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Re: Obama Budget Deficit for 2012 - $1.33 Trillion Dollars
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Re: Obama Budget Deficit for 2012 - $1.33 Trillion Dollars
« Reply #26 on: February 13, 2012, 07:00:30 PM »
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Obama's budget: Government still getting bigger

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WASHINGTON (AP) -- Taking a pass on reining in government growth, President Barack Obama unveiled a record $3.8 trillion election-year budget plan Monday, calling for stimulus-style spending on roads and schools and tax hikes on the wealthy to help pay the costs. The ideas landed with a thud on Capitol Hill.

Though the Pentagon and a number of Cabinet agencies would get squeezed, Obama would leave the spiraling growth of health care programs for the elderly and the poor largely unchecked. The plan claims $4 trillion in deficit savings over the coming decade, but most of it would be through tax increases Republicans oppose, lower war costs already in motion and budget cuts enacted last year in a debt pact with GOP lawmakers.

Many of the ideas in the White House plan for the 2013 budget year will be thrashed out during this year's election campaigns as the Republicans try to oust Obama from the White House and add Senate control to their command of the House.

"We can't just cut our way into growth," Obama said at a campaign-style rally at a community college in the vote-rich Northern Virginia suburbs. "We can cut back on the things that we don't need, but we also have to make sure that everyone is paying their fair share for the things that we do need."

Republicans were unimpressed. While the measure contains some savings to Medicare and Medicaid, generally by reducing payments to health providers, both programs would double in size over the coming decade.

"It seems like the president has decided again to campaign instead of govern and that he's just going to duck this country's fiscal problems," said House Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan, R-Wis.

By the administration's reckoning, the deficit would drop to $901 billion next year - still requiring the government to borrow 24 cents of every dollar it spends - and would settle in the $600 billion-plus range by 2015.The deficit for the current budget year, which ends Sept. 30, would hit $1.3 trillion, a near record and the fourth straight year of trillion-plus red ink.

Obama's budget blueprint reprises a long roster of prior proposals: raising taxes on couples making more than $250,000 a year; eliminating numerous tax breaks for oil and gas companies, and approving a series of smaller tax and fee proposals. Similar proposals failed even when the Democrats controlled Congress.

The Pentagon would cut purchases of Navy ships and F-35 Joint Strike Fighters - and trim 100,000 troops from its rolls over coming years - while NASA would scrap two missions to Mars.

But there are spending increases, too: The Obama plan seeks $476 billion for transportation projects including roads, bridges and a much-criticized high-speed rail initiative. Grants for better performing schools would get a big increase under Obama's "Race to the Top" initiative, and there would be an $8 billion fund to train community college students for high-growth industries.

Republicans accused the president of yet again failing to do anything meaningful to reduce deficits that could threaten the country with a European-style debt crisis unless they are wrestled under control.

As a political document, the Obama plan blends a handful of jobs-boosting initiatives with poll-tested tax hikes on the rich, including higher taxes on dividends and income earned by hedge fund managers. That would allow Obama to draw a contrast with GOP front-runner Mitt Romney, whose personal fortune and relatively low tax rate would be an issue in the general election campaign.

Another contrast with Republicans will come on Medicare, the enormously popular health care program for the elderly. Obama leaves the program mostly alone, while Republicans are on record in favor of gradually replacing the current system in which the government pays doctor and hospital bills with a voucher-like plan that would have government subsidize purchases of health insurance.

Nor does Obama tackle Social Security's fiscal imbalance. Payroll taxes paid into the program fall well short of what's needed to cover benefits; the shortfall is made up by tapping into a $2.7 trillion trust fund that's built up since the last overhaul of the program in the early 1980s.

Said Romney: "We can save Social Security and Medicare with a few commonsense reforms, and - unlike President Obama - I'm not afraid to put them on the table."

The president's tax proposals and most of his new jobs initiatives are likely to arrive as dead letters on Capitol Hill, where the immediate focus is on Obama's proposal to renew a 2 percentage point cut in Social Security payroll taxes and jobless benefits for the long-term unemployed. House GOP leaders did an abrupt about-face on Monday and declared that they are willing to add to the deficit the $100 billion cost of renewing the payroll tax cut.

