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Re: Ron Paul Ad Trust-NEW!
« Reply #75 on: September 06, 2011, 09:51:16 PM »
You have one fucking thick skull man.

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Re: Ron Paul Ad Trust-NEW!
« Reply #76 on: September 06, 2011, 09:55:02 PM »
Perfect explaination.
The whole thing is so absurd it's funny.  It was common knowledge that Ron Paul had issues with Reagan.  We even posted about it here in the 08 election.  It's been talked about extensively on the net and even on the Ron Paul forums.  But we all knew that he supported Reagan's stated ideology especially the aspects of it that are most known today.  So it's like a WTF hahah are you serious when I see TA pop up with an AH-HA! that Ron Paul distanced himself when he was running for president at the end of Reagan's time in office.

The real question should be, Did Ron Paul ever distance himself from the ideals Reagan started out with?  Nope....
Did Ron Paul support and continue to support the ideals Reagan started with? YUP
Did Rick Perry support the ideals of Reagan back then? NOPE... 

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Re: Ron Paul Ad Trust-NEW!
« Reply #77 on: September 06, 2011, 09:59:57 PM »
So I watched it again.  America has to decide who to trust:  the Al Gore cheerleader, or "the one who stood with Reagan."  

I don't see how a reasonable person watching that clip would not conclude that Ron Paul was a Reagan supporter.  And not a supporter who later distanced himself from Reagan.  

Yes  he was a Reagan supporter, he stood with him AT THE BEGINNING when others did not.  It says that right at the start of the video. WHY do you insist with changing the meaning of something so obvious? He distanced himself cause Reagan changed, thats why they said AT THE BEGINNING and not during the presidency. ok? got it now?

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Re: Ron Paul Ad Trust-NEW!
« Reply #78 on: September 06, 2011, 10:02:58 PM »
So I watched it again.  America has to decide who to trust:  the Al Gore cheerleader, or "the one who stood with Reagan."  

I don't see how a reasonable person watching that clip would not conclude that Ron Paul was a Reagan supporter.  And not a supporter who later distanced himself from Reagan.  
Ron Paul was a Reagan supporter, that's actually a fact.  Perry never was then, that's also a fact.  You're failing to put things into context of what happened, when and why.  In the aspect of the issues raised in the ad he is still a supporter of Reagan.  I know, you're use to these politicians who have to side with one side over the other and never cross that.  But even today Ron Paul is not that, he still crosses over to team up on issues he thinks are right.  With Ron Paul you can have him yelling about what a politician wants one day and the next day he'll be teaming up with on another issue.  That's Ron Paul and personally I fucking love the honest integrity of it.  But you and TA are taking that same postive and turning it into his negative but that won't fly because we know well from his history that's not the full story and is more, spin to make him look bad.

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Re: Ron Paul Ad Trust-NEW!
« Reply #79 on: September 06, 2011, 10:07:19 PM »
why are we even arguing with two people that already hate Ron Paul and have had nothing but contempt for him with almost every post they've made about him?  It's so fucking obvious these two would latch onto anything they feel in the least has potential to make him look bad.

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Re: Ron Paul Ad Trust-NEW!
« Reply #80 on: September 06, 2011, 10:13:09 PM »
dissing reagan in 87, when Bush was running things anyway...

vs. supporting reagan in 79... then as he made solid moves in the next 5 years...

Different times.  Does anyone here truly believe reagan was making the calls in late 1988?  LMAO
But then there is this.

Paul says, his disenchantment with the Ronald Reagan began well before 1987. In an interview that year with The Christian Science Monitor, he said, “It didn’t take more than a month after [Reagan's inauguration in] 1981, to realize there would be no changes.”

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Re: Ron Paul Ad Trust-NEW!
« Reply #81 on: September 06, 2011, 10:15:28 PM »
So I watched it again.  America has to decide who to trust:  the Al Gore cheerleader, or "the one who stood with Reagan."  

I don't see how a reasonable person watching that clip would not conclude that Ron Paul was a Reagan supporter.  And not a supporter who later distanced himself from Reagan.  
Exactly.

Paultards are sick Pretzels who will twist themselves into whatever Bullshit illogical position because they can`t simply admit that their candidate sucks major on many issues.

