gunter used to train at my old gym back in the early to mid 90,s,i remember seeing this huge dude n i actually thought it was arnold for a sec. i remember he had no home or anything n slept in his car awhile,the gym was in east newark,NJ called RED BRICK GYM, when he bacame a famous bodybuilder n i saw him in the mags i was like oh shit i remember him from my gym. he was a monster even back then,huge as hell