You are wrong if you say protein powder is garbage.

[wes]

actually that s egg protein POWDER

i know many competitors using eg protein powder because they fear water retention from lactose (myth LOL)

Years ago I used to buy Milk + Egg protein powder......stuff tasted great..........this was long before they came out with whey.

[closeline]

really?

unflavored egg protein (pure) was the worst taste on any bodybuilding food i ever tried

[pillowtalk]

Don't know who Alice is but that was a genuine question. Forget it though.

I have already forgoten it dickhead.
30 odd posts & you want to know what I  do?? Fuck off NOOB , you are about as relevant here as the next sub-100 post account   yes "my factory" it gets to me in sacks with zero graphics/claims on it. Just country of origin, batch NO. & contents -  "my factory" then turns it into other products that we do put graphics/claims on. If I say this contains xxxxgm of Whey, that is what it contains, 100%!!
HTH.

WPC80 = Google it fuck-tard.

Oh, & fuck off while you are there.........

PT

[pillowtalk]

Years ago I used to buy Milk + Egg protein powder......stuff tasted great..........this was long before they came out with whey.

Amino Acid Profile per 100g Egg Whites

Alanine 5.49g Isoleucine 5.0g Serine 6.07g
Arginine 4.54g Leucine 6.80g Threonine 3.41g
Aspartic Acid 6.09g Lysine 4.64g Tryptophan 1.18g
Cystine 1.88g Methionine 3.01g Tyrosine 3.21g
Glutamic 10.89g Phenylalanine 4.94g Valine 6.02g
Histidine 1.67g Proline 2.92g Glycine 2.89g

Amino Acid Profile per 100g WPC80 Whey
 http://usdec.files.cms-plus.com/DGN/AbstractPDFs/NutrCompOfWheyProducts.pdf

Whey Protein Quality

Whey ingredients are considered to be a high quality source of protein, whether measured by Protein Digestibility (PD), the proportion of protein that is absorbed by the body, Biological Value (BV),the proportion of absorbed protein that is retained for growth and maintenance, Protein Efficiency Ratio (PER), the gain in body weight per unit (g) of protein consumed, or Protein Digestibility Corrected Amino Acid Score (PDCAAS), which compares the amino acid profile to the amino acid requirements for a child between ages two and five, adjusting for digestibility. To view a graphic comparison of whey with other proteins, click here.

Whey contains all the essential amino acids in the proper proportions, making it an excellent source of nutrition for both therapeutic and supplementary foods. Most amino acid levels in whey exceed Food and Agriculture Organization/World Health Organization (FAO/WHO) nutritional intake recommendations, both for children aged 2 to 5 and for adults. Whey contains among the highest concentration of branched-chain amino acids (BCAAs) available from any natural food protein source.

Whey protein is comprised of a number of individual bioactive components, or fractions, which include alpha-lactalbumin, beta-lactoglobulin, serum proteins, lactoferrin and a series of immunoglobulins. Individually, these fractions are known to be immune-system enhancing. In addition, they support a wide range of bioactive functions, such as iron binding, tissue repair, maintenance of intestinal integrity, resistance to pathogens and elimination of toxins. For more on the physiological effects of whey protein fraction.

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[notsureifsrs]

whey isolate has a lot of bcaa, you don t need extra bcaa  

3hours is better than 2, every 2 is to short

Are you serious?

[closeline]

Are you serious?

#

no, i try to fool you 

but obviously it s not possible steven

[pillowtalk]

Glutamic acid content per 100gm

Egg White = 10.89g

WPC80 = 13.28g

Every 100g of WPC80 will give you 2.39g more of Glutamic acid. Glutamic acid is the most prevalent amino acid in human muscle tissue.

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[pillowtalk]

Proportion of protein that is absorbed by the body

Egg = 97%

Soybeans = 78%

Milk = 95%

Casein = 100%

WPC80 = 100%

http://usdec.files.cms-plus.com/DGN/AbstractPDFs/DaviscoContent.pdf

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[pillowtalk]

Whey Protein Concentrate 80%

Whey protein concentrate 80% (WPC80) is made by removing a specific amount of non-protein constituents from whey so that the finished product has a minimum of 80% protein. The protein content will vary between 80-82%, depending upon the supplier.

WPC80 is a highly concentrated form of whey protein with a much reduced level of lactose compared to WPC34. It also has the lowest sodium content of all the dairy ingredients. WPC80 is beneficial in products where the focus is providing a high quality source of protein with lower or reduced carbohydrate levels.

