Oh God and Jesus , YOU GUYS are just too funny!

[wes mantooth]

In my opinion you're fucking crazy and no about of baseball bats to your head would ever help. You might as well tattoo on your forehead that 'this mind is close for business'. But you know what, I do have faith in people. Perhaps one day something would tweak in your head in you'd come to realize that you had little choice in how things turned out for you. You're a christian PURELY because of location of birth and a sufficient amount of indoctrination and perhaps an IQ score in the slight sub 100 regions .. and an unwillingness to question anything about religion. People that just accept without question are little robots you can program to believe anything. If their god had a chariot made of condoms and bathed in spunk every night, they'd believe it as long as it was written in the bible. Christianity is a young religion with its roots solidly based in Paganism. Christianity is an update for the modern world and will be updated again for the future morons, far into the future.

I always laugh when I think about it. Two naked people around a magic tree with magic fruit and a talking snake. I wonder if Eve fucked Cain or Able?

qft...spot on

[Growth NOOB]

its not tragic..she went to heaven

Isn't heaven the ultimate goal of religious imbeciles?  Why not just kill yourself now?  Why go through this waiting period?

::waits for made up reasons from "X" holy book (in this case, the bible) as to why it's against god's plan to kill yourself::

[Growth NOOB]

How can people claim to have intellectual integrity and believe in a god?


The two are mutually exclusive.

[tbombz]

How can people claim to have intellectual integrity and believe in a god?


The two are mutually exclusive.

  where did everything come from? what causes everything to happen ? 

[dr.chimps]

  where did everything come from? what causes everything to happen ? 

Hey, bro. Want to post up your grades? Let us know how you're doing?

[Growth NOOB]

  where did everything come from? what causes everything to happen ?  

The Big Bang was the cause of the universe as we know it today.  This is based on testable, falsifiable evidence.  

Saying "god did it" is not only useless, it is utterly meaningless until it is shown a god exists.


Science doesn't claim to know everything like most religions claim to know.  However, science is constantly working on figuring these mysteries out while the opposite is true for religion.

[haider]

  where did everything come from? what causes everything to happen ? 

Ridiculous, im no atheist but i dont buy into logical explanations of god.

You cant explain away where god came from.  Science is moving in a direction probably where such questions can be addressed using quantum mechanics. The linear causation model with infinite regression pointing to god is ridiculous.

[20inch calves]

Isn't heaven the ultimate goal of religious imbeciles?  Why not just kill yourself now?  Why go through this waiting period?

::waits for made up reasons from "X" holy book (in this case, the bible) as to why it's against god's plan to kill yourself::

everyone wants to live. you want to see your kids grow up. spend time with your family ect its just nice knowing that there is a better place after this as well

[hematocritter]

I think it is strange when people (usually religious folks) believe 'the unknown' with such extreme certainty. I'm not saying that they are wrong, but I personally can't buy it without having very firm evidence. Faith is an odd concept to me.

I don't feel that I have a complex enough brain to try to understand the mysteries of the universe. I also don't think the majority of the people in this world have any better capacity to understand it, except for a few individuals that seem very highly connected to something more powerful than our individual souls.
I'm open minded to many religious concepts, but don't have absolute faith in anything because I think it is silly for the average person to pretend to know how the universe works, how it came to be, and what happens to our souls when we pass.

There are some exceptional individuals that are clearly higher functioning than the rest of the world.
One example is Albert Einstein.
If he is suggesting the possibility of a God that is 'that which exists', I'm very open to that being true. I will believe this highly functional person's opinion over some random book of religious texts that some random person wrote in ancient times.

Albert Einstein (1879-1955)
Einstein is probably the best known and most highly revered scientist of the twentieth century, and is associated with major revolutions in our thinking about time, gravity, and the conversion of matter to energy (E=mc2). Although never coming to belief in a personal God, he recognized the impossibility of a non-created universe. The Encyclopedia Britannica says of him: "Firmly denying atheism, Einstein expressed a belief in "Spinoza's God who reveals himself in the harmony of what exists." This actually motivated his interest in science, as he once remarked to a young physicist: "I want to know how God created this world, I am not interested in this or that phenomenon, in the spectrum of this or that element. I want to know His thoughts, the rest are details." Einstein's famous epithet on the "uncertainty principle" was "God does not play dice" - and to him this was a real statement about a God in whom he believed. A famous saying of his was "Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind."

[King Shizzo]

The dumbest are usually the most devout.

[Red Hook]

.......I like to be treated like women; not men

fixed!!!

