Author Topic: Phil Heath - How many Sandows will he win? (Read 4996 times)

Voland · « **Reply #25 on:** December 09, 2011, 07:07:54 AM »

2 max.

Spicoli · « **Reply #26 on:** December 09, 2011, 07:07:59 AM »

Quote from: wes on December 09, 2011, 06:47:31 AM

Who cares?

x2

MCWAY · « **Reply #27 on:** December 09, 2011, 09:13:33 AM »

Quote from: Tito24 on December 09, 2011, 06:21:11 AM

hes lucky that nowadays you dont have real good contenders anymore otherwise he would place out of top 6.

And who would these "real good contenders" be?

Tito24 · « **Reply #28 on:** December 09, 2011, 10:05:36 AM »

Quote from: MCWAY on December 09, 2011, 09:13:33 AM

And who would these "real good contenders" be?

Papper · « **Reply #29 on:** December 09, 2011, 10:20:33 AM »

He will win until the judges wake up one day and realizes hes all arms

MCWAY · « **Reply #30 on:** December 09, 2011, 12:03:11 PM »

Quote from: Tito24 on December 09, 2011, 10:05:36 AM

One of those real contenders is Dexter Jackson, who Heath has defeated at least twice. I don't think he'd have a problem against Sarcev or El Sonbaty. The way he looks now, he can go toe-to-toe with Levrone, Wheeler, and Coleman (all of whom have been beaten by Cutler, who just lost to Heath).

kiwiol · « **Reply #31 on:** December 09, 2011, 12:31:35 PM »

4-6 would be good and well deserved. I like Phil.

Parker · « **Reply #32 on:** December 09, 2011, 12:46:04 PM »

Quote from: MCWAY on December 09, 2011, 12:03:11 PM

One of those real contenders is Dexter Jackson, who Heath has defeated at least twice. I don't think he'd have a problem against Sarcev or El Sonbaty. The way he looks now, he can go toe-to-toe with Levrone, Wheeler, and Coleman (all of whom have been beaten by Cutler, who just lost to Heath).

Ronnie lost to Cutler because he beat himself, Flex was sick...Prime Flex wouldn't get beat by Cutler's best...Cutler is thr most gifted bber of all time.
Heath would beat Levrone from the back---in terms of detail. Flex's presence and taper are too much for Phil...and they are about the same in back detail---Phil's lower back, glutes, hams are in better condition, but Flex's shape nudges him...Sarcev and Nasser, Phil has them beat---Sarcev is abs and good legs, Nasser is good from the front and huge.

kiwiol · « **Reply #33 on:** December 09, 2011, 12:53:56 PM »

Quote from: GangstaLean on December 09, 2011, 12:46:04 PM

Ronnie lost to Cutler because he beat himself, Flex was sick...Prime Flex wouldn't get beat by Cutler's best...Cutler is thr most gifted bber of all time.
Heath would beat Levrone from the back---in terms of detail. Flex's presence and taper are too much for Phil...and they are about the same in back detail---Phil's lower back, glutes, hams are in better condition, but Flex's shape nudges him...Sarcev and Nasser, Phil has them beat---Sarcev is abs and good legs, Nasser is good from the front and huge.

It would be very close between 2011 Phil and Flex from that show. Flex has a slightly better shape/structure, but Phil is a little more muscular and more conditioned, which always rates higher in BB contests, so I've got him beating Flex. Phil's RLS is also a lot better than Flex's. Ronnie is the only guy in that lineup who'd beat Phil, IMO.

TheOne · « **Reply #34 on:** December 09, 2011, 12:56:29 PM »

He will win 2 only.

Parker · « **Reply #35 on:** December 09, 2011, 01:00:56 PM »

Quote from: kiwiol on December 09, 2011, 12:53:56 PM

It would be very close between 2011 Phil and Flex from that show. Flex has a slightly better shape/structure, but Phil is a little more muscular and more conditioned, which always rates higher in BB contests, so I've got him beating Flex. Phil's RLS is also a lot better than Flex's. Ronnie is the only guy in that lineup who'd beat Phil, IMO.

What edges flex over better bbers is his "mystique" as Chris Cormier calls it...That NY judge and promoter Steve Weinberger says that Flex just standing there looks awesome---Flex at 215-224 is virtually unbeatable---only Dorian can claim to have beat him at that weight...(I forgot what he weighed when Charles Chairmonte beat him in 93, but he was watery). Flex above 224 would get beaten by Phil...

kiwiol · « **Reply #36 on:** December 09, 2011, 01:04:54 PM »

Quote from: GangstaLean on December 09, 2011, 01:00:56 PM

What edges flex over better bbers is his "mystique" as Chris Cormier calls it...That NY judge and promoter Steve Weinberger says that Flex just standing there looks awesome---Flex at 215-224 is virtually unbeatable---only Dorian can claim to have beat him at that weight...(I forgot what he weighed when Charles Chairmonte beat him in 93, but he was watery). Flex above 224 would get beaten by Phil...