Due to its higher protein level, WPC80 contains over twice the amount of BCAAs than WPC34. This is beneficial when the goal is to prevent muscle loss and build new lean muscle tissue. It is also important in the development of products with immune enhancing properties. The bioactive components in whey are known to enhance immune health and higher concentrations of protein are often preferred in this type of application. The combination of high BCAA content and easy-to-digest protein makes WPC80 an ideal ingredient from a nutritional perspective.

WPC80 performs well in many applications as an egg replacement from both a functional and nutritional perspective. The finished product will contain the desired level of high quality protein and the need for traditional emulsifiers, such as egg yolk powder, may be eliminated. In some situations this may yield a safer product as it avoids any potential contamination associated with eggs.

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[pillowtalk]

Some-one please do tell me (after reading the above) why WPC80 is shit & Egg Whites are the Dogs nads 

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[WillGrant]

Proportion of protein that is absorbed by the body

Egg = 97%

Soybeans = 78%

Milk = 95%

Casein = 100%

WPC80 = 100%

http://usdec.files.cms-plus.com/DGN/AbstractPDFs/DaviscoContent.pdf

PT

This has been updated - sorry I dont have it in PDF for you but the whole egg is now rated at 100 and certain wheys ay 110 - 150 thats how good whey is

[Oly15]

I have already forgoten it dickhead.
30 odd posts & you want to know what I  do?? Fuck off NOOB , you are about as relevant here as the next sub-100 post account   yes "my factory" it gets to me in sacks with zero graphics/claims on it. Just country of origin, batch NO. & contents -  "my factory" then turns it into other products that we do put graphics/claims on. If I say this contains xxxxgm of Whey, that is what it contains, 100%!!
HTH.

WPC80 = Google it fuck-tard.

Oh, & fuck off while you are there.........

PT

The real question is...






























Why you mad tho?

[pillowtalk]

This has been updated - sorry I dont have it in PDF for you but the whole egg is now rated at 100 and certain wheys ay 110 - 150 thats how good whey is

Thanks Will. I want to know why some are saying that Whey is crap & E/W's are the shit  I can find ZERO data to support this claim.

BCAA's Grams/100g Protein

WPI = 23

WPC80 = 22

Egg White = 21

Milk Protein = 20

Soy Protein= 18

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[pillowtalk]

The real question is...............

Why you mad tho?

I will now proceed to show you how relevant you are by ignoring everyone of the subsequent posts you make 
Good luck getting to 1k posts.

PT

[pillowtalk]

Biological Value (BV) 0/120

Whey Protein Isolate = 100

Whole Egg = 100

Milk = 91

Egg White = 88

Fish = 83

Beef = 80

Chicken = 79

Casein = 77

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[OptimusPrime1980]

eggs and beef too,, all top profesionals use lots of insulina ,,for insulina and anadrola takes the need for high doses testosterona! lol

but he ate too much  red meat and too much eggs wholeeee eggs,, he ate A LOT ,, trust me on that ALOT while in reality he needed fish ....he prefered the steaks and eggs...family also have genetic desposition i think,, but the eggs and meat + ofcourse abuse and misuse of many drugs ...all that factor into heart surgery in mid 30s

gh15 approved

yeah his dad died of hart disease as well....
i think biggest factor in heart disease = GENETICS!!
i friend of mine got an hart attack.... they gave him 17 shocks with the def. machine... lol!!
anyway he survived... but you know what was the first thing the doc asked him when he was in hospital??
1: do you smoke
2: does hart disease run in your family
steroids were not even mentioned... or asked about ...
smoking is waaaay worse on arteries, and genetics.... some people are just fucked by god! lol!!

[OptimusPrime1980]

Best sources of good fats for assisted guys are normally olive oil and fish oil, where sats are relatively low! Nuts and egg yolks also but in moderation!!Just try eating a couple of jars of peanut butter straight and you will feel the effects of fats trying to be worked round your body. Your heart ponds harder and harder as it trys to shift all that fat round your artires!  The blood will get thicker like treacle and remeber on juice blood gets thicker anyway so by not taking on too much fats in general you prevent it from thickening even more which isn't good! 

lol.... a couple of yars of peanut butter? good luck with that 
so you think that right after eating fat , it will allready be in your blood??? it will be in your stomach and guts... and be slowely synthesized... fat slows down metabolism quite a bit...
nuts and egg yolks are great... no need to panic....

blood thickens on steroids because of more red blood cells.... nothing to do with dietery fats...
fats are good... high fat diets are healthy...
diets high in carbs especially simple carbs are what brought the Western diseases.... Type 2 diabetics..
a high total cholesterol level is no problem! as long as the ratio between hdl and ldl is correct...
please do some research before you go and say stuff... use google as i am to lazy now....
egg
fish oil
olive oil
lean meat
nuts
fish
all healthy.... just go easy on red meats
combine these foods with a little complex carbs around training... and you have a very healthy diet.
but like all diets you will not be able to do it forever as it gets boring eating the same stuff.... lol...