While Obama and Congress appear headed for deadlock over big-picture questions such as Medicare cuts and tax hikes, there's still the work of filling in the details of last summer's budget and debt pact, which set tight caps on annual appropriations bills funding the day-to-day operations of government.

Those caps are putting most agencies in a pinch, though the Department of Veterans Affairs would win a 4.5 percent increase, the Energy Department would get a 3.5 percent hike, while Treasury gets a 4.2 percent boost reflecting increases for the IRS.

The Pentagon, which had grown used to budget increases well in excess of inflation until recently, would absorb its first outright budget cut since the post-Cold War "peace dividend" of the early 1990s, including cuts to major weapons systems, fewer combat ships and the reduction in troops.

The budget for medical research at the National Institutes for Health would be frozen after years of reliable increases and the Environmental Protection Agency would bear a 4 percent cut after coming under assault by Republicans for two consecutive budget cycles. Special education grants to schools would be essentially frozen.

On taxes, Obama proposes allowing the Bush-era tax cuts to expire at the end of this year for families making $250,000 or more per year.

Obama, as he has in the past, also proposed limiting tax deductions taken by the wealthy and would also put in place a rule named for billionaire Warren Buffett that would seek to make sure that households making more than $1 million annually pay at least 30 percent of their income in taxes.

Obama would also impose a new $61 billion tax over 10 years on big banks aimed at recovering the costs of the financial bailout and providing money to help homeowners facing foreclosure. The proposal also would raise $41 billion over 10 years by eliminating tax breaks for oil, gas and coal companies.

The plan contains a host of other proposals whose budget impact would be modest but would be felt by almost everyone, among them an end to Saturday mail delivery. There's also a plan to raise $593 million by eliminating deductions for golf course conservation easement and a plan that would raise the one-way security fee on airline tickets to $7.50, up from fees that are now as low as $2.50 for a nonstop flight.

To spur job creation in the short term, Obama is proposing a $50 billion "upfront" investment for transportation, $30 billion to modernize at least 35,000 schools and $30 billion to help states hire teachers and police, rescue and fire department workers. Republicans in Congress, opposed to further stimulus spending, have blocked these proposals in the past.

The Obama budget seeks $360 billion in savings in Medicare and Medicaid mainly through reduced payments to health care providers, avoiding tougher measures advocated by House Republicans and the deficit commissions, which supporters said were critical to the cause of restraining health care costs.

The projections in Obama's budget show that he is doing little to restrain the surge in these programs that is expected with the retirement of baby boomers. Obama's budget projects that Medicare spending will double over the coming decade from $478 billion this year to almost $1 trillion in 2022.

Medicaid, the government health care program for the poor and disabled, would more than double from $255 billion this year to $589 billion by 2022.

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Associated Press Economics Writer Martin Crutsinger contributed to this report.

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Re: Obama Budget Deficit for 2012 - $1.33 Trillion Dollars
« Reply #27 on: February 13, 2012, 07:14:46 PM »
Obama: Not Raising Taxes is a Form of Government Spending
By Fred Lucas
February 13, 2012
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President Obama speaks about his 2013 budget proposals and the "Community College to Career Fund" at Northern Virginia Community College in Annandale, Va. on Monday, Feb. 13, 2012 (AP Photo/Susan Walsh)

(CNSNews.com) – Announcing his budget plans for fiscal year 2013 in an address at Northern Virginia Community College in Annandale, Va., President Barack Obama characterized the current income tax rates--signed into law by President Bush a decade ago--as a form of government spending.

Essentially, the president said that the federal government "spends" when it does not raise taxes.

“Right now, we’re scheduled to spend more than $1 trillion more on what was intended to be a temporary tax cut for the wealthiest two percent of Americans,” Obama said. “We’ve already spent about that much. Now we’re expected to spend another $1 trillion. Keep in mind, a quarter of all millionaires pay lower tax rates than millions of middle class households. You’ve heard me say it: Warren Buffett pays a lower tax rate than his secretary.”

Despite the bankruptcies of three green energy companies that received heavy doses of federal tax dollars, Obama also pledged Monday to “double down on clean energy.”

The budget proposal faces an uncertain future on Capitol Hill. Democrats, who control the Senate, have said it is not necessary to vote on a budget for next year. Republicans, who control the House, have criticized the Obama budget, saying it contains too many tax hikes and not enough spending cuts.