I like the one where he thinks FEMA should be eradicated.  Poop, Poop Paul.  Or the one where he says he wouldn`t have gone after Bin Laden even if he knew his location. POOP POOP Paul.. hahahh

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Re: Ron Paul Ad Trust-NEW!
« Reply #82 on: September 06, 2011, 10:16:04 PM »
why are we even arguing with two people that already hate Ron Paul and have had nothing but contempt for him with almost every post they've made about him?  It's so fucking obvious these two would latch onto anything they feel in the least has potential to make him look bad.

Thats why I try keeping my posts short. I couldnt type everything you do because even though its as clear as a bell, some people are just going to continue to refuse to see facts as they are. So whats the friggin point?

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Re: Ron Paul Ad Trust-NEW!
« Reply #83 on: September 06, 2011, 10:17:55 PM »
Yes  he was a Reagan supporter, he stood with him AT THE BEGINNING when others did not.  It says that right at the start of the video. WHY do you insist with changing the meaning of something so obvious? He distanced himself cause Reagan changed, thats why they said AT THE BEGINNING and not during the presidency. ok? got it now?
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Yes because One Month after the inauguration of Reagan is a long enough time line for Ron Poop to drop support from Reagan.


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Re: Ron Paul Ad Trust-NEW!
« Reply #84 on: September 06, 2011, 10:18:44 PM »
Exactly.

Paultards are sick Pretzels who will twist themselves into whatever Bullshit illogical position because they can`t simply admit that their candidate sucks major on many issues.

I like the one where he thinks FEMA should be eradicated.  Poop, Poop Paul.  Or the one where he says he wouldn`t have gone after Bin Laden even if he knew his location. POOP POOP Paul.. hahahh

There you go BB, TA agrees with you and if that doesnt make you question your position then I don't know what will.

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Re: Ron Paul Ad Trust-NEW!
« Reply #85 on: September 06, 2011, 10:21:44 PM »
Then why even ask the question?  lol  

The obsession some folks have with Ron Paul is actually pretty funny.  It's very similar to the Obama-bots who viewed Obama as The Messiah before the 08 election.  

Suffice to say I have a different take on the ad.  It's not something I would have recommended he run.  In any event, at the end of the day it's not going to matter.  Perry will likely beat him by a large margin in Texas.  And if 2008 is any guide, Romney will beat him in Texas too.

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Re: Ron Paul Ad Trust-NEW!
« Reply #86 on: September 06, 2011, 10:22:19 PM »
There you go BB, TA agrees with you and if that doesnt make you question your position then I don't know what will.

Oh I'm good. Just need to go take a shower.  lol

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Re: Ron Paul Ad Trust-NEW!
« Reply #87 on: September 06, 2011, 10:25:06 PM »
Oh I'm good. Just need to go take a shower.  lol
I'll call the police, don't shower, it'll wash away the evidence...

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Re: Ron Paul Ad Trust-NEW!
« Reply #88 on: September 06, 2011, 10:29:31 PM »


JUNIOR YELL SQUAD.

HAHA, what a homo. Over compensating with the guns now to hide his more effeminate side.

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Re: Ron Paul Ad Trust-NEW!
« Reply #89 on: September 06, 2011, 10:40:50 PM »


JUNIOR YELL SQUAD.

HAHA, what a homo. Over compensating with the guns now to hide his more effeminate side.
have you seen the pics of him out with the cheerleaders just like GW lol...

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Re: Ron Paul Ad Trust-NEW!
« Reply #90 on: September 06, 2011, 10:46:11 PM »
have you seen the pics of him out with the cheerleaders just like GW lol...

lol

Man, its fucking scary how much they resemble each other in every shitty way possible.

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Re: Ron Paul Ad Trust-NEW!
« Reply #91 on: September 06, 2011, 10:46:44 PM »
Ron Paul was a Reagan supporter, that's actually a fact.  Perry never was then, that's also a fact.  You're failing to put things into context of what happened, when and why.  In the aspect of the issues raised in the ad he is still a supporter of Reagan.  I know, you're use to these politicians who have to side with one side over the other and never cross that.  But even today Ron Paul is not that, he still crosses over to team up on issues he thinks are right.  With Ron Paul you can have him yelling about what a politician wants one day and the next day he'll be teaming up with on another issue.  That's Ron Paul and personally I fucking love the honest integrity of it.  But you and TA are taking that same postive and turning it into his negative but that won't fly because we know well from his history that's not the full story and is more, spin to make him look bad.
Are you aware that being a Reagan supporter is not actually a good thing?