[wes mantooth]

its just nice knowing that there is a better place after this as well

and that is the ultimate farse of religion in it of itself.

"be good and youll be rewarded"......that is the dominant role in religion, it creates a moral base for humans. obviously simplified, but ideally the teachings of most religions. Now, take a five year old and tell them..."clean your room and youll get 3 cookies". ultimately, the room will probably get cleaned. the next day say, "clean your room and youll get NO cookies"....theyll still be a mess in that room.

my point is, humans have a NEED for purpose, and reward. religion was CREATED to make them feel all warm and tingly knowing that a "paradise" awaits. in reality, we are just skin and bone....just like a dog or a pig......we live, we die...thats it. we dont have "souls" and little spirits that float up to the heavens and run around with jim morrison, elvis, and your great grandpappy.

live right, be healthy, and die....the end is inevitable

[wes]

and that is the ultimate farse of religion in it of itself.

"be good and youll be rewarded"......that is the dominant role in religion, it creates a moral base for humans. obviously simplified, but ideally the teachings of most religions. Now, take a five year old and tell them..."clean your room and youll get 3 cookies". ultimately, the room will probably get cleaned. the next day say, "clean your room and youll get NO cookies"....theyll still be a mess in that room.

my point is, humans have a NEED for purpose, and reward. religion was CREATED to make them feel all warm and tingly knowing that a "paradise" awaits. in reality, we are just skin and bone....just like a dog or a pig......we live, we die...thats it. we dont have "souls" and little spirits that float up to the heavens and run around with jim morrison, elvis, and your great grandpappy.

live right, be healthy, and die....the end is inevitable

We don`t ?   

Good post and good analogy.

[wes mantooth]

the soul is an ideal of an inner existence.....

we have a mind....and we have emotion. we do not have souls.

[wes]

I was only kidding bud. 

[wes mantooth]

i know wes...i picked up on it when you highlighted it. but it was more of a reference post....theyll be plenty more god hearty getbiggers to come and try to argue more invisible things....

[wes]

Yes,I`m sure they will. 

[Swede!]

.....land of peace   

[The_Leafy_Bug]

if god does exist, if this earth really is a testing/development ground for new souls, then it would make sense that god would "kill" (bring into his kingdom) a person whenever they are fully mature and ready to be brought in. a young girl tweting such a thing may have been because she ad finally reached a crtain maturity, empathy, and honesty thatshe was rady for god to take her.

you really dont think things through much ta.

Hahahah i guess your ass will be stuck here for eternity rotting of HIV then. They will have to surgically give you a latex colon insert for you to carry on your activities. Common, post a stink bear underwear greasy fat pic hahahaha. Let me see you pleeeease! I need i good laugh.

[devilsmile]

Isn't heaven the ultimate goal of religious imbeciles?  Why not just kill yourself now?  Why go through this waiting period?

::waits for made up reasons from "X" holy book (in this case, the bible) as to why it's against god's plan to kill yourself::

I'm a believer but I don't live for god.

Just because one believes in god doesn't mean he dedicates his life to god.

Just because one acknowledges right and wrong doesn't mean he tryes to be unselfish most of the time. Or do you?

I believe in god allright but you would never know unless you plain asked me. I'm just a human being like the rest of you lot, I just don't think I'm special and extraordinary god like being who can create things from nothing, that's all.

lol at you atheists and agnostics.

[Growth NOOB]

I'm a believer but I don't live for god.

Just because one believes in god doesn't mean he dedicates his life to god.

Just because one acknowledges right and wrong doesn't mean he tryes to be unselfish most of the time. Or do you?

I believe in god allright but you would never know unless you plain asked me. I'm just a human being like the rest of you lot, I just don't think I'm special and extraordinary god like being who can create things from nothing, that's all.

lol at you atheists and agnostics.

Replace "god" with the tooth fairy and your post is equally meaningless.

[Swede!]

[Dr Dutch]

It keeps amazing me how religious Americans are. A guy like Obama has no chance to win if he isn't photographed going to church or mention it frequently. I am quite certain he is an utter atheist....

[dr.chimps]

It keeps amazing me how religious Americans are. A guy like Obama has no chance to win if he isn't photographed going to church or mention it frequently. I am quite certain he is an utter atheist....

Pfft. George Bush never went to church during his terms and is somehow a right-wing religious touchstone. You can't explain that!?

[Dr Dutch]

Sure, he's an atheist too. No president is religious, they just pretend to be for the voters. Most people are stupid anyway, believing in that silly bible stuff. I'm glad Holland is beyond that in the 21st century...