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Ronnie > Dorian


« Reply #625 on: January 28, 2012, 09:58:00 AM »

ND on damage control Grin
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« Reply #626 on: January 28, 2012, 09:59:54 AM »

Awwww don't like using the worked one anymore when people who don't even care pointed it out? lol

thanks for playing is right , playing the worked photo game

who said I don't like using it? Huh I love that pic b/c it sums up why Ronnie is better

I was just showing you I have more pics of Ronnie hitting a BDB
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« Reply #627 on: January 28, 2012, 10:01:25 AM »

destroy him Neo...He's a bumbling mess and it's hilarious.
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« Reply #628 on: January 28, 2012, 10:03:30 AM »

who said I don't like using it? Huh I love that pic b/c it sums up why Ronnie is better

I was just showing you I have more pics of Ronnie hitting a BDB

Yeah and NONE look like the sharpened one , it's no wonder why you made this quote lol

I'm sorry but Peter McGough is an idiot if he thinks 01 ASC Ronnie never surpassed Dorian's conditioning

Dorian would make him look petite , unbalanced and incomplete

269lbs vs 247lbs

Dorian bigger , harder , drier , better balanced and more complete.  Wink



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« Reply #629 on: January 28, 2012, 10:14:23 AM »

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Dorian would make him look petite , unbalanced and incomplete

269lbs vs 247lbs


lol

when dorian stepped onstage weighing anything near 269 pounds he looked like THIS:

the higher his weight the worse he often looked, much like Ronnie

so think again. your argument makes no sense.


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« Reply #630 on: January 28, 2012, 10:15:07 AM »

Yeah and NONE look like the sharpened one , it's no wonder why you made this quote lol

I'm sorry but Peter McGough is an idiot if he thinks 01 ASC Ronnie never surpassed Dorian's conditioning

ironic coming from the guy who disagreed with McGough's assessment that 97 Ronnie had a better back than Dorian that year, or that 01 ASC Ronnie has the best physique he ever saw, or that Ronnie has the best back in history
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« Reply #631 on: January 28, 2012, 10:16:33 AM »

lol

when dorian stepped onstage weighing anything near 269 pounds he looked like THIS:

the higher his weight the worse he often looked, much like Ronnie

so think again. your argument makes no sense.

LMFAO When Dorian stepped onstage weighing anything near 269lbs he kicks Ronnie's ass LMFAO epic fail genius



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« Reply #632 on: January 28, 2012, 10:17:29 AM »

ironic coming from the guy who disagreed with McGough's assessment that 97 Ronnie had a better back than Dorian that year, or that 01 ASC Ronnie has the best physique he ever saw, or that Ronnie has the best back in history

I'm sorry but Peter McGough is an idiot if he thinks 01 ASC Ronnie never surpassed Dorian's conditioning

Awww now he's right  Cheesy
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« Reply #633 on: January 28, 2012, 10:18:30 AM »

No Neo according to YOU Peter McGough is an ' idiot ' lol

I'm sorry but Peter McGough is an idiot if he thinks 01 ASC Ronnie never surpassed Dorian's conditioning

I love running your nose in your own shit kid.  Wink
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« Reply #634 on: January 28, 2012, 10:39:04 AM »

I'm sorry but Peter McGough is an idiot if he thinks 01 ASC Ronnie never surpassed Dorian's conditioning

Awww now he's right

lol, notice that you're the only one quoting Peter McGough. I've been quoting Flex magazine which represents the collective opinion of their journalists, editors, photographers, and staff
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« Reply #635 on: January 28, 2012, 10:46:12 AM »

dont compare negros to whites

if close contest,

judges will give it to the "white hope" anyway

dorian = best white mr O (because arnold didn t have humatrope)

ronnie = best negro mr O (because flex was a lazy fucker)

i like both , very entertaining and ABSOLUTELY unbeatable in their 4-5 best showings

arnold, haney, dorian, ronnie are all top of the top

all others can t touch them


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« Reply #636 on: January 28, 2012, 10:46:15 AM »

lol, notice that you're the only one quoting Peter McGough. I've been quoting Flex magazine which represents the collective opinion of their journalists, editors, photographers, and staff

And? according to you he's an ' idiot ' and he was the editor in chief of Flex magazine.  Wink

You hinged everything you had on popular opinion and still came up short , you supplemented that with  enhanced pictures , out of context quotes , and contradictory statements. In the end you're in another Dorian Yates thread trying to say he was better because he was popular

You tried to use the IFBB criteria , which you didn't even know and when I tore you apart for being ignorant , now this is what you have trolling in a Yates thread .

You = fail on all levels.

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« Reply #637 on: January 28, 2012, 10:51:43 AM »

ND, since you love to quote Peter McGough and you think he's an expert on bodybuilding, do you agree with his assertion that 97 Ronnie had a better back than Dorian that year or that Ronnie has the best back ever? Yes or no?
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« Reply #638 on: January 28, 2012, 10:57:54 AM »

ND, since you love to quote Peter McGough and you think he's an expert on bodybuilding, do you agree with his assertion that 97 Ronnie had a better back than Dorian that year or that Ronnie has the best back ever?