Obama said his tax and spending plan would save $4 trillion by 2022. However, the budget proposal for the fiscal year beginning Oct. 1, projects a $1.33 trillion deficit, marking a fourth consecutive year of trillion-dollar deficits. The president’s plan projects that the deficit would drop to $901 billion in 2013, and to $575 billion by 2018.

Obama told the college audience that trimming the deficit was important, but stressed that “investments” was important as well. He focused the bulk of the speech on an $8 billion program to establish a partnership with community colleges and businesses.



“An economy built to last demands that we keep doing everything we can to help students learn the skills that businesses are looking for,” Obama said. “It means we have to keep strengthening American manufacturing.”

If approved, the “Community College to Career Fund” would be co-administered by the Department of Labor and the Department of Education. The fund is designed to establish an alliance between community colleges and businesses to train workers and entrepreneurs for industries offering the most opportunities.

Obama’s budget proposal would raise an estimated $41 billion over 10 years by eliminating tax breaks for oil, gas and coal companies. He pledged to put more money instead into energy sources which critics note have a more mixed record.

“It means we’ve got to keep on investing in American energy. We’ve got to double down on the clean energy that is creating jobs. But, it also means we’ve got to renew the American values of fair play and shared responsibility.”

Elsewhere in the speech, Obama reiterated the point: “We need to reduce our dependence on foreign oil by ending the subsidies for oil companies, and doubling down on clean energy that generates jobs and strengthens our security.”

In the past year, three firms that received federal loans or grants filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy after getting grants or loans from the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act, also known as the Stimulus.

In January, Indiana-based Ener1, which makes batteries for electric vehicles, announced it had filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection. The company had been awarded a $118.5 million from the Energy Department.

The Obama administration has been under fire for a $535 million stimulus-funded loan it made to California-based solar panel company Solyndra, which filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection last fall before being raided by the FBI. Also late last fall, the Massachusetts-based Beacon Power, a green energy storage plant that received $43 million in stimulus funds, filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection.

‘Buffett Rule’

The president’s budget also calls for ending the Bush tax-cuts for households earning more than $250,000 per year and individuals earning $200,000 annually.

“The budget that we are releasing today is a reflection of shared responsibility,” Obama said. “It says that if we’re serious about investing in our future, investing in community colleges, investing in new energy technology, investing in basic research, we’ll, we’ve got to pay for it. That means we’ve got to make some choices.”

The budget includes $1.5 trillion in new tax hikes. Obama’s budget would seek to implement what he calls the “Buffett Rule,” to make sure households making more than $1 million annually pay at least 30 percent of their income in taxes.

“Right now, we’re scheduled to spend more than $1 trillion more on what was intended to be a temporary tax cut for the wealthiest two percent of Americans,” he said. “We’ve already spent about that much. Now we’re expected to spend another $1 trillion. Keep in mind, a quarter of all millionaires pay lower tax rates than millions of middle class households. You’ve heard me say it: Warren Buffett pays a lower tax rate than his secretary.”

Obama has referred in the past to “spending in the tax code” – equating raising taxes with cutting spending. In this case, the $1 trillion the president was referring to was not actual government expenditures, but rather an estimate of what the government would have raised in revenue had the tax cuts not been in place.

Obama also proposes to levy a new $61 billion tax over 10 years on big banks aimed at recovering the costs of the financial bailout and providing money to help homeowners facing foreclosure on their homes.

He wants another $476 billion in increased spending on transportation to including inner-city rail services; $30 billion to modernize at least 35,000 schools and $30 billion to help states hire teachers and fire, police and rescue personnel.

The Peter G. Peterson Foundation, a non-partisan group focused on raising awareness about the country’s fiscal problems, said the budget proposal does not go far enough in address the real problems of entitlement spending and tax reform that are driving up the national debt.

“Unfortunately, these measures are not sufficient to put America on a sustainable long-term fiscal path,” the vice chairman Michael A. Peterson said in a statement.

“Even under optimistic assumptions, the president's own numbers show debt rising rapidly after 2022 and reaching levels that would put the economy at risk. The true test of any fiscal plan is whether or not it stabilizes the federal debt as a percentage of the economy,” he said.




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Re: Obama Budget Deficit for 2012 - $1.33 Trillion Dollars
« Reply #28 on: February 13, 2012, 07:25:45 PM »
The Usurper is completely out of control.

