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« Reply #25 on: February 01, 2012, 06:58:11 AM »
how much masteron? last time i did mast tren test together and my body changed visually for a bit but i seemed to hit a wall and didnt feel like i could grow while i was on it just felt hard and tight.

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« Reply #26 on: February 01, 2012, 06:59:03 AM »
can someone chime in on the injecting growth into the delts thing. will it cause localized growth or what?

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« Reply #27 on: February 01, 2012, 07:17:21 AM »
can someone chime in on the injecting growth into the delts thing. will it cause localized growth or what?

probably but it's very minimal. i notice localized fat loss in my stomach when i pin sub-q

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« Reply #28 on: February 01, 2012, 08:16:37 AM »
how much masteron? last time i did mast tren test together and my body changed visually for a bit but i seemed to hit a wall and didnt feel like i could grow while i was on it just felt hard and tight.
 

your right masteron wont do much but will b a healthier anti estrogen on lipids ,

once u had do aromasin for 4 weeks obviously

 wil do everything equal 150mg tren enan 150 masteron enan 150 testo enan everyday + prami 2.5 am pm ( i foudn caber n dostinex harsh ,, prami your happy n horny n gh releaser n easy on stomach )

i wrote all enan esther ,since , you mention long esther testo enan ,

but i prefer , testo ace . master prop , tren ace blend ,, quick acting easier on mind health

 lentus 100ui ed morning or 50ui you follow track waist , gh am pm 10ui , if can handle joint pain n sleeping pattern

anadrol if can handle , even + eq , even + primo lol
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« Reply #29 on: February 01, 2012, 10:35:51 AM »
I will cut test down to 250mg a week or replace with prop and add masteron and keep the rest the same.

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« Reply #30 on: February 01, 2012, 01:17:57 PM »
why such low test isnt it the staple for everything

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« Reply #31 on: February 01, 2012, 01:49:56 PM »
why such low test isnt it the staple for everything
first of all you running almost 2g of test and 700mg drol that alot of estrogen side you will get, fat and water and plus you not taking any aromatase inhibitors, second gh with the dosage you take would not help to fight this problem

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« Reply #32 on: February 01, 2012, 02:36:13 PM »
My thoughts... first as I always ask... what are your goals?

I would adjust the cycle so it looks like this:

Test E 250 shot twice per week (Mon and Thurs)
Test Prop 100 - EOD
Tren Ace 100 - 1.5 CC ED
EQ 200 - EOD
Primobolan 100 - ED
Masteron - As needed for Anti Estrogen
Anadrol - 150 mgs ED (if you are lean enough at starting point)

With the HGH - you're working with 15 iu's ED so break this down randomly each day.  this is something I learned fairly recently and really makes a difference.  What I mean is... some days go 7.5 am/pm... others 15 iu blast post workout... skip a day and double up the next day.  do 3 injections on 5 iu or 5 injections of 3 iu... constantly random.  this mimicks how GH is released in your body as a child and in my experience has actually proven more effective for muscle growth.

What was your thinking when you wrote out this cycle?  Sure, it's almost 6 grams of gear per week not including orals, but why did you choose these compounds at these doses, etc?  Also, at almost 6 grams per week, if you can afford it, up the GH.


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« Reply #33 on: February 01, 2012, 04:02:26 PM »
That is allot of stuff for 240 around 10%, your nuts! 25 as well, jesus! RIP son

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« Reply #34 on: February 01, 2012, 06:05:40 PM »
My thoughts... first as I always ask... what are your goals?

I would adjust the cycle so it looks like this:

Test E 250 shot twice per week (Mon and Thurs)
Test Prop 100 - EOD
Tren Ace 100 - 1.5 CC ED
EQ 200 - EOD
Primobolan 100 - ED
Masteron - As needed for Anti Estrogen
Anadrol - 150 mgs ED (if you are lean enough at starting point)

With the HGH - you're working with 15 iu's ED so break this down randomly each day.  this is something I learned fairly recently and really makes a difference.  What I mean is... some days go 7.5 am/pm... others 15 iu blast post workout... skip a day and double up the next day.  do 3 injections on 5 iu or 5 injections of 3 iu... constantly random.  this mimicks how GH is released in your body as a child and in my experience has actually proven more effective for muscle growth.

