Yes Yates was smaller, but so much more impressive looking than Coleman

[The_Hammer]

Bodypart Breakdown:

Trapezius: Yates
Deltoids: Coleman
Biceps: Coleman
Triceps: Yates
Forearms: Yates
Chest: Yates
Abs: Yates
Quads: Coleman
Calves: Yates
Lats: ?
Glutes: Coleman
Hamstrings: Coleman

[Metabolic]

Bodypart Breakdown:

Trapezius: Yates
Deltoids: Coleman
Biceps: Coleman
Triceps: Yates
Forearms: Yates
Chest: Yates
Abs: Yates
Quads: Coleman
Calves: Yates
Lats: ?
Glutes: Coleman
Hamstrings: Coleman

Almost everything agreed except for Chest, before Coleman was impregnated by the seed of the devil he had the best breasts in the physique construction discipline.  Trceps is too close to call, same with lats, Colemann had better Teres and probably better Traps.

[The_Hammer]

Almost everything agreed except for Chest, before Coleman was impregnated by the seed of the devil he had the best breasts in the physique construction discipline.  Trceps is too close to call, same with lats, Colemann had better Teres and probably better Traps.

Chest was a toss up.  Ronnie had the bigger chest, but it was too long for his torso and didn't look great.

Yates clearly has the better triceps IMO.  Triceps were one of Ronnie's few weakpoints.

I give the upper back to Yates.  Coleman had the biggest upper traps of all time, but Yates had overall impressive trap development from top to bottom.  Coleman's lower traps were somewhat a weakpoint compared to his huge lats.

[Metabolic]

Chest was a toss up.  Ronnie had the bigger chest, but it was too long for his torso and didn't look great.

Yates clearly has the better triceps IMO.  Triceps were one of Ronnie's few weakpoints.

I give the upper back to Yates.  Coleman had the biggest upper traps of all time, but Yates had overall impressive trap development from top to bottom.  Coleman's lower traps were somewhat a weakpoint compared to his huge lats.

I'll only concede as a weak point for Coolman that he had shit calves, his triceps and overall arms were great, top 3 anyday.  And I think that for the three fibers its really really really hard to call...both had impressive huge backs and its such a "little" muscle that I dont venture to judge. All in all, we agree a lot.

[Hulkster]

Bodypart Breakdown:

Trapezius: Yates
Deltoids: Coleman
Biceps: Coleman
Triceps: Yates
Forearms: Yates
Chest: Yates
Abs: Yates
Quads: Coleman
Calves: Yates
Lats: ?
Glutes: Coleman
Hamstrings: Coleman

LOL chest and traps Yates? bwahahahahahahahaa

no contest at all

[Hulkster]

dorian's back was harder but was so thin.

ronnie's back had it all: detail, better symmetry, thickness

dorian's back was one dimensional in comparison

detailed and hard, but thin and not nearly as wide

[ARNIE1947]

 

[ARNIE1947]

 

[johnny1]

dorian's back was harder but was so thin.

ronnie's back had it all: detail, better symmetry, thickness

dorian's back was one dimensional in comparison

detailed and hard, but thin and not nearly as wide

I wonder if even you believe some of the things you come up with sometimes, ive never heard Dorian's back EVER being referred too as THIN, even @ his WORST his back was incredibly THICK and Detailed and WIDE however i guess we see "What" we want to see now dont we, when both in their primes they BOTH had 3 Dimensional backs from another planet 50-50 ether way.

[Zé galinha]

hi Ron.

[ARNIE1947]

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[ARNIE1947]

hi Ron.

Hi Yates.

[Hulkster]

ive never heard Dorian's back EVER being referred too as THIN,

refer to the truce thread for many people commenting that his back was thin relative to ronnie's
sure, its thick compared to Lee Labrada's

but Lee Labrada is not ronnie, even if he has better arms than dorian :

[johnny1]

refer to the truce thread for many people commenting that his back was thin relative to ronnie's
sure, its thick compared to Lee Labrada's

but Lee Labrada is not ronnie, even if he has better arms than dorian :

Im learning more and more off you all the time such a honer, the fact that these 3 pictures of Yates @ his WORST in 1997 and 1994 i guess back up your Dialog against (arguably) Ron @ his best in 1998, 99 and the other 1 from 2001....yip spot on as usual your really good thanks for your experience and wisdom.

[Grape Ape]

dorian's back was harder but was so thin.

What was the last pro show you attended?   Just curious.

