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Well, we can no longer just say "Only the left cares about this!"

That has changed now, 33.

now it is
1) the left
2) the media
3) Obama & white house
4) Some of the other GOP candidates
5) Some NH voters

At some point, it will tip to the MAJORITY of people disagreeing with Mitt's statement. 


Bottom line - it was a dumb thing to say. 



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We need another Andrew Mellon figure -

"liquidate labor, liquidate stocks, liquidate farmers, liquidate real estate… it will purge the rottenness out of the system. High costs of living and high living will come down. People will work harder, live a more moral life. Values will be adjusted, and enterprising people will pick up from less competent people."

If Mitt can adopt this hardline capitalist stance, then expect to see him in the White House and then turning around this economy with the most robust growth yet this century.

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Oh good grief.   ::)  No, you should never fire someone who doesn't perform.  How terrible.  What an awful thing to say.  lol

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Oh good grief.   ::)  No, you should never fire someone who doesn't perform.  How terrible.  What an awful thing to say.  lol

240 supports RP saying people should die without health care insurance but attacks Myth on this. 


got it yet?   

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Ron Paul said today that he supports Romney's work at Bain and that people criticizing him don't understand how markets work.

Congrats 240, not only is this another viewpoint of Paul's that you disagree with but you also don't understand economics.  :)

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Ron Paul said today that he supports Romney's work at Bain and that people criticizing him don't understand how markets work.

Congrats 240, not only is this another viewpoint of Paul's that you disagree with but you also don't understand economics.  :)

Funny how someones gets through an MBA program and does not understand this.   

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Ron Paul Defends Romney, Lashes Out at His Critics


http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/01/abc-exclusive-ron-paul-defends-romney-lashes-out-at-his-critics








In an exclusive interview outside a Manchester polling place, Ron Paul lashed out at fellow Republicans for making unfair and ignorant attacks on Mitt Romney’s business record.

“I think they’re wrong. I think they’re totally misunderstanding the way the market works,” Paul told me. “They are either just demogoging or they don’t have the vaguest idea how the market works.”

Paul also came to Romney’s defense for saying “I like to be able to fire people.”

“I think they’re unfairly attacking him on that issue because he never really literally said that,” Paul said.  “They’ve taken him way out of context. … He wants to fire companies.”

In Paul’s view, Romney is right to say that he created jobs by restructuring companies.

” I think they’re way overboard on saying that he wants to fire people, he doesn’t care, Paul said.  “You save companies, you save jobs when you reorganize companies that are going to go bankrupt. And they don’t understand that.”

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/01/abc-exclusive-ron-paul-defends-romney-lashes-out-at-his-critics
















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........unreal. Good job 240...shill for the douchbag left.
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........unreal. Good job 240...shill for the douchbag left.

240  takes whatever Mika B says at 6:15 am and just repeats it.   

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240: defending the ppl/businesses that dont perform adequately from being fired.

for some reason i am not surprised by this.

I dont think there is anything wrong with saying this at anytime.

If youre not performing adequately right now in this economic time where jobs are hard to come by what is your performance going to be like in better times?

LOL Im guessing you dont have anybody working for you...

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"I prefer keeping unqualified people on my payroll and becoming less and less efficient over time."  Is that better? 

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"I prefer keeping unqualified people on my payroll and becoming less and less efficient over time."  Is that better? 

IMO, something like "Firing people is unfortunate, but a necessary part of business..." would sound MUCH better than "I LIKE firing PEOPLE".

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Perry donor defects to Romney, citing Bain attacks
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Columbia, South Carolina (CNN) – One of Rick Perry's leading financial supporters in South Carolina is defecting to Mitt Romney – and he told CNN Thursday that Perry's sharp criticisms of Romney as a "vulture capitalist" were the main factor in his decision.

Both Perry and Newt Gingrich recently began hammering Romney as a predatory capitalist who looted companies and fired workers when he was running the private equity firm Bain Capital in the 1980s and 1990s.

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Barry Wynn, the former chairman of the South Carolina Republican Party and a financial adviser in Spartanburg, said the escalating rhetoric about Romney's business background is "destructive."

"It's just a dance I didn't want to be a part of," Wynn said in an interview, explaining his decision to leave Perry's campaign.

Wynn, along with a handful of other previously neutral South Carolina moneymen, will publicly endorse Romney on Thursday.

"This latest attack, it's so foreign to me, I couldn't see myself being a part of that," he explained. "I don't think you can be on both sides of free market capitalism. A big part of me being a Republican for the last 40 years is that I think it's the best hope to protect free market capitalism, the growth engine of our economy."

Wynn was part of a group of Republican bundlers who traveled to Texas last August to meet with Perry before he launched his presidential bid.

But he said the Texas governor's latest message is contrary to "everything that Republicans have been struggling for."

"It's hard enough to make that case for capitalism, and to have people in our own party attacking the case, it's not good for the party or good for the country," he said. "It kind of falls into this politics of envy that the Obama campaign is going to be all about between now and November."

Romney met with Wynn on Thursday morning after his event in Greer.

Wynn said he has always admired the former Massachusetts governor's business background.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/01/12/perry-donor-defects-to-romney-citing-bain-attacks/

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Some Republicans Rally Around Romney After Hits on Bain
Thursday, 12 Jan 2012

GREER, S.C. — An array of Republicans and conservatives, including some of Mitt Romney's sharpest critics, rushed to the GOP presidential front-runner's defense Thursday to counter efforts to paint the former venture capitalist as a job-killer.

