Urinating on dead Taliban fighters

[240 is Back]

Barry's not on the run as you put it...we've thrown everything at the Taliban and they just keep coming no matter how many we kill....Obama is smart to get us the hell out of there

I'm guessing every GOP candidate except ron paul disagrees with you

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

I should have posted this...he said it much better.


Rep. Allen West (R-Fla.), a former Army lieutenant colonel, sends THE WEEKLY STANDARD an email commenting on the Marines' video, and has given us permission to publish it.




“I have sat back and assessed the incident with the video of our Marines urinating on Taliban corpses. I do not recall any self-righteous indignation when our Delta snipers Shugart and Gordon had their bodies dragged through Mogadishu. Neither do I recall media outrage and condemnation of our Blackwater security contractors being killed, their bodies burned, and hung from a bridge in Fallujah.
 
“All these over-emotional pundits and armchair quarterbacks need to chill. Does anyone remember the two Soldiers from the 101st Airborne Division who were beheaded and gutted in Iraq?
 
“The Marines were wrong. Give them a maximum punishment under field grade level Article 15 (non-judicial punishment), place a General Officer level letter of reprimand in their personnel file, and have them in full dress uniform stand before their Battalion, each personally apologize to God, Country, and Corps videotaped and conclude by singing the full US Marine Corps Hymn without a teleprompter.
 
“As for everyone else, unless you have been shot at by the Taliban, shut your mouth, war is hell.”

And this coming from someone who did this....


While serving in Taji, Iraq, West received information from an intelligence specialist about a reported plot to ambush him and his men.[6] The alleged plot reportedly involved Yahya Jhodri Hamoodi, a civilian Iraqi police officer.[6] West, who was not responsible for conducting interrogations in Iraq and had never conducted nor witnessed one, had his men detain Hamoodi.[6] In the process of detaining Mr. Hamoodi, soldiers testified that Hamoodi appeared to reach for his weapon and needed to be subdued.[6] Hamoodi was beaten by four soldiers from the 220th Field Artillery Battalion on the head and body.[10] West then fired his pistol near Hamoodi's head,[6] after which Hamoodi provided West with names and information, which Hamoodi later described as "meaningless information induced by fear and pain."[6] At least one of these suspects was arrested as a result, but no plans for attacks or weapons were found.[6] West said "At the time I had to base my decision on the intelligence I received. It's possible that I was wrong about Mr. Hamoodi."[6]

West was charged with violating articles 128 (assault) and 134 (general article) of the Uniform Code of Military Justice. During a hearing held as part of an Article 32 investigation in November 2003, West stated, "I know the method I used was not right, but I wanted to take care of my soldiers."[10] The charges were ultimately referred to an Article 15 proceeding rather than court-martial, at which West was fined $5,000.[6] LTC West accepted the judgment and retired with full benefits in the summer of 2004. Asked if he would act differently under similar circumstances again, West testified, "If it's about the lives of my soldiers at stake, I'd go through hell with a gasoline can."[11] After Lieutenant Colonel West was relieved of his command, an interpreter employed by a private contractor said that without his presence the region he previously oversaw "became more dangerous and chaotic".[6]

[Dos Equis]

And this coming from someone who did this....


While serving in Taji, Iraq, West received information from an intelligence specialist about a reported plot to ambush him and his men.[6] The alleged plot reportedly involved Yahya Jhodri Hamoodi, a civilian Iraqi police officer.[6] West, who was not responsible for conducting interrogations in Iraq and had never conducted nor witnessed one, had his men detain Hamoodi.[6] In the process of detaining Mr. Hamoodi, soldiers testified that Hamoodi appeared to reach for his weapon and needed to be subdued.[6] Hamoodi was beaten by four soldiers from the 220th Field Artillery Battalion on the head and body.[10] West then fired his pistol near Hamoodi's head,[6] after which Hamoodi provided West with names and information, which Hamoodi later described as "meaningless information induced by fear and pain."[6] At least one of these suspects was arrested as a result, but no plans for attacks or weapons were found.[6] West said "At the time I had to base my decision on the intelligence I received. It's possible that I was wrong about Mr. Hamoodi."[6]

West was charged with violating articles 128 (assault) and 134 (general article) of the Uniform Code of Military Justice. During a hearing held as part of an Article 32 investigation in November 2003, West stated, "I know the method I used was not right, but I wanted to take care of my soldiers."[10] The charges were ultimately referred to an Article 15 proceeding rather than court-martial, at which West was fined $5,000.[6] LTC West accepted the judgment and retired with full benefits in the summer of 2004. Asked if he would act differently under similar circumstances again, West testified, "If it's about the lives of my soldiers at stake, I'd go through hell with a gasoline can."[11] After Lieutenant Colonel West was relieved of his command, an interpreter employed by a private contractor said that without his presence the region he previously oversaw "became more dangerous and chaotic".[6]

Good.  I completely agree with him. 

[headhuntersix]

And this coming from someone who did this....


