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« Reply #25 on: January 30, 2012, 06:13:04 AM »
33 these videos are all old hat. Same crap with all the fake flip flops. I have said it before and I have said it again. Supporting the stimulus that Obama did is different than supporting ANY stimulus. Come on 33, you know better than this. I have always said that what is so pathetic about Obama's stimulus is that MANY Republicans, many of them with great Conservative credentials, would have supported SOME type of smaller stimulus. THAT is what is so pathetic about what Obama did, and is in fact why Republicans really had no choice but to oppose it unanimously. Do you really think Romney supported $800 billion in aid to Democrat interest groups? ROmney probably had some type of smaller targeted stimulus in mind.



Romney's dishonesty on RomneyCare and the mandate tell me all i need to know about him.   He is a liar, and a very bad one at that. 

Had he said - "I thought the mandate was once a good idea, but experience has proven that wrong and I have come to the position that the govt has no business mandating individuals enter into private contracts with private corporations with no price controls"   fine.   I could live with that.

But he is doubling down on stupid because he has other plans once he gets in office that probably would make all of us puke.  I dont trust him one bit. 

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Re: Romney is a white Obama and will lead to the end to the GOP. FUMR!
« Reply #26 on: January 30, 2012, 06:21:10 AM »
“On Dec. 7, 2005, the Romney administration unveiled the final orders. ‘These carbon emission limits will provide real and immediate progress in the battle to improve our environment,’ then-Gov. Romney said in a press release touting Massachusetts as ‘the first and only state to set CO2 emissions limits on power plants.’” (Jonathan Weisman, “Romney Environment Push Is Fresh Target for His Rivals,” The Wall Street Journal, online.wsj.com, 10/6/2011)




I wonder if he is going to use the same bullshit excuse on this when he is exposed as he is on Romneycare. 

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« Reply #27 on: January 30, 2012, 06:27:47 AM »
Romney Explains Why He Can't Beat Obama
The American Spectator ^ | 30 Jan 12 | David Catron





The most telling moment of the debate was (Romney's) response to Rick Santorum's eloquent explanation of Obamacare's importance to the GOP's strategy ...and why giving Romney the nomination would be ...surrendering the high ground on health reform: "Folks, we can't give this issue away in this election. It is about fundamental freedom." ...Romney then uttered the most revealing words of the debate: "First of all, it's not worth getting angry about."

Obama's recent State of the Union address contained only three references to his "signature domestic achievement." This is, as Michael Barone puts it, "the strongest evidence possible" that the President sees Obamacare as "a millstone around the neck of his campaign."

After becoming Governor of Massachusetts... he signed a health reform law that later became the model for Obamacare.

Romney would also have us believe that he will repeal Obamacare in its entirety. ... During a recent interview one of Romney's most important advisors said, "We're not going to do repeal…You can't whole-cloth throw it out...."

Romney's affinity with Democrat positions has not been limited to health reform, of course. He has, for example, often agreed with them on Second Amendment rights.

...abortion. He has changed his position on that issue at least three times....he said, "I believe that abortion should be safe and legal in this country.... Now... he's again "pro-life." How he avoids vertigo while executing so many pirouettes is anyone's guess.

It will, however, be very easy for Obama ...to exploit Romney's flip-flops...The reporters and bloggers ...will be reciting White House talking points. One wonders if, after his resultant loss in November, Romney will find this "worth getting angry about."


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Re: Romney is a white Obama and will lead to the end to the GOP. FUMR!
« Reply #28 on: January 30, 2012, 06:32:00 AM »
"it's not worth getting angry about''

The minute he said that, mouths dropped on republican voters everywhere.

It's the #1 issue many repubs care about - giving away a trillion in debt for healthcare - and romney isn't even upset lol.

he wants to be president of america.  Ron Paul wants to fix america.  there's the diff.

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« Reply #29 on: January 30, 2012, 06:36:06 AM »
"it's not worth getting angry about''

The minute he said that, mouths dropped on republican voters everywhere.

It's the #1 issue many repubs care about - giving away a trillion in debt for healthcare - and romney isn't even upset lol.

he wants to be president of america.  Ron Paul wants to fix america.  there's the diff.



Romney is the fall guy and a patsy.   This is probably what Jeb and GHWB were going to talk about with obama in their little love fest. 

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« Reply #30 on: January 30, 2012, 06:41:18 AM »
maybe... that'd be the biggest CT in history, however.  hard to jump to that conclusion.

my own (sad) guess is that at almost 90 years old, Bush1 has some health issue and wants to visit the white house - a place he spent most of his adult live in some manner or another.

he was in a wheelchair in that pic and sure didn't look like the picture of health he was just a few years ago. 