Under fire, Romney rivals Newt Gingrich and Rick Perry seemed to temper direct attacks on Romney's tenure at the helm of Bain Capital.
 
Although Gingrich said "I'm not going to back down" during a campaign stop in Columbia on Thursday, the former House speaker made no mention of Romney, nor did he repeat his criticism of Romney's record as a venture capitalist.

Gingrich also said his calls to audit the 2008 federal banking bailout had "rattled a number of so-called conservatives."

"When you have crony capitalism and politicians taking care of their friends, that's not free enterprise, that's back-door socialism," said Gingrich, who is airing a TV ad describing Romney's economic plans as timid.

The U.S. Chamber of Commerce weighed in on Thursday.

"We're disappointed" with the line of criticism, said Chamber head Thomas Donohue. The business group doesn't endorse in presidential campaigns, but Donohue said: "We think Romney has had a pretty good track record. Perfect? Hell no, but damn good."

Former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee, who ran against Romney four years ago, wrote in an online letter: "It's surprising to see so many Republicans embrace that left-wing argument against capitalism."

And another 2008 foe, former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani, told Fox News: "I'm shocked at what they are doing. I'm going to say it's ignorant. Dumb. It's building something we should be fighting — ignorance of the American economic system."

Romney's new defenders — many of whom have long histories of disagreeing with the former Massachusetts governor — argued that the attacks on his business record undermined the GOP's identity and weakened the party's chief argument against Democratic President Barack Obama, that federal intrusion has stymied the economy's recovery.

Although the latest comments were more a rejection of attacks on Romney's record at Bain than an endorsement of Romney as a candidate, they signaled a warming toward Romney by a cross-section of the GOP as his party struggles to settle on a more conservative alternative.

A prominent fundraiser in South Carolina, Barry Wynn, shifted his support from Texas Gov. Perry to Romney in light of those attacks, which he said had crossed the line in a political party that values free-market capitalism.

"I've been fighting for this cause most of my life," Wynn said. "It's like fingernails on the chalkboard. It just kind of irritated you to hear those kind of attacks."

The controversy over Romney's Bain tenure began last weekend when Gingrich, seeking a rebound for his candidacy if not revenge for attack ads that crippled his campaign in Iowa, sought to undercut the central rationale of his chief rival's candidacy — that Romney's business background made him the strongest Republican to take on Obama.

Perry, whose campaign also is in trouble, joined in.

Both are accusing Romney of being a fat-cat venture capitalist during his days running Bain, laying off workers as he restructured companies and filled his own pockets.

But the criticism of both Gingrich and Perry has been swift, with opponents Rick Santorum and Ron Paul refusing to attack Romney's time at Bain, and others fearful about bloodying the Republican most likely to become the party's nominee.

"If you believe what the Obama administration is doing is a direct assault on the private sector and as Republicans we believe that's the wrong approach, you can't turn around and say what is going on in the private sector is wrong," said Jim Dyke, a GOP strategist in South Carolina who is uncommitted to a candidate in the Jan. 21 primary.

Earlier in the week, conservative radio commentator Rush Limbaugh, often a Romney critic, called Gingrich's comments "out of bounds for those who value the free market." Club for Growth President Chris Chocola labeled the attacks "disgusting." And South Carolina Sen. Jim DeMint, who endorsed Romney in 2008 but is unaligned this year, suggested that Romney critics don't understand "the principles of our party."

"To have a few Republicans in this race beginning to talk about how bad it is to fire people . . . it really gives the Democrats a lot of fodder," DeMint, arguably South Carolina's most popular Republican, told conservative radio host Laura Ingraham.

Although presidential contender Jon Huntsman had criticized Romney for a comment he made about firing people, Huntsman said on Wednesday: "If you have creative destruction in capitalism, which has always been part of capitalism, it becomes a little disingenuous to take on Bain Capital."

An outside group supporting Gingrich — called Winning Our Future — pressed ahead with plans to launch an advertising attack on Romney's time at Bain, complete with a bruising ad and longer-form video in South Carolina assailing Romney as a vicious corporate raider.
Perry, who had likened companies like Bain to vultures, avoided attacking Romney for his role at Bain during two stops in South Carolina on Thursday.

Yet, he jabbed at the issue indirectly during an interview with Fox News.

"The idea that you've got private equity companies that come in and take companies apart so they can make profits and have people lose their jobs, that's not what the Republican Party's about," Perry said.

Romney, for his part, has tried in recent days to explain the private equity business. He told reporters in Greer as the day began that in the private sector, some businesses grow and thrive while others have to be cut back in order to survive and become stronger.

"Sometimes you're successful at that and sometimes you're not," Romney said.

Meanwhile, his team was working behind the scenes to blunt the force of the criticism, distributing talking points to surrogates warning against attacking the free-market economy.

On Wednesday night, South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley chided Gingrich and Perry indirectly in introducing Romney, whom she has endorsed, during a campaign event in Columbia.

"We have a real problem when we have Republicans talking like dang Democrats against the free market," Haley said. "We believe in free markets."


http://www.newsmax.com/InsideCover/Romney-Republicans-Gingrich-Bain/2012/01/12/id/424027

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repubs realize romney will probably win it.  they want to be 'in his camp' now.

this perry/newt attack on bain is their chance.