Author Topic: I hope Miller kicks the shit out of Bisping!  (Read 8918 times)

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« Reply #50 on: December 04, 2011, 08:30:37 AM »
Coach, why did Mayhem gas as early as the first round?  He had great cardio in his previous fights? Last night he just became a sitting duck for Bisping? Very disappointing!

Bisping has the weakest hands I've ever seen. He could of really teed off on Mayhem.

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« Reply #51 on: December 04, 2011, 08:32:20 AM »
Coach, why did Mayhem gas as early as the first round?  He had great cardio in his previous fights? Last night he just became a sitting duck for Bisping? Very disappointing!

He was Way too excited for this fight. Too much emotion. "adrenaline" dump. Mayhem can go 5 rounds. It's a shame it happened. Next fight will be better. Props to Bisping though sadly lol.

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« Reply #52 on: December 04, 2011, 08:38:51 AM »
May I?

Mayhem is a "gym fighter" much like David Terrell was

But Johhny his record is pretty impressive??  He has never looked that out-classed against better fighters than Bisping? But once he gassed last night he looked like a drunk defenseless rag doll? He is much better than that?

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« Reply #53 on: December 04, 2011, 08:42:18 AM »
He was Way too excited for this fight. Too much emotion. "adrenaline" dump. Mayhem can go 5 rounds. It's a shame it happened. Next fight will be better. Props to Bisping though sadly lol.

But Swede, he's been fighting for 10 years? He just beat Sakuraba and has fought in other bigs fights. Sonnen? Shields? Etc?

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« Reply #54 on: December 04, 2011, 08:43:03 AM »
But Johhny his record is pretty impressive??  He has never looked that out-classed against better fighters than Bisping? But once he gassed last night he looked like a drunk defenseless rag doll? He is much better than that?
Maybe he underestimated Bisping and thought he was going to walk through him, and let himself get too worked up thinking it was gonna be easy?

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« Reply #55 on: December 04, 2011, 08:45:46 AM »
But Swede, he's been fighting for 10 years? He just beat Sakuraba and has fought in other bigs fights. Sonnen? Shields? Etc?

This might Still be the first time its Personal for Mayhem. Sakuaraba didn't talk shit for 6 weeks , sheilds didn't talk shit for 6 weeks, no one hes faced talked shit and insulted him and tried getting into his head every single day for 6 weeks before.

Bisping started the fight of with (just before the fight) taking his mouthpiece out and shouting something. Right before the fight started. Mayhem let Bisping get to him. And thats Imo what probably cost him the fight.
Some people work on anger But this is why time and time and time again you hear "Dont fight with emotions" "dont make it personal" because it can obviously make someone gas within the damn minute. Someone who has Done 5 rounds more then one timne before. and knows Exactly what kind of shape he needs to be in and also said this is the best training camp yet. So cardio Shouldn't have been an issue in round 2 already.

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« Reply #56 on: December 04, 2011, 08:49:21 AM »
But Johhny his record is pretty impressive??  He has never looked that out-classed against better fighters than Bisping? But once he gassed last night he looked like a drunk defenseless rag doll? He is much better than that?

the guy does have a good record and it is not a "padded" record

however, he is a very gifted Jiu Jitsu player who, in my opinion, takes his talent for granted and doesn't take his preparation for fights seriously

During "open mat" on a saturday morning, Mayhem is a god who does unreal stuff
in the spotlight in the big stage (the UFC) he is 0-2.....this is why i give him the "gym fighter" label

Terrell was the same way

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« Reply #57 on: December 04, 2011, 08:51:38 AM »
the guy does have a good record and it is not a "padded" record

however, he is a very gifted Jiu Jitsu player who, in my opinion, takes his talent for granted and doesn't take his preparation for fights seriously

During "open mat" on a saturday morning, Mayhem is a god who does unreal stuff
in the spotlight in the big stage (the UFC) he is 0-2.....this is why i give him the "gym fighter" label

Terrell was the same way

gym fighter lable because he lost in the ufc to GSP ???

Im certian next fight will be a new Miller. or the Real miller rather.

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« Reply #58 on: December 04, 2011, 08:52:46 AM »
gym fighter lable because he lost in the ufc to GSP ???


it wasn't the loss so much as how he fought

he didn't take that fight seriously at all.....anyone remember the failed kip up he did during that fight?

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« Reply #59 on: December 04, 2011, 08:57:29 AM »
it wasn't the loss so much as how he fought

he didn't take that fight seriously at all.....anyone remember the failed kip up he did during that fight?

maybe he had your mom on top of him?


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« Reply #60 on: December 04, 2011, 08:58:28 AM »
maybe he had your mom on top of him?


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« Reply #61 on: December 04, 2011, 12:46:19 PM »
Hope Bisping wins.
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« Reply #62 on: December 04, 2011, 12:49:16 PM »
Miller  looked horrible.

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« Reply #63 on: December 04, 2011, 01:01:48 PM »
Coach, why did Mayhem gas as early as the first round?  He had great cardio in his previous fights? Last night he just became a sitting duck for Bisping? Very disappointing!

