How do you come to the conclusion that He allows "all the terrible things here on earth take place for nothing?"
Have you ever gone through a difficult time in your life that has somehow benefitted you or someone else (then or later)?
Yes I believe God allows us to go through suffering although He could end it in any way He sees fit. Sometimes I see why and sometimes I just don't. But I believe He knows everything and I don't.
Mitchy, do you believe in personal responsibility in general?
Yes, I was able to follow you this time

I still don't think one would have to do w/the other necessarily though. If there is another planet of beings that have free will and each one of them never decided to sin, then God would still be sovereign...just as He was when He would fellowship w/Adam and Eve in the time before they sinned.
You just proved my point, thanks lol.
If Gods sovreignty is not in question then he is leting all the teribble things here on earth take place for nothing. He could have just wiped out Adam and Eve and started over. But for the benifit of the angels, because who else was there at the time, he has let things go on?
So you basicaly just admited that God wont or cant save us from all the wickedness, and in fact is a heartless bastard for alowing it to continue as long as he has.