I wouldn't say he's an ' idiot '  Grin

And he said Ronnie had a better back double biceps pose in 97 and Dorian was in rough shape.

Unlike you who claimed ' if you use one quote from someone you are now bound to all of them '

I don't agree with everything McGough says , Ronnie beat a career worse Dorian in a pose according to him , I don't have a problem with that. Dorian at his best now that's another story.



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« Reply #639 on: January 28, 2012, 10:58:45 AM »

dont compare negros to whites

if close contest,

judges will give it to the "white hope" anyway
dorian = best white mr O (because arnold didn t have humatrope)

ronnie = best negro mr O (because flex was a lazy fucker)

i like both , very entertaining and ABSOLUTELY unbeatable in their 4-5 best showings

arnold, haney, dorian, ronnie are all top of the top

all others can t touch them



Great point, forgot about that.
And you know it would be close between the two.
Lol.
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« Reply #640 on: January 28, 2012, 11:02:22 AM »

I wouldn't say he's an ' idiot '

And he said Ronnie had a better back double biceps pose in 97 and Dorian was in rough shape.

Unlike you who claimed ' if you use one quote from someone you are now bound to all of them '

I don't agree with everything McGough says , Ronnie beat a career worse Dorian in a pose according to him , I don't have a problem with that. Dorian at his best now that's another story.

epic dodging the question. Do you agree? Yes or no?
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« Reply #641 on: January 28, 2012, 11:04:47 AM »

It's like I said countless and countless times , over-and-over again

Dorian would beat Ronnie because................. ............ he simply meets more of ALL of the judging criteria better than Ronnie does

using a ' person in the know ' Arnold Schwarzenegger from his encyclopedia of bodybuilding

on the rear lat spread if nothing happened when they flexed their calves the whole effect would be ruined  Grin this applies to the back double biceps as well or any pose , sorry Ronnie

Dorian simply wins to many mandatories


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« Reply #642 on: January 28, 2012, 11:07:14 AM »

epic dodging the question. Do you agree? Yes or no?

I didn't dodge the question , I said I had no problem with that. The judges decided Ronnie didn't touch Dorian in this pose and in the end they are the only ones who matter.

Not popular opinion.
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« Reply #643 on: January 28, 2012, 11:10:32 AM »

I didn't dodge the question , I said I had no problem with that. The judges decided Ronnie didn't touch Dorian in this pose and in the end they are the only ones who matter.

Not popular opinion

Yes or no?

saying "I don't have a problem with that" is a roundabout way of saying you disagree without incriminating yourself

i.e. you don't think Peter McGough is a credible source but you continue to post quotes from him b/c that's all you got
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« Reply #644 on: January 28, 2012, 11:19:45 AM »

Yes or no?

saying "I don't have a problem with that" is a roundabout way of saying you disagree without incriminating yourself

i.e. you don't think Peter McGough is a credible source but you continue to post quotes from him b/c that's all you got

Oh please , you're the guy who says he's an ' idiot ' and then tries to use his words. give me a break.

Again , unlike your dumb logic I don't automatically become bound to everything he says. He's entitled to his opinion like all of your ' people in the know ' but it doesn't make it fact. In the end the judges hold all the cards.

You don't think he's a credible source , oh wait you do , but wait you called him an ' idiot '  Roll Eyes but wait he says this part of Ronnie is better , so he's not an ' idiot ' anymore.

Kid you bring a host or really dumb logic and reasoning with your posts , along with worked pictures and worked quotes. You realized you couldn't compete using the criteria and switched to popular opinion

Where are you Neo? in another Yates thread trying to prove to me that Ronnie is better. Again you failed on all levels .

Keep trying I'll keep  exposing you.
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« Reply #645 on: January 28, 2012, 11:23:34 AM »

Ronnie where your calves at? according to a ' person in the know ' Arnold , the whole pose if ruined.


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« Reply #646 on: January 28, 2012, 11:27:57 AM »

but to be honest and neutral i feel that some of these bbs who selected ronnie as the best did so because they like him personally more than dorian..

Who knows, but I'd rather take their word for it than argue on the internet all day long. These opinions are coming from current and former bodybuilders, judges, bodybuilding experts, writers and photographers.

Bodybuilders, judges, bodybuilding experts, writers, photographers opinions have more weight than bodybuilding fans on message boards.

Just look who the quotes are coming from in Ronnie's favour LOL:

