Thought this was interesting... Did Lee Haney ever do steroids?

[wes]

Vey possible....especially since Haney had the edge in terms of being the incumbent champ...

Bigger  question to me is whether Arnold would have won 11 had he kept competing, or if Haney would have finally ended HIS streak?

I think Arnold could have easily kept winning if he still had a mind to compete after 1980.

Look at the progress and condition he attained in such a short period of time for the 80 Mr. O.

Seeing Arnold battling Haney would have been epic.

Oh well,if my aunt had balls,she`d be my uncle!! 

[littleboyblue]

Oh please like Haney wasn't doing everything the others weren't. He was the biggest of the lot for years, doing less than them? LOL

This, exactly!  haney was using tons of juice! should've seen him at the '90 drug tested Olympia, I was there. he looked like a total stickman. Only one who didn't was Mike Christian, who looked awesome in that awful "drug tested" show.  He says "something died inside?"  Come on...you know he'd been juiced since a teen!  Not only that, but was known as the guy who began using A LOT of GH as well...a lot more then a lot of guys in his era. Today, it doesn't even look as though he'd ever even touched a weight in his life. Yeah, guess he had a "good foundation",,lol.   don't get me wrong, I love the guy, but he, like everyone else, was sauced to the gills!  Dorian just took it to another level in terms of his grainy "look" which really cannot be duplicated just through upping the dosage or more extreme usage, it's just his genetics...he was a freak! Just as haney was in his era.

[Wiggs]

This, exactly!  haney was using tons of juice! should've seen him at the '90 drug tested Olympia, I was there. he looked like a total stickman. Only one who didn't was Mike Christian, who looked awesome in that awful "drug tested" show.  He says "something died inside?"  Come on...you know he'd been juiced since a teen!  Not only that, but was known as the guy who began using A LOT of GH as well...a lot more then a lot of guys in his era. Today, it doesn't even look as though he'd ever even touched a weight in his life. Yeah, guess he had a "good foundation",,lol.   don't get me wrong, I love the guy, but he, like everyone else, was sauced to the gills!  Dorian just took it to another level in terms of his grainy "look" which really cannot be duplicated just through upping the dosage or more extreme usage, it's just his genetics...he was a freak! Just as haney was in his era.

Apparently you didn't read my response because I didn't deny Haney was juiced to the gills by those times standards but when Yates came along he redefined juiced to the gills in what he used and how much and I have no doubt that Coleman was using more than Yates when he was 287 and 294...

Dorian was the original drug monster no doubt...

[epic_alien]

His " problem" was that he didn't feel as though he needed to qualify as a pro in the IFBB because he beat a bunch of second rate BBers in the AAU....

you being one of them

[WillGrant]

There was ALOT more than just EQ inside Haneys Body.. remember it also came @ 50mg per ml back then, designed for horses.

He was using the same as everyone else.

[Wiggs]

There was ALOT more than just EQ inside Haneys Body.. remember it also came @ 50mg per ml back then, designed for horses.

He was using the same as everyone else.

No one said he just used eq....it says that was the staple of his drug use then.

[chess315]

I'm pretty sure they reached the top of steroid abuse in the 70s. The only thing dorian did was bring up the abuse of the other drugs to a higher level. I imagine dorian was one of the first gh mega dosers. Its funny a lot of kids came up at that time mattrozo and demayo that seemed to be some of the other first serious gh abusers  you knew when you seen them guys there was something different about them I remember as a teen seeing mike mattarozo for the first time in utter shock. That to me stood out as the ultimate freak.

[WillGrant]

No one said he just used eq....it says that was the staple of his drug use then.

Are ok - so his fave 

[dyslexic]

Waiting for the "All Tren and cadaver GH" replies...


Haney was a guinea pig for Dan Duchaine too.

[Figo]

They all used a shitload of evrything they could get, or knew about

After that it came down to response, and quality of product



If haney had been around in the late 90s, hed have looked like ronnie, but with smaller arms

[MORTALCOIL]

This, exactly!  haney was using tons of juice! should've seen him at the '90 drug tested Olympia, I was there. he looked like a total stickman. Only one who didn't was Mike Christian, who looked awesome in that awful "drug tested" show.  He says "something died inside?"  Come on...you know he'd been juiced since a teen!  Not only that, but was known as the guy who began using A LOT of GH as well...a lot more then a lot of guys in his era. Today, it doesn't even look as though he'd ever even touched a weight in his life. Yeah, guess he had a "good foundation",,lol.   don't get me wrong, I love the guy, but he, like everyone else, was sauced to the gills!  Dorian just took it to another level in terms of his grainy "look" which really cannot be duplicated just through upping the dosage or more extreme usage, it's just his genetics...he was a freak! Just as haney was in his era.

Actually, to me, Labrada looked better than all of them in that 90s 'O. And right, for years, Haney was the biggest of them all, he was the mass monster of his time. There's little doubt that he was doing more than guys like DeMey, Buchanan or Paris. And Dorian was not the first one to take it to the extreme, it was Momo and to some extent Gaspari too. But Momo was too short to be a real threat and Gaspari has a shitty structure. Then came Dorian.