Man I have no idea. I know he usually fights at 170 but he still had a looooong time to prepare for this. There should be no excuse unless he just got lazy with this training. I know he did his S&C with Krzysztof Soszynsk and Todd Norman. Either Jason didn't listen or they really fucked him up. But I know both of those guys and they're good. Todd used to be the S&C coach for the Mighty Ducks.

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« Reply #64 on: December 04, 2011, 01:04:06 PM »
He was Way too excited for this fight. Too much emotion. "adrenaline" dump. Mayhem can go 5 rounds. It's a shame it happened. Next fight will be better. Props to Bisping though sadly lol.

Horseshit, you're repeating what Rogan said and I told my wife he was full of shit.

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« Reply #65 on: December 04, 2011, 01:05:59 PM »
, you're repeating what Rogan said

Are you surprised Coach ? that's his idol.

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« Reply #66 on: December 04, 2011, 01:07:09 PM »
Horseshit, you're repeating what Rogan said and I told my wife he was full of shit.

Im repeating what I thought.. And rogan mentioned. So why would someone that Knows what it takes to go 5 rounds (twice) all of a sudden gas in the First round when he claims and looked honest when he said it what it was the best training camp yet and it was the first really structured one? He would have just said nothing if the camp went bad.

So Im sticking with what I said. A lot of guys have had that problem in the ufc. Mayhem shouldn't though due to the experience. But I have heard a Lot of wrestlers say the same thing.. Best shape ever and then they let it get personal and gassed.

He Knows what it takes to go 5 rounds and I could "Promise" that he made Sure in his UFC return the most Important fight of his life that he could go for more then one round before gassing if something wasn't up.  ::)
How many times have you seen mayhem angry before a fight? which is the first thing I noticed.

So your opinion is that he didnt' care about training and showed up out of shape? in his ufc return and most important fight of his life? since that the only other explination.

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« Reply #67 on: December 04, 2011, 01:27:10 PM »
Im repeating what I thought.. And rogan mentioned. So why would someone that Knows what it takes to go 5 rounds (twice) all of a sudden gas in the First round when he claims and looked honest when he said it what it was the best training camp yet and it was the first really structured one? He would have just said nothing if the camp went bad.

So Im sticking with what I said. A lot of guys have had that problem in the ufc. Mayhem shouldn't though due to the experience. But I have heard a Lot of wrestlers say the same thing.. Best shape ever and then they let it get personal and gassed.

He Knows what it takes to go 5 rounds and I could "Promise" that he made Sure in his UFC return the most Important fight of his life that he could go for more then one round before gassing if something wasn't up.  ::)
How many times have you seen mayhem angry before a fight? which is the first thing I noticed.

So your opinion is that he didnt' care about training and showed up out of shape? in his ufc return and most important fight of his life? since that the only other explination.

You go with that.

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« Reply #68 on: December 04, 2011, 01:28:19 PM »
You go with that.

I am. Where do you think Im wrong and what would you say instead? Since you called it "Horseshit," ..

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« Reply #69 on: December 04, 2011, 01:30:34 PM »
I am. Where do you think Im wrong and what would you say instead? Since you called it "Horseshit," ..
Ive done it in sparring, especially during times I think im going to wipe the floor with whoever Im sparring with.

The guys I thought Id whip, Id get overconfident, forget to control myself, and caught myself gassing try to finish it early.

So it IS possible, but he shouldnt have, being a pro fighter.

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« Reply #70 on: December 04, 2011, 01:32:09 PM »
Ive done it in sparring, especially during times I think im going to wipe the floor with whoever Im sparring with.

The guys I thought Id whip, Id get overconfident, forget to control myself, and caught myself gassing try to finish it early.

So it IS possible, but he shouldnt have, being a pro fighter.

Agreed. But biggest fight in his life and Bisping has been getting under his skin for 6 weeks. =)

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« Reply #71 on: December 04, 2011, 01:38:38 PM »
Agreed. But biggest fight in his life and Bisping has been getting under his skin for 6 weeks. =)
Swede , if he was conditioned to fight 25 minutes ,there is not amount of anger, nerves , adrenaline .....etc .  that will make you gas in less than 5 minutes.

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« Reply #72 on: December 04, 2011, 01:40:39 PM »
Swede , if he was conditioned to fight 25 minutes ,there is not amount of anger, nerves , adrenaline .....etc .  that will make you gas in less than 5 minutes.

Combined with the fact that he went hard in the first and spent energy trying to hold bisping down I would say yes, there is. Cant claim I know for sure though.
Sounds A lot more plausible compared to him not training enough for the most important fight of his life.

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« Reply #73 on: December 04, 2011, 01:42:02 PM »
Swede , if he was conditioned to fight 25 minutes ,there is not amount of anger, nerves , adrenaline .....etc .  that will make you gas in less than 5 minutes.
Thats what I was thinking.
I gassed from pushing myself to hard to fast in sparring, but hell Im a nobody, and Ive NEVER trained to fight for 25 minutes straight.
I didnt watch the fight, but I cant imagine that he was pushing himself so effing far past his training level that he gassed in 1/5th the time.

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« Reply #74 on: December 04, 2011, 01:42:40 PM »
Combined with the fact that he went hard in the first and spent energy trying to take bisping down. I would say yes, there is. Cant claim I know though.
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