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Re: Obama Budget Deficit for 2012 - $1.33 Trillion Dollars
« Reply #29 on: February 14, 2012, 03:53:58 AM »
FACT CHECK: (Liar) Obama enlists some familiar phantoms to make the numbers add up in his new budget
chicago tribune ^ | 2/14/2012 | CALVIN WOODWARD/ap
Posted on February 14, 2012 6:58:00 AM EST by tobyhill

When a president introduces a budget, there are always phantoms flitting around the room. President Barack Obama's spending plan sets loose a number of them.

It counts on phantom savings from the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. It's underpinned by tax increases Republicans won't let happen and program cuts fellow Democrats in Congress are all but certain to block.

And it assumes rates of growth that the economy will have to become strikingly undead to achieve.

A look at three budget ghosts, sometimes known as gimmicks:

Claims about $850 billion in savings from ending the wars and steers some $230 billion of that to highways.

REALITY: There is no direct peace dividend from ending the wars because the government borrowed to pay for them. The government would have to keep borrowing that amount of money to have it to spend on something else.

Counting the end of wars as a dividend is like a student coming out of college loaded with debt and aching to buy things, says Maya MacGuineas, president of the Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget. "When you finish college, you don't suddenly have thousands of dollars a year to spend elsewhere — in fact, you have to find a way to pay back your loans."

MacGuineas says, "Drawing down spending on wars that were already set to wind down and that were deficit-financed in the first place should not be considered savings."

(Excerpt) Read more at chicagotribune.com ...

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Re: Obama Budget Deficit for 2012 - $1.33 Trillion Dollars
« Reply #30 on: February 14, 2012, 04:02:36 AM »
Sperling, who held the same position under the less-athletic Bill Clinton, said his basketball-loving boss’s policies are “as complementary as good hitting, good pitching and good fielding is for a baseball team — or, to seasonally adjust, good shooting, good rebounding and good playmaking.”

By the end of the session with reporters, Sperling was just running up the score. “So I think this president has very much stepped up to the plate,” he concluded.

All the sports talk amounted to a head fake, or perhaps a quarterback sneak, because the real game the White House was playing was dodgeball: evading anything resembling a serious budget proposal.

The White House’s budget for fiscal 2013 begins with a broken promise, adds some phony policy assumptions, throws in a few rosy forecasts and omits all kinds of painful decisions. Even then, the proposal would add $1 trillion more to the national debt than Obama contemplated a few months ago — and it is a non-starter on Capitol Hill, where even Senate Democrats have no plans to take it up. It is, in other words, exactly what it was supposed to be: a campaign document.

The opposition picked up Sperling’s metaphor and ran with it. “He has punted again,” said Paul Ryan (R-Wis.), the House Budget Committee chairman.

Actually, it was more of a kickoff, and Ryan opted to receive: He’ll introduce his own budget in the coming weeks, and it is likely to have large tax cuts for the wealthy and deep cuts to entitlement programs — giving Obama exactly the foil he wants for the fall campaign.

But as a budget writer, Obama whiffed. The Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget, although offering a few kind words for the president’s proposal, said the plan “would barely stabilize the debt — and at too high a level.”

The budget calls for hundreds of billions of dollars in new spending. It shows deficits exceeding $600 billion in every year but one over the next decade, while the debt grows to $18.7 trillion.

As such, the rollout couldn’t have been more purely political if it had included a balloon drop. After Obama gave his budget speech, Jeffrey Zients, the acting budget director, appeared with colleagues at the Eisenhower Executive Office Building to vouch for the plan.

“As a business person,” he said, “I believe the president’s budget makes the right investments. . . . This is good for business.”

Wearing a fine suit, purple tie and spread-collar shirt for the performance, the multimillionaire management consultant pointed out that the budget is much more responsible than an imaginary “baseline” budget, in which all tax cuts are extended permanently.

Zients introduced a colleague, Domestic Policy Council Director Cecilia Munoz, announcing that she “is going to double-click on the pillar of education.” Munoz followed up by explaining that “with the education piece, there are three or four buckets.”

