no hormones = no bodybuild! => a case study

[Mawse]

he said that that age natural growth hormone is still high and you can get 200lbs ripped with just steroids


everybody will admire you


"hard work and dedication" the whores buy it


he said

didn't you read the inspirational post just above yours? The man is 230lbs and almost single digits bf from eating right, getting a full 8 hours sleep and training consistantly for ten years. You clearly don't want it enough or you'd be just as big as him.

[jon cole]

5x115kg bench press
6x160kg deep high bar position squat (no belt or knee shits)
5x200kg =>5 minute rest => 1x220kg deadlift
phil heath clavicles
height 182cm bw 84-85kg
training years: a lot
result=>

bench press 10*120
squat 170*5 (oly style with a 2sec pause at the bottom)
dead 210*12 reps (bar paused at each reps)
chin 15 reps (at 106 kg bdw)
years of training 12
1.88 m / between 105/125 kg

those are my natty stat.
in 12 years i've done 4 short aas cycle (less than 8 week and low dose), the only benefit was in term of shape and muscularity,not too much in strenght.
i realised that you need to take more than "safe" dose to really move.

bbing is all drug.

[Karpaasi]

post your pics

This moment it will not serve a purpose. I'm pretty much unknown here although I've been here on years. So I post my pics later.

most likely 16-20%

That would true assessment for most of the people who claim what I said. In three years of training I was about 206bs/17-20%(2004). I started out weighing 135lbs.

[Adam86]

I always trained naturally and i got to 197 pounds at 5'10'' dont know bodyfat but about very low under 9%

[Karpaasi]

I always trained naturally and i got to 197 pounds at 5'10'' dont know bodyfat but about very low under 9%

You sure are a ripped giant! Huge stats for a lifetime natural.