[AlphaMaleDawg]

We agree on everything, I would never use one of the commercial brands myself. I had medical grade whey isolate. When I say protein is protein, I mean that in the big scheme of things, it really doesn't matter one bit. Of course there are differences but you will not see it on your physique. Again provided you're not using something that creates a reaction to who knows what  

winnerrrrrr. Honestly who gives a shit about anything other than the way it will make you look? YOU WILL LOOK EXACTLY THE SAME WHETHER YOU DRINK 24G PROTEIN FROM WHEY OR EAT 24G OF PROTEIN FROM CHICKEN

YES YOU ARE RIGHT!!!! I HAVE SEEN LAB RESULTS!!!

THE ONLY BRANDS I TRUST ARE OPTIMUM NUTRITION AND REFLEX, BUT I DON'T BUY PROTEIN POWDER FOR SOME MONTHS NOW

I have been using ON's protein ever since I started lifting weights at 18. That is as pure as they come

[AlphaMaleDawg]

It is selfexplanatory that real solid food is much better than protein powder. Its just like fast food in a way, two scoops and some water and your ready to go. Its the easy way out and you would be much better off with real food like chicken or tuna instead. Protein powder also makes you hold more water and like GH15 said, it really does kill the midsection. I can honestly say the times Ive ran out of protein powder and had to rely on more tuna instead, Ive looked better than ever. It consumes more energy from you to prepare meals, but it pays off in the end. Protein powder should only be used right after workout (since this is the only time you really need it) and in situations where your not able to prepare real food, like in work situations like mentioned. Bottom line is, protein powder is a supplement and should never ever replace real whole food, period! And if your gonna use protein powder, make sure you have the best quality brand out there like ON`s 100% Whey. It really makes a difference.

all this nonsense and not one single thing to prove your inaccurate statement. Your reasoning is simply "because it's food!"

I gotta disagree here, ok yeah if you eat 20-30 eggs a day im sure that would be no good for you, just as if you ate 20-30 apples a day, but I do not believe that the Cholesterol that is inside the egg has anything to do with your blood levels. There is no evidence to suggest this what so ever, personally I think its destroyed in the gut by the liver.. the thing that affects your cholesterol in my opinion is lifestyle, health, genetics and diet.

it doesn't. My cholesterol was amazing when I was natural and I was eating 4-6 whole eggs a day. My HDL went down after starting gear. Eggs have nothing to do with cholesterol levels in your blood

And you are following gh15 advices, using tren and gh and sometimes dnp...
bro i like you, but you are deep lost.

I haven't used DNP in a year because I am already too lean. And how the fuck am I lost? I must be doing something right if I like the way I look. Should I be walking two blocks to the pizza place and spend $7.50 on three slices before bed every night instead? I am not trying to build any more muscle and if you read any of my posts, I have stated this 1000 times.

[wes]

Biological Value (BV) 0/120

Whey Protein Isolate = 100

Whole Egg = 100

Milk = 91

Egg White = 88

Fish = 83

Beef = 80

Chicken = 79

Casein = 77

PT

If you add a whole egg or two to your eggwhites,the BV also becomes 100.

[flinstones1]

This is Alice - Alice

HAHAH OMG!

haven''t laughed that hard in a while lol, look at the picture for a split second and you will really think it's fat alice

nice

[OptimusPrime1980]

actually that s egg protein POWDER

i know many competitors using eg protein powder because they fear water retention from lactose (myth LOL)

well i get bloated like hell on milk....it's not a myth,  i am lactose intolerant....
like many people...
milk sucks... human are the only mammals that drink milk when they are adults... and milk from another species even..... doesn't make sense does it lol!!
you do not need milk.....

[wes]

HAHAH OMG!

haven''t laughed that hard in a while lol, look at the picture for a split second and you will really think it's fat alice

nice

You mean it`s not

[pillowtalk]

If you add a whole egg or two to your eggwhites,the BV also becomes 100.

Do you thinkwhey is shit Wes??

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[notsureifsrs]

all this nonsense and not one single thing to prove your inaccurate statement. Your reasoning is simply "because it's food!"

it doesn't. My cholesterol was amazing when I was natural and I was eating 4-6 whole eggs a day. My HDL went down after starting gear. Eggs have nothing to do with cholesterol levels in your blood

I haven't used DNP in a year because I am already too lean. And how the fuck am I lost? I must be doing something right if I like the way I look. Should I be walking two blocks to the pizza place and spend $7.50 on three slices before bed every night instead? I am not trying to build any more muscle and if you read any of my posts, I have stated this 1000 times.

No, but you neither need to spend money on casein...