But the reporters did not wish to hear about pillars and buckets. Reuters’s Caren Bohan asked about Obama’s promise, upon entering the White House, to cut the deficit in half by the end of his term. Zients and Sperling looked at each other and hesitated. “When the president came into office, we knew things weren’t in good shape, but we didn’t realize how bad they actually were,” Zients finally answered.

The Washington Post’s Lori Montgomery asked why the projected debt had swelled by $1 trillion since September. Zients spoke about “differences in economic assumptions.”

But that didn’t hold up, because the Economist’s Greg Ip pointed out that the White House is using an optimistic 3 percent forecast for economic growth this year, higher than the Federal Reserve and private-sector forecasts.

Alan Krueger, chairman of the Council of Economic Advisers, said the lofty projection was made “under the presumption that the president’s proposals will become law” — a presumption that does not seem at all safe.

CBS’s Nora O’Donnell asked why the White House decided to “take a pass on entitlements” in the budget.

“I don’t think we take a pass,” Zients replied.

Technically, he’s correct. It was more of a fumble.


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Re: Obama Budget Deficit for 2012 - $1.33 Trillion Dollars
« Reply #31 on: February 14, 2012, 05:30:15 AM »
Krauthammer: Obama's Budget Proposal A Budget For Greece, "Scandalous"


Krauthammer says Obama "just wants to get past election day" on the budget "as he does everything on."

"They're not going to win the general election unless they make spending and debt the issue that it really is and that Americans are worried about," Charles Krautahmmer said on "Special Report" tonight.

"They are accepting the President's premise that somehow all of us have become Occupy Wall Street and everybody thinks if you redistribute income it would solve our economic problems. The cynicism -- I'm rarely accused of being not cynical enough, so let me be even more cynical. The President knows that we are heading over a cliff and he just wants to get past election day as he does everything on. Keystone, on debt ceiling limits, on everything. But this is a budget worthy of Greece. And for the President of the United States to offer it, knowing how dire our situation is, is truly scandalous," he said.


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Re: Obama Budget Deficit for 2012 - $1.33 Trillion Dollars
« Reply #32 on: February 14, 2012, 07:11:18 AM »
Obama’s Tax Insanity
FrontPage Magazine ^ | February 14, 2012 | Rick Moran





President Obama unveiled his budget for Fiscal Year 2013 on Monday and threw down the gauntlet to Republicans, daring them to oppose his idea of “fairness” in an election year — ideas that, as he will frame the debate, will no doubt be popular with many Americans. Indeed, as CNN’s Alan Silverleib points out in his analysis, “It’s all about election year 2012, not fiscal year 2013.”

It is an extraordinary document. Not because it has a ghost of a chance of becoming law, but because it reveals themes and issues the president plans to run on in the fall, while exposing the rancid nature of Obama’s redistributionist ideas: taking, taking – and then taking some more — from those who produce and create the nation’s wealth and jobs all in the name of a cynically dishonest notion of “fairness.”

It is also extraordinary because in a year that the administration projects the government will run a deficit of $901 billion dollars (a rosy scenario considering Obama has yet to come anywhere close to achieving his deficit goals), the president is proposing hundreds of billions of dollars in new spending. In essence, Mr. Obama is not taxing producers in an effort to slow the runaway spending and deficits his policies have caused. He is going to use those new found revenues in a bid to buy votes by divvying up the extra cash among favored constituencies.

Obama said his budget would “renew the American values of fair play and shared responsibility.” But how does he square that with the “values” of the president and his party where cronyism, political favoritism, and corruption dominate the landscape? How does the president get away with talking about “fair play” and “playing by the same rules” when his party continuously demonstrates a predilection for favoring groups based not on merit, but on the color of their skin, their ethnicity, their sexual preference, their gender, and their affiliation – or not – with a union? It is this kind of hypocrisy that permeates this budget document and makes the president’s calls for “fairness” ring hollow.

His spending “cuts” included in the budget do not touch entitlements, forcing the nation’s defense to take the brunt of the cutbacks. The defense budget will fall 4%. In practical terms, it means slashing eight Army combat brigades, six Marine Corps battalions and 11 fighter squadrons, and will start to pull two Army brigades out of Europe.

Meanwhile, the Department of Energy becomes a huge winner, increasing its budget a whopping 41% — mostly to fund Obama’s green energy fiascoes. The Department of Justice makes out a big loser, with its budget falling 15%. But it is where the cuts will be made that will rile Republicans. The president proposes to massively cut a program that reimburses states and cities for jailing illegal immigrants for committing crimes. Funding would fall from $240 million to just $70 million.

