in my experience, todays clubs attract more weak and those who want the identity behind the patch because they have no sand of their own than legitimate hard men. i honestly in part sold my bike because i didnt want to be associated with todays crop of biker.
the oldtimers, the guys who came up in the 70's,80's and very early 90's. those were some bad men in those eras. you can tell the bad ones when you talk to them. its in their eyes. a deadness. some of the nicest guys i know and good friends of mine came up in those eras, and they all have that same emptyness in their eyes, but fucking nice guys. i dunno how to explain it.
anyway, more power to them- so they shoot up a starbucks. big fucking deal. blacks destroyed 1/2 of los angeles.