[mesmorph78]

Achim Albrecht and he was 260lbs 

throw milos in there too

[johnny1]

These pics are from 1992 , he already had the size , he was just losing it all dieting

God damn those back shots of Yates before the 1992 O were incredible on a side note IMO i doubt Lee as Great a Champion as he was, was going to Keep beating Yates from 1992 onwards...1992 Possible...1993 onwards forget it, new era in Massive Size WITH Muscularity, Conditioning and with new Genetic Freeks the likes of Levrone, Dillet, Wheeler, Comier etc now on the bb curcit would of given Haney all sorts of Problems AFTER 1992.... Flex @ the Ironman in 93 would of more than likey been to much for Haney and would of really Pushed Yates hard @ the 93 O IF he showed up in that particular Condition... as it was he didnt... and for the rest of his BB days he like the rest of them was always fighting for 2nd @ the O behind Yates then Coleman.

[Schmoe Buster]

Discusted has mentioned before that Haney liked EQ, WW also said Haney would use Anadrol everyday for many months

[Wiggs]

God damn those back shots of Yates before the 1992 O were incredible on a side note IMO i doubt Lee as Great a Champion as he was, was going to Keep beating Yates from 1992 onwards...1992 Possible...1993 onwards forget it, new era in Massive Size WITH Muscularity, Conditioning and with new Genetic Freeks the likes of Levrone, Dillet, Wheeler, Comier etc now on the bb curcit would of given Haney all sorts of Problems AFTER 1992.... Flex @ the Ironman in 93 would of more than likey been to much for Haney and would of really Pushed Yates hard @ the 93 O IF he showed up in that particular Condition... as it was he didnt... and for the rest of his BB days he like the rest of them was always fighting for 2nd @ the O behind Yates then Coleman.

no dude...everything points otherwise...Haney was getting better every year...He admitted he finally learned how to peak on his last show and he was only 31....He would have crushed Flex, Levrone and everyone else the only real challenge would have been Yates...Well never know but very fun to  discuss.

[L.L]

Someone's got a crush on Lee

[Swlabr]

What the fuck, what idiot added "Did Lee Haney ever do steroids?" to the thread title?

[MORTALCOIL]

no dude...everything points otherwise...Haney was getting better every year...He admitted he finally learned how to peak on his last show and he was only 31....He would have crushed Flex, Levrone and everyone else the only real challenge would have been Yates...Well never know but very fun to  discuss.

Debatable. Though 91 was clearly his best showing, don't forget that he wasn't that impressive the few years before (89 and the drug tested 90- most people who were there would have given it to Labrada it seems). So he rebounded in an extraordinary manner but he was better in 84-85 than during the Gaspari runner up years.

[Wiggs]

Someone's got a crush on Lee

Yes, tell your mother Lee is a happily married man.

[Wiggs]

Debatable. Though 91 was clearly his best showing, don't forget that he wasn't that impressive the few years before (89 and the drug tested 90- most people who were there would have given it to Labrada it seems). So he rebounded in an extraordinary manner but he was better in 84-85 than during the Gaspari runner up years.

Come on man, you're really going to count a drug tested show?
lol...Labrada would have never beaten Haney and neither would have Gaspari....one midget (although a legendary midget Labrada at 5'5 180 tops and Gaspari at 5'7 (never cared enough about him to know his weight but clearly lower 200s or 190s. vs. 5'11 245.....It was never close.

You can call it rebound but the dude got better every year he competed minus the drug tested year...He'd wipe the floor with Dorian in 92 and 93 would have been the battle of battles....I'm a Yates fan despite his setbacks and gifts.

[QuakerOats]

Come on man, you're really going to count a drug tested show?
lol...Labrada would have never beaten Haney and neither would have Gaspari....one midget (although a legendary midget Labrada at 5'5 180 tops and Gaspari at 5'7 (never cared enough about him to know his weight but clearly lower 200s or 190s. vs. 5'11 245.....It was never close.

You can call it rebound but the dude got better every year he competed minus the drug tested year...He'd wipe the floor with Dorian in 92 and 93 would have been the battle of battles....I'm a Yates fan despite his setbacks and gifts.

are you old enough to remember Animal Kingdom on ESPN, Wiggs?

[MORTALCOIL]

Come on man, you're really going to count a drug tested show?
lol...Labrada would have never beaten Haney and neither would have Gaspari....one midget (although a legendary midget Labrada at 5'5 180 tops and Gaspari at 5'7 (never cared enough about him to know his weight but clearly lower 200s or 190s. vs. 5'11 245.....It was never close.

You can call it rebound but the dude got better every year he competed minus the drug tested year...He'd wipe the floor with Dorian in 92 and 93 would have been the battle of battles....I'm a Yates fan despite his setbacks and gifts.

89 was not drug tested and Labrada's only shortcoming (no pun intended) was his height. Other than that, he was better than Haney. What I'm saying is that Haney's was actually somehow inconsistent even though he dominated his era (same for Dorian if you thinkg 94 and 97 or Coleman 2000 and 2002).

[QuakerOats]

89 was not drug tested and Labrada's only shortcoming (no pun intended) was his height. Other than that, he was better than Haney. What I'm saying is that Haney's was actually somehow inconsistent even though he dominated his era (same for Dorian if you thinkg 94 and 97 or Coleman 2000 and 2002).

90 was the testing year, seems like everyone was softer and smaller that year.

[Wiggs]

are you old enough to remember Animal Kingdom on ESPN, Wiggs?

I'm 32 I remember a show on the Christian Channel and vaguely remember a workout show...
I used to watch Flex magazine workout with Shawn Ray and American Muscle tv show....good times.

[wes]

"Last set,best set" !!

Great show.