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« Reply #31 on: January 30, 2012, 06:46:38 AM »
maybe... that'd be the biggest CT in history, however.  hard to jump to that conclusion.

my own (sad) guess is that at almost 90 years old, Bush1 has some health issue and wants to visit the white house - a place he spent most of his adult live in some manner or another.

he was in a wheelchair in that pic and sure didn't look like the picture of health he was just a few years ago. 

My CT is that they are running romney so he can lose but retain the house and get the Senate or gain a lot of seats in the senate.  Obama gets to stay potus for 4 more years and in the next term he will do shit with the GOP like Simpson Bowles or some other crap that will send the demo base into a rage.



 

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« Reply #32 on: January 30, 2012, 07:04:29 AM »
well, if you are ANY republican not named Mitt...

Then you WANT Obama to win 4 more years.

Cause Romney winning means it's 8 or 12 more years before any other real republican gets to be president.  Romney doesn't just steal 4 years.

And even then, he still has to beat obama... and romney looks like john kerry, only worse...

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« Reply #33 on: January 30, 2012, 07:10:49 AM »
well, if you are ANY republican not named Mitt...

Then you WANT Obama to win 4 more years.

Cause Romney winning means it's 8 or 12 more years before any other real republican gets to be president.  Romney doesn't just steal 4 years.

And even then, he still has to beat obama... and romney looks like john kerry, only worse...


This entire election year seems very off.  And what does romney even stand for?  Can anyone tell me? 

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« Reply #34 on: January 30, 2012, 07:23:35 AM »
I haven't been following the election as closely as I should have, but I was wondering...

...do you (anybody who cares to reply) think Romney is trying to "play dumb" to entice republican voters? I'm not a Romney fan, but the guy went to harvard law school and harvard business school, so I think it's safe to say that in comparison to Newt, he is somewhat more intelligent. Why doesn't Romney just break out the intelligence and forget about trying to be a regular joe?

I'm not advocating for Romney or anything like that, I'm just saying, given his options now, I think it would be best for him if he dropped the regular joe crap.

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« Reply #35 on: January 30, 2012, 07:25:54 AM »
romney's flaw (one of them) is that he tries to be 'just like you'.

when he sings who let the dogs out.
when he claims he's unemployed.
when he claims he has had to worry about getting a pink slip.

He seems insincere.  Many people would rather vote for someone they disagree with, then someone whose positions they don't even believe.  Like, you roll with the girl you know is a b***h, over the girl who is nice to your fface but talking behind your back.

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« Reply #36 on: January 30, 2012, 07:33:31 AM »
I haven't been following the election as closely as I should have, but I was wondering...

...do you (anybody who cares to reply) think Romney is trying to "play dumb" to entice republican voters? I'm not a Romney fan, but the guy went to harvard law school and harvard business school, so I think it's safe to say that in comparison to Newt, he is somewhat more intelligent. Why doesn't Romney just break out the intelligence and forget about trying to be a regular joe?

I'm not advocating for Romney or anything like that, I'm just saying, given his options now, I think it would be best for him if he dropped the regular joe crap.


Harvard teaches a lot of bullshit.   Obama and Romney are both pofs when it comes to legal issues.   

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« Reply #37 on: January 30, 2012, 09:38:20 AM »
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Romneycare and Obamacare Are Identical
Sunday, January 29, 2012 09:49 PM
By: Betsy McCaughey





Presidential aspirant Mitt Romney may not have intended that the mandatory health insurance law he signed in 2006 would look like the Obama health law. But the Massachusetts law does a lot more than cover the uninsured (a worthy goal). The law broadens the powers of government to dictate treatment decisions and even interferes in where and how patients die. The result will be a breathtaking shift of decision-making from the doctor at bedside to the state.

The Massachusetts law has come under fire for soaring premiums, now the highest in the nation. A 2011 Beacon Hill Institute study concluded that 18,000 fewer people were employed in the state, because employers required to provide coverage left the state or stopped hiring to avoid the cost. But the cost cutting has begun, and the results are alarming.

Chapter 305 of the 2006 law created councils and regulatory bodies charged with cost-cutting, and after several years they have produced a plan. Here are key components:

Mandatory electronic medical records: All physicians must comply by January 2015 as a condition of keeping their medical license.