While serving in Taji, Iraq, West received information from an intelligence specialist about a reported plot to ambush him and his men.[6] The alleged plot reportedly involved Yahya Jhodri Hamoodi, a civilian Iraqi police officer.[6] West, who was not responsible for conducting interrogations in Iraq and had never conducted nor witnessed one, had his men detain Hamoodi.[6] In the process of detaining Mr. Hamoodi, soldiers testified that Hamoodi appeared to reach for his weapon and needed to be subdued.[6] Hamoodi was beaten by four soldiers from the 220th Field Artillery Battalion on the head and body.[10] West then fired his pistol near Hamoodi's head,[6] after which Hamoodi provided West with names and information, which Hamoodi later described as "meaningless information induced by fear and pain."[6] At least one of these suspects was arrested as a result, but no plans for attacks or weapons were found.[6] West said "At the time I had to base my decision on the intelligence I received. It's possible that I was wrong about Mr. Hamoodi."[6]

West was charged with violating articles 128 (assault) and 134 (general article) of the Uniform Code of Military Justice. During a hearing held as part of an Article 32 investigation in November 2003, West stated, "I know the method I used was not right, but I wanted to take care of my soldiers."[10] The charges were ultimately referred to an Article 15 proceeding rather than court-martial, at which West was fined $5,000.[6] LTC West accepted the judgment and retired with full benefits in the summer of 2004. Asked if he would act differently under similar circumstances again, West testified, "If it's about the lives of my soldiers at stake, I'd go through hell with a gasoline can."[11] After Lieutenant Colonel West was relieved of his command, an interpreter employed by a private contractor said that without his presence the region he previously oversaw "became more dangerous and chaotic".[6]

Gimme a break..if West was a black Dem it would be a different story.....u lib douchbags...how many combat deployments do u have Vince....

[andreisdaman]

Gimme a break..if West was a black Dem it would be a different story.....u lib douchbags...how many combat deployments do u have Vince....

Another guy obsessed with black people

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

Gimme a break..if West was a black Dem it would be a different story.....u lib douchbags...how many combat deployments do u have Vince....

Wrong....I'm against any military personnel who decides to completely ignore the UCMC and since West was an officer, he definitely knows better.  Using the excuse that "his men were in danger" is a load of crap because in combat, you are always in danger  24/7. 

He took an Iraqi police officer who was on our side, had the shit beat out of him by 4 men, and clearly threated to kill him.  Its no wonder that region had destabilized.  Even he admitted that he was clearly wrong. 

Behavior like that should never be tolerated...otherwise, we are no better than the terrorist.   

[headhuntersix]

Im not familure with the UCMC...maybe UCMJ. West did what he needed to. The only reason he was allowed to retire was because the info he got from this douchbag actually allowed his guys to avoid an ambush. The rest of ur post is PC bullshit from a guy who's never been there.

[OzmO]

He should have pissed on him too.

War is hell.

Get over it, or don't get involved.  

[sync pulse]

Its bad.....doesn't help etc...undisciplined and unneccesary. Ok that said, whatever! They had just killed these guys..whats worse?  

The fact that what they did hampers the United States military is what's worse...Usually at this point career military personnel recite...
 "We are not instruments of public relations...we are not instruments of society..."

While it is true this is not written anywhere...De Facto...They are....

[Dos Equis]

He should have pissed on him too.

War is hell.

Get over it, or don't get involved.  

Truth.

[Soul Crusher]

Wrong....I'm against any military personnel who decides to completely ignore the UCMC and since West was an officer, he definitely knows better.  Using the excuse that "his men were in danger" is a load of crap because in combat, you are always in danger  24/7. 

He took an Iraqi police officer who was on our side, had the shit beat out of him by 4 men, and clearly threated to kill him.  Its no wonder that region had destabilized.  Even he admitted that he was clearly wrong. 

Behavior like that should never be tolerated...otherwise, we are no better than the terrorist.   

Oh please.   Save your bullshit for your fellow morons on the left. 

[headhuntersix]

The fact that what they did hampers the United States military is what's worse...Usually at this point career military personnel recite...
 "We are not instruments of public relations...we are not instruments of society..."

While it is true this is not written anywhere...De Facto...They are....

No shit.......the press is blowing this out of proportion. It will all be forgotten shortly.

[sync pulse]

No shit.......the press is blowing this out of proportion. It will all be forgotten shortly.

Excuse me...It wasn't any member of the press that did this...It was that patrol whose members are influenced by bizarre video games that did this...

[sync pulse]

The fact that what they did hampers the United States military is what's worse...Usually at this point career military personnel recite...
 "We are not instruments of public relations...we are not instruments of society..."

While it is true this is not written anywhere...De Facto...They are....

Sigh...upon rereading I realized my ellipsis may have confused some onlookers.

To clarify...While it is true that it isn't written anywhere that the United States Military are instruments of public relations or tools of social acceptance...De Facto...They indeed are instruments of public relations, and instruments of of social acceptance...