[The_Hammer]

LOL chest and traps Yates? bwahahahahahahahaa

no contest at all

You're clearly bias.

Your opinion means nothing.

Your post are a waste of bandwidth.

[mesmorph78]

LOL chest and traps Yates? bwahahahahahahahaa

no contest at all

Exactly traps Yates ha ha ha ha
Coleman had the best traps hands down

[The_Hammer]

Exactly traps Yates ha ha ha ha
Coleman had the best traps hands down

I disagree.

Coleman had awesome upper traps, but his lower traps weren't in proportion.




Guys like Dorian Yates, Ray McNeil, and Lee Haney had big and well proportioned traps:

[RocketSwitch625]

Hulkster's favourite pic:

[Hulkster]

What was the last pro show you attended?   Just curious.

I have never had the opportunity to attend a pro show.

but I have been to a pro seminar at my local gym. pros are massive upclose.

nimrod king, who made the top 15 at the 1991 Mr. O, is from around my area.

and no, it does not change the fact that dorian was not as good as ronnie.

brutal failure at deflection

nimrod king:

[Hulkster]

Hulkster's favourite pic:

rocketbitch's fav dorian pic

[nicorulez]

Lawl, yeah, a more fair comparison where Ronnie's waist is as wide wider than Dorians, epic fail broseph.
Epic fail.

This is pretty bad bro, this is almost Hulkster status... 

Shockwave,
Go back to bed. The difference is that those pics of Dorian were prior to the 1993 Mr. Olympia and he was not anywhere as big on stage. His alltime best by far are those pics. In 2005, his left twig of a bicep was shatttered...symmetry was done. Those pics of Ronnie were not even his best. He showed up better and bigger in the actual shows. However, in those pics you can clearly see that Ronnie's thighs are more striated and aghast his upper calves were the same size. Dorian had a long gastrocnemius muscle that added width to his lower leg. Ronnie had better arms, but I am actually impressed by the size of Yate's arms in that photo....best ever for him. The lighting was black and white for Dorian which brought out contrast. Google the 1993 Mr. Olympia when he won and he was not nearly as impressive. If you are honest with yourself, Dorian of 1993 had the best chance to beat Coleman in his prime. Dorian of 2005 was incredibly large and ripped, but he was asymmetrical which would have been a factor against a bigger guy with more muscle and equally impressive bodyparts. Comparing waists on both sides is a joke, neither was ever known for having a small waist. Conditioned yes, but small hell no.

[Hulkster]

remember though, dorian was in offseason (or more like precontest) weight for that shoot.

thats why his arms were so big.

on stage, they never looked like that, and always looked way undersized, damaging his symmetry.

[Iceman1981]

Shockwave,
Go back to bed. The difference is that those pics of Dorian were prior to the 1993 Mr. Olympia and he was not anywhere as big on stage. His alltime best by far are those pics. In 2005, his left twig of a bicep was shatttered...symmetry was done. Those pics of Ronnie were not even his best. He showed up better and bigger in the actual shows. However, in those pics you can clearly see that Ronnie's thighs are more striated and aghast his upper calves were the same size. Dorian had a long gastrocnemius muscle that added width to his lower leg. Ronnie had better arms, but I am actually impressed by the size of Yate's arms in that photo....best ever for him. The lighting was black and white for Dorian which brought out contrast. Google the 1993 Mr. Olympia when he won and he was not nearly as impressive. If you are honest with yourself, Dorian of 1993 had the best chance to beat Coleman in his prime. Dorian of 2005 was incredibly large and ripped, but he was asymmetrical which would have been a factor against a bigger guy with more muscle and equally impressive bodyparts. Comparing waists on both sides is a joke, neither was ever known for having a small waist. Conditioned yes, but small hell no.

Dorian 2005? I guess you mean 1995.

[Iceman1981]

Great review of Dorian's 1993 Mr. Olympia win (which I consider his best). They mention his strengths and all of the things Dorian needed to improve like Outer Thigh Sweep, Ham/Glute Tie Ins, and Bigger Biceps. Dorian never did improve on these things. All of the things they mentioned for Dorian to improve on, a prime Ronnie already had. Plus, it's crazy,they predicted the future about him getting injured. Here is the whole quote:

Points To Refine: "Oh, puleeze. None really, though it wouldn't hurt to add slightly to outer-thigh sweep and ham/glute tie-ins. Training heavy all the time may predispose him to injury. Could use a tad more biceps to match the hugeness of his other body parts."

Open the attachment for larger pic.