The Hispanic vote is vital to his re-election and allowing illegal aliens who have committed crimes out on bail or to simply disappear will no doubt sit well with liberal Latino groups who have been agitating against enforcing any of the nation’s immigration laws.

For some reason, the president is proposing a big increase for the Commerce Department. This useless federal bureaucracy will get a $10 billion gift “to help build an interoperable public safety broadband network.” Critics point out that the government has already spent $13 billion on radio equipment since 2001 and that a public auction of frequencies — ostensibly to recover the costs of the program — won’t realize nearly enough to pay for it.

Agency after agency, department after department, will see new spending. For the Department of Transportation, a pork-laden, five-year $476 billion highway bill and a $50 billion “infusion” for roads, bridges and other transportation infrastructure. Did we mention the $47 billion for high speed rail? Such trivialities are an asterisk in this budget.

Foreign aid gets a boost, including $800 million for the “Arab Spring.” The president wants to create a “Middle East and North Africa Incentive Fund” — explained in the budget document as a fund that “will provide incentives for long-term economic, political, and trade reforms to countries in transition — and to countries prepared to make reforms proactively.” Analysts are unsure if this is “new money” or simply collecting cash from other programs and placing it in a fund with a new name.

No comment yet from the Muslim Brotherhood whether Shariah finance rules will allow them to participate in the “incentives for reform” in economic, political, and trade matters.

Meanwhile, Medicare and Medicaid spending continues its unsustainable pace, rising 9% in FY2013. The administration is claiming $360 billion in savings as a result of paying doctors and hospitals less for Medicare services — the old “doc fix” that is added to HHS budgets every year and is shot down every year by Congress and the AMA.

One might expect the “green” energy initiatives, the defense cuts, and the massive increase in transportation spending where Obama’s union allies will get a windfall. But it is how the president wants to raise taxes that the class warfare theme of his campaign for re-election and, what can only be described as his hatred for the successful, the entrepreneur, the savvy investor, and the small business person, becomes apparent.

Larry Kudlow sums up a few of the tax increases in Obama’s budget:

The capital-gains tax goes from 15 percent to 24 percent (including Obamacare). The dividends tax goes from 15 percent to nearly 40 percent, and that’s not including the double tax on corporate profits embodied in dividends and capital gains. The Bush tax cuts for top earners are repealed. There’s the 30 percent Buffett-rule minimum tax on millionaires. The carried-interest tax for private equity, hedge funds, and other investment partnerships goes from 15 to 39.6 percent. The estate tax jumps to 45 percent. Oil and gas companies get hit. And there’s probably more stuff in there I haven’t read yet. (Jimmy P. lays it out nicely.) Paul Ryan’s press release calls it $1.9 trillion tax hike, with $47 trillion in government spending over the next decade and the fourth straight year of trillion-dollar deficits.

Oil and gas companies will lose subsidies, which is the same thing as a tax increase and will make energy more expensive. And if you are going to die and want to pass on your estate or small business relatively intact, it would be better to go sooner rather than later. After an estate is taxed every year for purposes of income (and taxed when the money is first earned), Obama doesn’t believe that is enough. Before it is passed on to your children or spouse, it must be taxed again with nearly half of your life’s work going to the government.

Thus is “fairness” served in Obama’s eyes.

Perhaps the most egregious bit of deceitful and fraudulent budgeting is in the “savings” Obama is claiming from ending the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. The administration puts that figure at a nonsensical $850 billion. Even his allies are embarrassed to defend this bit of tripe. It’s as if they pulled the number out of thin air, believing no one would notice. Since it is a fairy tale number, there is little doubt Obama’s deficit projections are also in the realm of fantasy.

Writing at the AEI blog, James Pethokoukis surveys the wreckage:

All in all, Obama has proposed some $1.6 trillion in new taxes over ten years, taking tax revenue as a share of GDP to 20.1 percent in 2022 vs. a historical average of 18 percent. And despite all those new taxes, Obama’s plan would still add $6.7 trillion in new debt and make no progress in lowering the nation’s total debt levels as a share of output. The debt-to-GDP ratio is predicted to be 74.2 percent this year and 76.5 percent in 2022.