Joe Weider - Co-Founder of the IFBB
Ben Weider - Co-Founder of the IFBB
Dorian Yates Pro Bodybuilder
Flex Wheeler Pro Bodybuilder
Nasser El Sonbaty Pro Bodybuilder
Francis Benfatto Pro Bodybuilder
Paul Dillet Pro Bodybuilder
Jay Cutler Pro Bodybuilder
Dexter Jackson Pro Bodybuilder
Shawn Ray Pro Bodybuilder
Victor Martinez Pro Bodybuilder
Milos Sarcev Pro Bodybuilder
John Hansen: - 2 Time Natural Mr.Universe, Natural Mr. Olympia Winner
Bob Cicherillo: Pro Bodybuilder
Gunter Schlierkamp Pro Bodybuilder
Melvin Anthony Pro Bodybuilder
Mike Mattarazo Pro Bodybuilder
Jean Pierre Fux Pro Bodybuilder
Dave Palumbo - Bodybuilder
Craig Titus Pro Bodybuilder
Eryk Bui Pro Bodybuilder
Quincy Taylor Pro Bodybuilder
Branch Warren - Pro Bodybuilder
Stan McCrary - Pro Bodybuilder
Craig Richardson - Pro Bodybuilder
Chris Cormier - Pro Bodybuilder
Aaron Baker - Pro Bodybuilder
Don Long - Pro Bodybuilder
King Kamali - Pro Bodybuilder
Charles Glass - Pro Bodybuilder/Pro Trainer
Ron Harris - Bodybuilder/Writer
Joe McNeal - Pro Trainer

Peter McGough - Flex Magazine Writer - One of the world's most renowned experts in the sport of bodybuilding.
Hollis Liebman - Former Fitness Editor and IFBB Official
Dan Soloman   - Pro Bodybuilding Weekly Host
Ron Harris Bodybuilder/Writer
Shawn Perine - Flex Magazine Senior Writer
Steve Blechman - MD publisher/Owner
Ryan Mackie - Bodybuilding.com Writer
Allan Donnelly Flex Magazine Writer
George De Pirro - Flex Magazine Senior Editor
David Robson Bodybuilder, Martial Artist, Accredited Personal Trainer and Writer
Myron Mielke Bodybuilder/Writer
Raymond Cassar Muscle Time Writer/Photographer
Lonnie Taper - Bodybuilding Expert/Iron Man Magazine writer
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« Reply #647 on: January 28, 2012, 11:31:29 AM »

Who knows, but I'd rather take their word for it than argue on the internet all day long. These opinions are coming from current and former bodybuilders, judges, bodybuilding experts, writers and photographers.

Bodybuilders, judges, bodybuilding experts, writers, photographers opinions have more weight than bodybuilding fans on message boards.

Just look who the quotes are coming from in Ronnie's favour LOL:

Joe Weider - Co-Founder of the IFBB
Ben Weider - Co-Founder of the IFBB
Dorian Yates Pro Bodybuilder
Flex Wheeler Pro Bodybuilder
Paul Dillet Pro Bodybuilder
Jay Cutler Pro Bodybuilder
Dexter Jackson Pro Bodybuilder
Shawn Ray Pro Bodybuilder
Victor Martinez Pro Bodybuilder
Milos Sarcev Pro Bodybuilder
John Hansen: - 2 Time Natural Mr.Universe, Natural Mr. Olympia Winner
Bob Cicherillo: Pro Bodybuilder
Gunter Schlierkamp Pro Bodybuilder
Melvin Anthony Pro Bodybuilder
Mike Mattarazo Pro Bodybuilder
Jean Pierre Fux Pro Bodybuilder
Dave Palumbo - Bodybuilder
Craig Titus Pro Bodybuilder
Eryk Bui Pro Bodybuilder
Quincy Taylor Pro Bodybuilder
Branch Warren - Pro Bodybuilder
Stan McCrary - Pro Bodybuilder
Craig Richardson - Pro Bodybuilder
Chris Cormier - Pro Bodybuilder
Aaron Baker - Pro Bodybuilder
Don Long - Pro Bodybuilder
King Kamali - Pro Bodybuilder
Charles Glass - Pro Bodybuilder/Pro Trainer
Ron Harris - Bodybuilder/Writer
Joe McNeal - Pro Trainer

Peter McGough - Flex Magazine Writer - One of the world's most renowned experts in the sport of bodybuilding.
Hollis Liebman - Former Fitness Editor and IFBB Official
Dan Soloman   - Pro Bodybuilding Weekly Host
Ron Harris Bodybuilder/Writer
Shawn Perine - Flex Magazine Senior Writer
Steve Blechman - MD publisher/Owner
Ryan Mackie - Bodybuilding.com Writer
Allan Donnelly Flex Magazine Writer
George De Pirro - Flex Magazine Senior Editor
David Robson Bodybuilder, Martial Artist, Accredited Personal Trainer and Writer
Myron Mielke Bodybuilder/Writer
Raymond Cassar Muscle Time Writer/Photographer
Lonnie Taper - Bodybuilding Expert/Iron Man Magazine writer


Where are the judges?  Huh
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« Reply #648 on: January 28, 2012, 11:34:03 AM »

sorry kiddo but you're wrong. Popular opinion would be an online poll among people who have never seen them in person

the consensus among IFBB pros who know the criteria better and have seen both men at their primes is that Ronnie > Dorian


This reply right here ^^^^^^^^^^^  ends the thread.

EXPERT OPINIONS (in favor of Ronnie) > FANS OPINIONS (in favor of Dorian)

NO DEBATE NEEDED!!!
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« Reply #649 on: January 28, 2012, 11:36:31 AM »

Ronnie where your calves at? according to a ' person in the know ' Arnold , the whole pose if ruined.

Coleman's rear lat spread was hugely over-rated. Dorian Yates' rear lat speard = best of all time.
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