Comparative effectiveness: A state board — with unions, consumers, employers and other nonphysicians on it — will synthesize medical research into guidelines and ensure that all insurers and doctors follow them. These guidelines will lay out what care is “medically necessary” and include “how to address individual patient cases and circumstances.” Massachusetts says it and its bureaucrats can make better decisions than highly trained physicians at bedside. (Roadmap to Cost Containment pp. 10, 21,36)

Massachusetts’ End of Life Program: Sec. 41 of Chapter 305 of the Massachusetts law creates an expert panel to deal with how and where people die. The state will launch an aggressive public relations campaign to get hospitals and doctors to encourage palliative care, hospice care, and death at home. In Massachusetts, only 24 percent of people die at home. The state says that is too low. (Roadmap, pp.32,33, 41,90,)

Sometimes a patient doesn’t die at home because the doctor doesn’t foresee that death is imminent. A 2006 Emory University study found that doctors treat patients who are expected to die less intensively than patients who are expected to survive, but often doctors can’t predict who is near the end.

The benefits of hospice care are obvious. But physicians also worry that some patients will break down at the mention of hospice care and lose the will to fight their disease. Ultimately, the question is how involved should government be in how we die, especiall when the goal is to cut costs?.

Ending fee-for-service insurance options: Massachusetts will push patients into “medical homes,” to limit access to costly specialists and diagnostic tests, and substitute nurse practitioners and physicians assistants for doctors.

A 2008 Congressional Budget Office report noted that. if cost control is the priority, medical homes are likely to present the same problems as those  HMOs of 20 years ago.

HMOs would withhold physicians’ fees until the end of the year and give it back only to the physicians who met targets for limiting referrals or diagnostic tests. Ultimately, what a doctor prescribed for a patient came out of the doctor’s own pocket at the end of the year, setting up a conflict between you and your doctor. (Roadmap, p. 14)

ROMNEYCARE                                          OBAMACARE
Individual mandate                                    Individual mandate
Employer mandate                                     Employer mandate
Mandatory electronic records.                     Mandatory electronic records
Comparative effectiveness                         Comparative effectiveness
End of life program                                    End of life program
Medical homes                                           Medical homes

Perhaps Governor Romney didn’t read Section 305 of the health law he signed, or couldn’t anticipate how it would undermine the doctor-patient relationship.

The Massachusetts cost-cutters claim that care could be cut by 20 percent to 30 percent without doing harm. President Obama’s former budget director  Peter Orszag made the same claim to defend deep cuts to Medicare funding.

Don’t believe it. Wherever these cost cutting strategies — the same ones that are in Romneycare and Obamacare — are used, the results are deadly. An important study in the Annals of Internal Medicine (February 2011) based on all hospitals in California shows that seniors treated in hospitals providing more intense care and spending more have a better chance to recover and resume their lives. In fact, 13,813 elderly patients with pneumonia, congestive heart failure, stroke and hip fractures who died at low spending hospitals would have survived and gone home had they received more care. That’s a lesson for Massachusetts and the nation.

Betsy McCaughey, Ph.D., is a former lieutenant governor of New York and author of "The Obama Health Law: What It Says and How to Overturn It."





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« Reply #38 on: January 30, 2012, 11:42:38 AM »
Romney Was 'Independent,' Not Strong Republican
http://freerepublic.com ^ | January 28, 2012 | Newsmax staff



"As the Florida primary looms closer, Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney has more and more strongly identified himself as a consistent conservative and Republican voter, and in Thursday’s GOP debate he implied he always has been.

But a review of the facts paints a different picture and counters Romney’s assertions. In the past, Romney has often gone to considerable lengths to distance himself from Republicans and conservatives.

• Romney had been a lifelong independent before he decided to run for Ted Kennedy’s Senate seat in Massachusetts in 1994, the Boston Globe reported at the time.

When Romney debated Kennedy, Kennedy accused his opponent of trying to return the country to the policies of Reagan-Bush. Romney retorted: “I was an independent during the time of Reagan-Bush. I’m not trying to return to Reagan-Bush.”

• The Los Angeles Times reported that after Romney entered the '94 Senate race, his wife Ann said: “We didn’t know a single Republican when we jumped in.”

The Times also disclosed that Romney even considered running as an independent “before rejecting the idea as impractical.”

• When House Speaker Newt Gingrich was promoting his “Contract with America” in 1994, Romney’s aides said he “had not read the document and had no plans to support it,” the Globe reported.

• Brent Bozell’s Conservative Victory Committee attacked Romney in 1994 for “running away from conservative Republican themes” and espousing a “left-wing agenda.”

• Washington Post columnist David Broder observed during the 1994 Senate campaign: “Eager to show that he is a moderate independent and no ideologue, Romney stressed his support for universal health insurance and abortion rights, criticized the Republican ‘Contract with America,’ and was more outspoken than Kennedy in arguing that the Boy Scouts should not exclude homosexual youths.”

