designed to understand more. We CANNOT UNDERSTAND MORE THAN WHAT WE RE LEFT WITH BY THOSE WHO CREATED US. Any attempt to do so leads to madness and death. Which means genuine hapiness can only and solely be found in faith, family and unconditionnal love, submission and respect for our creator. Just like loving and respecting our Father insure our best odds of survival and hapiness, if our father is a good father, following himself the principles of His creator.

Good things lead to good things, this is mathematical and scientifically proven. Does a good life following the principles of God leads to a good afterlife?
What is the afterlife, another dimension, another earth, another parallel universe where we reap what we sow ? Is the afterlife... Becoming God himself?

Why all of this? Good fucking question. But there are some patterns we re all able to see and cannot deny. And mankind is going in a direction. Everyone knows it. Something is coming. Also how comes the more we try to understand, the more we discover, the more things seem complicated and complex? It's like everytime humans understand and discover something new, something new and impossible to understand is created simultaneously. Like if someone, something was creating new boundaries everytime we reach the old ones with no end in sight. Do you guys really think there's is something to be found in space ? The more we learn about space, the more we figure we should take care of earth, because space is absolutely not designed to sustain our survival.

Are the theories of natural selection, evolution, of the subconscious, just ways to explain the "mysterious and unpenetrable ways of God" , but always, "mysteriously", fail to do so?

Are we characters of a virtual world, some kind of video game, programmed by developpers, can we do something different than what has been written in the code, the scenario, is the background, are grass, sky, sun, ilusions as they are in a video game? Can we be, become something else than the character we ve been designed to be, to become?
If we ve been created by developpers... Who/what created them, and why?  And who created those who created them, and why? And so on...

I see you posting more about GOD and "the creator" recently, I thought you were "uberman" lol. I guess what we're seeing with you is the religious stage Kierkegaard was talking about

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Re: If god created Adam and Eve as the first humans on earth......
« Reply #91 on: September 05, 2011, 06:03:56 AM »
There is the old testament, the new testament, the qur'an, the mahabharata and many other religious books / guides / history of humanity scrolls.

When I talk to say a Muslim or Jewish person and they talk with 100% certainty on how their method the the right method etc, I ask them, hypothetically if they where born into a family that lead another religious belief wouldn't they believe that that's the real belief system?

I feel as humans we should respect everyone regardless what they believe, no god, yes god, 5 gods, anunaki, whatever. As long as its not hurting you who cares.

Only thing I wish is that the camera should of been invented whenever the world started.

The more I read about the planets, stars, the cycle of earth, the moon and sun, the more it just amazes me, I have a hard-time believing it just happened on its own, BUT this doesn't mean I have an answer.




A very level-headed concept.  I agree.

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Re: If god created Adam and Eve as the first humans on earth......
« Reply #92 on: September 05, 2011, 06:06:15 AM »
actually jesus was famously carrying a lot of water (and blood) on the cross

Clearly kidney issues.

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Re: If god created Adam and Eve as the first humans on earth......
« Reply #93 on: September 05, 2011, 06:08:13 AM »
But he had a lat stretch even Parillo would be amazed with...

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Re: If god created Adam and Eve as the first humans on earth......
« Reply #94 on: September 05, 2011, 06:11:06 AM »
We are all going to hell after this thread  :D  Or maybe forced to compete in a third tier pro show  :o

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Re: If god created Adam and Eve as the first humans on earth......
« Reply #95 on: September 05, 2011, 06:17:39 AM »
What is the difference between "Jesus" and "Santa Claus"?  I'm being serious.  We like to think that we know alot more about ancient history then we really do.  Truth is that we would have to re-write many history book if we knew the true facts about what happened thousands of years ago.  Guys like Julius Caesar, and Alexander the Great had their own personal historians, who probably kept only most of the good stuff down on paper. 

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Re: If god created Adam and Eve as the first humans on earth......
« Reply #96 on: September 05, 2011, 06:23:33 AM »
What is the difference between "Jesus" and "Santa Claus"?  I'm being serious.  We like to think that we know alot more about ancient history then we really do.  Truth is that we would have to re-write many history book if we knew the true facts about what happened thousands of years ago.  Guys like Julius Caesar, and Alexander the Great had their own personal historians, who probably kept only most of the good stuff down on paper. 
Seems there are hardly if any historical documents about Jesus other than the bible. I think he either didn't exist at all or he was some rebel leader or schizophrenic that fucked up..

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Re: If god created Adam and Eve as the first humans on earth......
« Reply #97 on: September 05, 2011, 06:26:03 AM »
I see you posting more about GOD and "the creator" recently, I thought you were "uberman" lol. I guess what we're seeing with you is the religious stage Kierkegaard was talking about

The rest of us have reached this stage.


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Re: If god created Adam and Eve as the first humans on earth......
« Reply #98 on: September 05, 2011, 06:31:55 AM »
What about Jim Jones?  He was the wack job that made almost 1,000 people kill themselves by literally "drinking the koolaide".  What if his little utopia actually caught on?  Would people have been worshipping "Jim Jones" 1,000 years from now?  Maybe.

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Re: If god created Adam and Eve as the first humans on earth......
« Reply #99 on: September 05, 2011, 06:33:15 AM »
I see you posting more about GOD and "the creator" recently, I thought you were "uberman" lol. I guess what we're seeing with you is the religious stage Kierkegaard was talking about

I noticed this as well.


 

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