What was your thinking when you wrote out this cycle?  Sure, it's almost 6 grams of gear per week not including orals, but why did you choose these compounds at these doses, etc?  Also, at almost 6 grams per week, if you can afford it, up the GH.



i doubt th difference between 150mg n 100mg is grandiose

but it only a theory i could not handle anadrol more then 100mg a day
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« Reply #36 on: February 01, 2012, 06:10:07 PM »
cycle is a mess ,bro...too much shit..EQ and DECA  together?/ why??

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« Reply #37 on: February 01, 2012, 06:36:47 PM »
cycle is a mess ,bro...too much shit..EQ and DECA  together?/ why??

PIMP! Lol...

Show him whats up bro and turn that into a cycle that you would draw up

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« Reply #38 on: February 01, 2012, 06:37:50 PM »
i doubt th difference between 150mg n 100mg is grandiose

but it only a theory i could not handle anadrol more then 100mg a day

I have to admit, I like anadrol.  Strength I get from it is fun and it fills me out well.

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« Reply #39 on: February 01, 2012, 08:14:05 PM »
cycle is a mess ,bro...too much shit..EQ and DECA  together?/ why??
some ppl stack eq with deca just for the joints benefits

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« Reply #40 on: February 01, 2012, 08:23:30 PM »
some ppl stack eq with deca just for the joints benefits

People do use Decq just for its joint benefits.  However, I think you can enjoy the joint benefits of it at a much lower dose than 250 mg ed

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« Reply #41 on: February 01, 2012, 08:27:35 PM »
i want to grow as much pure muscle as possible im in the off season but dont want bodyfat to get any higher than ten so i dont have to drasticly diet for comp. i chose eq for slow solid gains, deca because i tore my hamstring two months ago and thought it would help prevent another injury, tren because theres nothing better, anadrol because it causes great size gains, test because ive never ran a cycle without it and growth is appearently the end all be all drug. im trying to put on as much size as possible if that helps any. im open to change things, just trying to get the sickest gains possible, and as far as cost i have great source so cost isnt a problem. i can up gh to 20 if it will make a significant difference. as far as that goes would you run it every day or 5 on 2 off or what? like i said im pretty much just looking for the ultimate cycle for insane muscular gains, i dont care about being shredded right now, i dont ever totally lose my abs anyway so im not that worried about trying to cut after the bulk. also if you suggest a cycle and dose can you give me a suggestion on calorie intake to get huge as well. thanks alot

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« Reply #42 on: February 01, 2012, 08:33:10 PM »
I have to admit, I like anadrol.  Strength I get from it is fun and it fills me out well.

yes of course but 150 much different then 100 ?
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« Reply #43 on: February 01, 2012, 08:34:02 PM »
cycle is a mess ,bro...too much shit..EQ and DECA  together?/ why??

eq = make performance, condition ,  rbc + epo

deca nourish joint

that my brologic gym rat view
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« Reply #44 on: February 01, 2012, 08:43:26 PM »
when you on gh and slin you don't count calories.

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« Reply #45 on: February 01, 2012, 08:54:42 PM »
when you on gh and slin you don't count calories.
is there not a round about number to at least shoot for? or a minimum number of grams of protien and carbs?

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« Reply #46 on: February 01, 2012, 09:08:33 PM »
is there not a round about number to at least shoot for? or a minimum number of grams of protien and carbs?
there is no numbers you eat when you hungry dont count calories , carbs more importent when you on this cycle, you only start watching your calories when you getting close to the show

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« Reply #47 on: February 01, 2012, 11:10:12 PM »
fat intake nourish hormones and your on steroid , fat intake is primordial

i like off season , 200 gr fat - 400 gr protein 600-1000 carb ( karbolyn + vitargo )
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« Reply #48 on: February 02, 2012, 07:18:30 AM »
 BLP, you say no deca w Tren. What about NPP and Tren???

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« Reply #49 on: February 02, 2012, 08:37:25 AM »
Way to much gear per week,unless you`re Ronnie.