Yep, he definitely looked better at a lighter weight than he did in 99, weighing around 245 and loaded with Synthol or oil or whatever it is. His look is why he beat Cormier in the 99 Olympia, I think, 'cause Cormier looked very good in that contest and had the better conditioning.

Dr Dutch · « **Reply #37 on:** December 09, 2011, 01:07:40 PM »

Quote from: GangstaLean on December 09, 2011, 01:00:56 PM

What edges flex over better bbers is his "mystique" as Chris Cormier calls it...

He still got that mystique.....

TheOne · « **Reply #38 on:** December 09, 2011, 01:09:26 PM »

The mystique lies in his oil bags...sorry I meant arms.

Parker · « **Reply #39 on:** December 09, 2011, 01:10:44 PM »

Quote from: dutchguy on December 09, 2011, 01:07:40 PM

He still got that mystique.....

Ah, the "before" shot, why don't you post the "after" shot?

RustyTrenbolona · « **Reply #40 on:** December 09, 2011, 01:17:23 PM »

Phil will wake up one day soon and realize he has advanced Palumboism.

Dr Dutch · « **Reply #41 on:** December 10, 2011, 12:13:39 PM »

Quote from: GangstaLean on December 09, 2011, 01:10:44 PM

Ah, the "before" shot, why don't you post the "after" shot?

When the day comes I will post a pic from after he is shot...

Parker · « **Reply #42 on:** December 10, 2011, 12:14:54 PM »

Quote from: dutchguy on December 10, 2011, 12:13:39 PM

When the day comes I will post a pic from after he is shot...

Shadow-Khan Ninjas do not like to use guns.

Wiggs · « **Reply #43 on:** December 10, 2011, 12:23:38 PM »

It all depends on some fellas who are up and coming and potential threats.

Kai is still a threat (not likely)
The African (can't remember his name) the one that wouldnt "peel" for Lonnie.
Even Scent-of-panties is a threat

I believe some fella will come from no where rise through the ranks fast and be better than Heath but less than Ronnie.

I think Heath will win 3 straight.

dantelis · « **Reply #44 on:** December 10, 2011, 12:23:59 PM »

Quote from: CatInHat on December 09, 2011, 05:52:59 AM

More than 4 less than 6

2 and out.

Parker · « **Reply #45 on:** December 10, 2011, 12:36:06 PM »

Quote from: Wiggs on December 10, 2011, 12:23:38 PM

It all depends on some fellas who are up and coming and potential threats.

Kai is still a threat (not likely)
The African (can't remember his name) the one that wouldnt "peel" for Lonnie.
Even Scent-of-panties is a threat

I believe some fella will come from no where rise through the ranks fast and be better than Heath but less than Ronnie.

I think Heath will win 3 straight.

Lionel Beyeke.

WillGrant · « **Reply #46 on:** December 10, 2011, 02:12:12 PM »

Who ?

MikMaq · « **Reply #47 on:** December 10, 2011, 02:52:50 PM »

Quote from: Wiggs on December 10, 2011, 12:23:38 PM

It all depends on some fellas who are up and coming and potential threats.

Kai is still a threat (not likely)
The African (can't remember his name) the one that wouldnt "peel" for Lonnie.
Even Scent-of-panties is a threat

I believe some fella will come from no where rise through the ranks fast and be better than Heath but less than Ronnie.

I think Heath will win 3 straight.

I'll agree that he'll get next year for certain, they'll let him win until someone with a undeniable claim to the title shows up until then they'll happily keep him on top.

My guess is a denis wolf kind of build will replace him, I doubt they'll give it up to just anyone after mr wide hips.

Parker · « **Reply #48 on:** December 10, 2011, 02:59:20 PM »

Quote from: MikMaq on December 10, 2011, 02:52:50 PM

I'll agree that he'll get next year for certain, they'll let him win until someone with a undeniable claim to the title shows up until then they'll happily keep him on top.

My guess is a denis wolf kind of build will replace him, I doubt they'll give it up to just anyone after mr wide hips.

Im seeing Big Ben mature, people are saying Evan, but he's too scared to compete against a full line up...plus he's got a wide waist...the schmoes love him as well. Kai, Ben, Beyeke, Curry, and a few others.

Wiggs · « **Reply #49 on:** December 10, 2011, 03:01:46 PM »

Quote from: GangstaLean on December 10, 2011, 02:59:20 PM

Im seeing Big Ben mature, people are saying Evan, but he's too scared to compete against a full line up...plus he's got a wide waist...the schmoes love him as well. Kai, Ben, Beyeke, Curry, and a few others.

Curry aint doin' shit...he's too tiny. H makes Dexter look like a mass monster.