Holy sh*t... gh15 (again) dead on about Hammer machine for shoulders

[leadhead]

I loved that machine when I worked out in a gym that had one. I never did much machine sets before the HS machines and this one was my favorite. I'm also envious of ur arms bam bam

[Maddy]

bam bam
looks to have
shrunk his arms

[BigAnt]

The plate loaded Hammer Strength make it easier for you to use more weight, on the DY Hammer Iso Row, many guys use 4-5 45lbs plates on each side for easy 10 reps, but not many guys do barbell rows with 405-495lbs.  You muscles do not know difference from machine to free weight to cables, but it does indentify with the load (weights) and more weights you use put more stress on the muscle which will increase size (if supps and food is on point)

[Coach is Back!]

Either you have the genetics or you don't. Hammers are good for isolation more than other machines but....it comes down to genetics. You could achive the same results with overhead BB or DB presses (and get one hell of a lot thicker)

[gh15]

all i can say is this ,,

if you are a bodybuild who can do 5 plates each side of the hammer 45s 5 plates each side for sets of 8-10....your delts are HUGE ,, period i dont care who you are ,, if you do 4 or 5 plates each side of the hammer for reps of 8-10 on a regular basis ....your delts are huge ,, they are one of your best bodyparts and ofcourse you are hormonized

gh15 approved

[Fitness4Life]

all i can say is this ,,

if you are a bodybuild who can do 5 plates each side of the hammer 45s 5 plates each side for sets of 8-10....your delts are HUGE ,, period i dont care who you are ,, if you do 4 or 5 plates each side of the hammer for reps of 8-10 on a regular basis ....your delts are huge ,, they are one of your best bodyparts and ofcourse you are hormonized

gh15 approved

I was doing them as a natural and my delts were mediocre

I'm still doing them NOW hormonized and they look great!

[gh15]

yes ,, with delts is the hormones that make the diff,, but! i always talk abotu hormonized bodybuild this is taken for granted ,, what i meant is the weight on the hammer ...if you do 4-5 plates each side for good sets you are one strong mother fucker and have very big delts and very strong thick shoulders,,if you do it when you are 190lb or 200lb 5'10 ...6%....then you are not only strong and huge delts but also look like a million bucks but this is competetive bodybuild we talk about

gh15 approved

[closeline]

nothing to write home about right now, three plates for bench presses and squats, and on the smith military presses too, around 10 reps all, been training more volume now. I think in one year I will be doing close to 4 plates each side if you consider the fact that I've been trainig for 1.5 year only after a 10 year lay off (worked out from 15-18 then started again at 28 last year) and will get more serious with the gear,

My arm workout weights are still crazy tho.

I watched a video of you doing some reps with like 350lbs very easily on the bench press I think, very strong, cant even try it right now.

And oh btw I have a national title in powerlifting in the brazilian teen category, been thinking about sending pics of the trophy and certificate to ron to get me updated to competitor status on the board 

man that s weak

[Bam-bam]

man that s weak

your mom, my balls

[Meso_z]

Whats you daily eating schedule man?

[the trainer]

i dont knwo if your name shoudl be the trainer my friend lol ,, dotn know about that lol

the biggest among us use big time mcahines esecially hammers to build our physiqes ,, especialy hammers lol

if it was up to sotrength as i said over and over in the past,, i would have been 10 time mr o by now ,, it has nothing to do with strength

gh15 approved

A bodybuilder with great genes can look great with using any king of equipment but when it comes to the top5 in the world you need all the edge you can get, maybe that is why you never made it to the top of bodybuilding.

[the trainer]

And for all you lazy pussies here who love to train on machines, go watch a video of ronnie training and understand what it takes to be the best.

[Bam-bam]

And for all you lazy pussies here who love to train on machines, go watch a video of ronnie training and understand what it takes to be the best.

 

what about Platz monster legs

[Coach is Back!]

The trainer is 100% correct.

[Bam-bam]

Whats you daily eating schedule man?

breakfest: bread and honey, 30g of whey, 6 egg whites, blueberries, banana, coffe
morning sneak: 20g of whey with yogurt
Lunch: saladad, lots of meat, some carbs
around 4 pm (when possible): 10-20g of whey
Pre workout: cereals with yogurt, banana, 15g of whey, 2 egg whites, coffee with milk
middle/end workout: 30g of whey, dry milk and some bs hipercaloric powder
end workout: meat
back home:  bread with honey, 6 egg whites, 15-30g of whey with yogurt


sometimes I eat less carbs depending on how Im feeling. During weekdendes I dont train and I eat a lot less carbs, specially on sunday.



what about you man?