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What a fucking mess.   Mitt Romney is a lying snake.   Good luck to those of you who trust him. 

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« Reply #39 on: January 30, 2012, 12:12:53 PM »





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« Reply #40 on: January 30, 2012, 12:25:56 PM »
Romney is the White Obama? No shit!  I have already said that.  The reason Obama is going to win a second term is the same reason Dubya did.  The opposing party is going to run a schmuck.  Then the 2016 election will basically guarantee a Repub POTUS for two terms.

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« Reply #41 on: January 30, 2012, 12:49:29 PM »
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« Reply #42 on: January 30, 2012, 12:52:16 PM »

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« Reply #43 on: January 30, 2012, 12:53:50 PM »
Romney is a piece of fucking shit. The fact that the republican establishment is so behind him tells me everything I need to know - that there is only 1 party now, cause why in the fuck would they support someone with all the same ideals as Obama if they felt so strongly about how Obama was running the country, and they really wanted to win?
They wouldnt.
Theyre running someone who they know would push all the same shit, and just telling him to speak "republican" to appeal to right wing idiots.  :-\

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« Reply #44 on: January 30, 2012, 12:55:29 PM »
Romney is a piece of fucking shit. The fact that the republican establishment is so behind him tells me everything I need to know - that there is only 1 party now, cause why in the fuck would they support someone with all the same ideals as Obama if they really wanted to win?
They wouldnt.
Theyre running someone who they know would push all the same shit, and just telling him to speak "republican" to appeal to right wing idiots.  :-\

Gonna love this one. 


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« Reply #45 on: January 30, 2012, 12:56:36 PM »
Romney is a piece of fucking shit. The fact that the republican establishment is so behind him tells me everything I need to know - that there is only 1 party now, cause why in the fuck would they support someone with all the same ideals as Obama if they really wanted to win?
They wouldnt.
Theyre running someone who they know would push all the same shit, and just telling him to speak "republican" to appeal to right wing idiots.  :-\

What they are doing is setting up what is called a "Work" in MMA or wrestling.   The average taxpayer gets presented with a false choice.   

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« Reply #46 on: January 30, 2012, 01:00:07 PM »
What really pisses me off is that if they were so pissed with how Obama was running things, they would run someone who is the complete opposite or who appeals to the conservative base -
But they dont.
They just change Mittens stance's on everything (knowing all the time where he really stands) to appeal to "republicans" and pray to god people are too ignorant to do their research (which unfortunatley seems to be true).
This alone tells me the dont think Obama's ideas are wrong or bad - just that theyre vieing for power, they want to be the ones reaping the benefits of all the fucked up shit going on in the WH.
Why else would they push someone who is so close to Obama? Only reason is that they want the same things, they just want to be the ones doing it.  :-\ :-\ :-\

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« Reply #47 on: January 30, 2012, 01:04:09 PM »
What really pisses me off is that if they were so pissed with how Obama was running things, they would run someone who is the complete opposite or who appeals to the conservative base -
But they dont.
They just change Mittens stance's on everything (knowing all the time where he really stands) to appeal to "republicans" and pray to god people are too ignorant to do their research (which unfortunatley seems to be true).
This alone tells me the dont think Obama's ideas are wrong or bad - just that theyre vieing for power, they want to be the ones reaping the benefits of all the fucked up shit going on in the WH.
Why else would they push someone who is so close to Obama? Only reason is that they want the same things, they just want to be the ones doing it.  :-\ :-\ :-\


Here is my CT -  its all a con on the public.    Myth loses 49.5 to Obama 50.5.    GOP keeps the house and gains 3-4 in the Senate. 


Status quo and the middle class gets F U C K E D 


But - if by some measure myth wins - we still get fucked.     

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« Reply #48 on: January 30, 2012, 01:07:53 PM »

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« Reply #49 on: January 30, 2012, 01:17:17 PM »
That last video just confirms everything ive said about why Paul's opponents hate him so much.
He's a good man. He's honest. And he's everything he has been made out to be.
Whereas they are all crafted images that in no way represent who they really are, as they try to be whoever or whatever the public wants them to be.
They hate him because he is and was everything they wish they were.

They hate him because theyre barely human, let alone decent men.
They hate him because he is a good person.
They hate him because he makes them feel like what they really are - big, fat, phoney scumbags who have more in common with street drug dealers than they do with your average hard working blue collar citizen.

Must be hard to pretend to be something youre not for so long, and then have someone show up who is everything you tried to convince people you were.