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Re: Ron Paul Ad Trust-NEW!
« Reply #92 on: September 06, 2011, 10:47:22 PM »
Are you aware that being a Reagan supporter is not actually a good thing?

Here he goes again.....

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Re: Ron Paul Ad Trust-NEW!
« Reply #93 on: September 06, 2011, 10:49:22 PM »
Thats why I try keeping my posts short. I couldnt type everything you do because even though its as clear as a bell, some people are just going to continue to refuse to see facts as they are. So whats the friggin point?
Facts?  ROFLMAO you can`t be serious.

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Re: Ron Paul Ad Trust-NEW!
« Reply #94 on: September 06, 2011, 10:52:52 PM »
Are you aware that being a Reagan supporter is not actually a good thing?
Starting to change my mind on that.  In the past I would have said that but if you listen to what Reagan said, I love it.  On the same hand, there was shit going on behind the public's back that went entirely against what he said to the world.  That part, not so good...  But his words, I like, the reality, not so much....  This is absolutely true of his admin and as such you ought to consider more in this area than you do being critical of Paul and how and why he supported Reagan and why he didn't.  There's more to the story that you're not telling.

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Re: Ron Paul Ad Trust-NEW!
« Reply #95 on: September 06, 2011, 11:02:22 PM »
TA, I voted in the 88 election, were you even born then?  Maybe 5 years old at tops?  It's easy to copy some quotes but that doesn't give you insight into what was happening at the time and why.  You can get that but you need to actually research it, not just copy a few quotes and spin them like you have.

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Re: Ron Paul Ad Trust-NEW!
« Reply #96 on: September 06, 2011, 11:12:57 PM »
TA, I voted in the 88 election, were you even born then?  Maybe 5 years old at tops?  It's easy to copy some quotes but that doesn't give you insight into what was happening at the time and why.  You can get that but you need to actually research it, not just copy a few quotes and spin them like you have.

Man, I admire you for trying.

 From another site.

Many conservatives would now agree that as great as Reagan was, he wasn't as conservative as today's conservatives are (and claim to be). It's a much better position to be in to be too conservative for the Republican party than too liberal (ala Gore) for the Republican party.


The Perry camp posted the letter Paul wrote criticising Reagan. All it will do is enforce the above.  The fact that they even bothered to respond to this ad shows RP has pull in this election.


In response, Paul's campaign pointed to Paul's policy proposals during that time and repeated the points in the ad that focused on Perry's past support for Al Gore's 1988 presidential campaign.

Yahoo article.
 
"Dr. Paul was going after Perry for being liberal in 1988. What's Rick Perry's attack for, being too conservative?" Paul spokesman Gary Howard told The Ticket. "The contrast here is plain: Dr. Paul wanted a stronger conservative revolution, Gov. Perry worked to end it."

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Re: Ron Paul Ad Trust-NEW!
« Reply #97 on: September 06, 2011, 11:49:32 PM »
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Yes because One Month after the inauguration of Reagan is a long enough time line for Ron Poop to drop support from Reagan.



Who knows what he knew  during this time to make him begin to be dissappointed.

Paul was one of only a handful of elected lawmakers to support Reagan's failed bid for president in 1976, but he became disenchanted after Reagan won the election in 1980.

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Re: Ron Paul Ad Trust-NEW!
« Reply #98 on: September 06, 2011, 11:54:38 PM »
Who knows what he knew  during this time to make him begin to be dissappointed.

Paul was one of only a handful of elected lawmakers to support Reagan's failed bid for president in 1976, but he became disenchanted after Reagan won the election in 1980.
He was a dumbass for supporting Reagan in the first place.  I wonder if you and Decide are now Reaganites. looolol

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Re: Ron Paul Ad Trust-NEW!
« Reply #99 on: September 06, 2011, 11:55:05 PM »
LOL, I should probably have ron change my name.  It can't look good: Hugo Chavez supports Ron Paul lol...