[Meso_z]

breakfest: bread and honey, 30g of whey, 6 egg whites, blueberries, banana, coffe
morning lunch: 20g of whey with yogurt
Lunch: saladad, lots of meat, some carbs
around 4 pm (when possible): 10-20g of whey
Pre workout: cereals with yogurt, banana, 15g of whey, 2 egg whites, coffee with milk
middle/end workout: 30g of whey, dry milk and some bs hipercaloric powder
end workout: meat
back home:  bread with honey, 6 egg whites, 15-30g of whey with yogurt


sometimes I eat less carbs depending on how Im feeling. During weekdendes I dont train and I eat a lot less carbs, specially on sunday.



what about you man?

Breakfast is always 10 eggwhites, oats 100grms and 2-3 yolks/olive oil

then 2 more meals chicken and rice 200grms and 100 grms precooked weight for both..

and last meal I try to have no carbs but I always eat somthing "dirty", as long as I take some form of protein....eggwhites, chicken..

this is what i do lately..

And yes me too...on off days I try to eat less carbs...sometimes I fail to do so and I eat like shit....mostly out of boredom.

[Meso_z]

Also I have to say its good to see people who workout seriously eat all kinds of food...weird combinations like you bam bam, looking great man. 

[Coach is Back!]

what about Platz monster legs

Funny, I don't recall seeing Tom Platz (in person ) ever training on a smith machine. get off the machines and SQUAT.

[Meso_z]

Funny, I don't recall seeing Tom Platz (in person ) ever training on a smith machine. get off the machines and SQUAT.

Could you share some Tom Platz workouts in generall you have witnessed?

[gh15]

A bodybuilder with great genes can look great with using any king of equipment but when it comes to the top5 in the world you need all the edge you can get, maybe that is why you never made it to the top of bodybuilding.

thats the problelm ,, i have,, thats how i discovered that being strong mean nothing in bodybuild,, most of bodybuild at my level were weak !! WEAK! only a small number of us were truly strong,, small number!
strength mean nothing in bodybuild ,, it only mean that you wil get admiration look in gymnasium from youngsters,, thast where it ends,, it also add to ego and make you able to wear all kind of superhero hats whiel training and nto look redicoulous lol

gh15 approved

[g101]

Funny, I don't recall seeing Tom Platz (in person ) ever training on a smith machine. get off the machines and SQUAT.

ya keep squatting come back to me when you fuck up your knees and back and eventually injure yourself

fucking retard it's RESISTANCE that builds the muscle you can get the same results actually better results since you're isolating by doing hack squat / leg press

freeweights are NOT a must... at the beginning fine but after u don't need them and you can work your way around it, it will prolong your bodybuilding and avoid injury

once you're injured you're FUCKED. very hard to come back, very few do if any

[Schmoff]

thats the problelm ,, i have,, thats how i discovered that being strong mean nothing in bodybuild,, most of bodybuild at my level were weak !! WEAK! only a small number of us were truly strong,, small number!
strength mean nothing in bodybuild ,, it only mean that you wil get admiration look in gymnasium from youngsters,, thast where it ends,, it also add to ego and make you able to wear all kind of superhero hats whiel training and nto look redicoulous lol

gh15 approved

I second this

 

[Coach is Back!]

ya keep squatting come back to me when you fuck up your knees and back and eventually injure yourself

fucking retard it's RESISTANCE that builds the muscle you can get the same results actually better results since you're isolating by doing hack squat / leg press

freeweights are NOT a must... at the beginning fine but after u don't need them and you can work your way around it, it will prolong your bodybuilding and avoid injury

once you're injured you're FUCKED. very hard to come back, very few do if any

Been squatting for 35 + years and no back or knee problems except meniscus at 42. maybe you just don't know how train or squat.

[no one]

A bodybuilder with great genes can look great with using any king of equipment but when it comes to the top5 in the world you need all the edge you can get, maybe that is why you never made it to the top of bodybuilding.

yeah, and everyone that enters a gym wants to be top 5 in the world.

 

do yourself a favour and stop posting. you're becoming more and more stupid by the minute.

[g101]

Been squatting for 35 + years and no back or knee problems except meniscus at 42. maybe you just don't know how train or squat.

congratulations you want an award ?

you do NOT need to squat to have big legs