At the same time, federal spending would never fall below 22 percent of GDP. Indeed, Obama — if he serves two terms — would be the first U.S. president in history to spend 22.0 percent or more of GDP for eight straight years (and then beyond). And keep in mind that these debt and spending numbers claim about $850 billion in savings from unwinding the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, spending about a quarter of those phony “savings” on highway funding.

Pethokoukis also points out the cynically dishonest projections for economic growth upon which much of the budget is based: 3.4% growth in 2015, 4.1% in 2016, 4.1% inn 2017, and 3.9% in 2018. Pethokoukis notes that the “U.S. economy has only seen a run like that three times in the past four decades. And the Obama Boom is supposed to happen amid rising tax rates, interest rates, and debt? Good luck, Mr. President.”

No, James. Good luck to us. We’re going to need it if we’re going to survive this assault on capitalism from a president who has presided over the worst economy in nearly 80 years.

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Re: Obama Budget Deficit for 2012 - $1.33 Trillion Dollars
« Reply #33 on: February 14, 2012, 07:22:37 AM »
We've said it before, all tax revenue that will be "Gained" from a tax increase will go towards more spending.

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Re: Obama Budget Deficit for 2012 - $1.33 Trillion Dollars
« Reply #34 on: February 14, 2012, 08:02:14 AM »
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Re: Obama Budget Deficit for 2012 - $1.33 Trillion Dollars
« Reply #35 on: February 14, 2012, 08:07:59 AM »
4 trillion in cuts over 10 years.

how have repubs responded? 

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Re: Obama Budget Deficit for 2012 - $1.33 Trillion Dollars
« Reply #36 on: February 14, 2012, 08:09:20 AM »
4 trillion in cuts over 10 years.

how have repubs responded? 

Please, you don't buy into that propaganda, do you?  ::)

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Re: Obama Budget Deficit for 2012 - $1.33 Trillion Dollars
« Reply #37 on: February 14, 2012, 08:13:41 AM »
Please, you don't buy into that propaganda, do you?  ::)

Of course he does.

By the way - Obama knows this sham is going nowhere as well as the fact that he can't shackle spending of future presidents or congresses 10 years out.    Its all a tailor made like made for obamabots like 240. 

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Re: Obama Budget Deficit for 2012 - $1.33 Trillion Dollars
« Reply #38 on: February 14, 2012, 08:17:34 AM »
Obama’s Tax Insanity
FrontPage Magazine ^ | February 14, 2012 | Rick Moran





President Obama unveiled his budget for Fiscal Year 2013 on Monday and threw down the gauntlet to Republicans, daring them to oppose his idea of “fairness” in an election year — ideas that, as he will frame the debate, will no doubt be popular with many Americans. Indeed, as CNN’s Alan Silverleib points out in his analysis, “It’s all about election year 2012, not fiscal year 2013.”

It is an extraordinary document. Not because it has a ghost of a chance of becoming law, but because it reveals themes and issues the president plans to run on in the fall, while exposing the rancid nature of Obama’s redistributionist ideas: taking, taking – and then taking some more — from those who produce and create the nation’s wealth and jobs all in the name of a cynically dishonest notion of “fairness.”

It is also extraordinary because in a year that the administration projects the government will run a deficit of $901 billion dollars (a rosy scenario considering Obama has yet to come anywhere close to achieving his deficit goals), the president is proposing hundreds of billions of dollars in new spending. In essence, Mr. Obama is not taxing producers in an effort to slow the runaway spending and deficits his policies have caused. He is going to use those new found revenues in a bid to buy votes by divvying up the extra cash among favored constituencies.

Obama said his budget would “renew the American values of fair play and shared responsibility.” But how does he square that with the “values” of the president and his party where cronyism, political favoritism, and corruption dominate the landscape? How does the president get away with talking about “fair play” and “playing by the same rules” when his party continuously demonstrates a predilection for favoring groups based not on merit, but on the color of their skin, their ethnicity, their sexual preference, their gender, and their affiliation – or not – with a union? It is this kind of hypocrisy that permeates this budget document and makes the president’s calls for “fairness” ring hollow.

His spending “cuts” included in the budget do not touch entitlements, forcing the nation’s defense to take the brunt of the cutbacks. The defense budget will fall 4%. In practical terms, it means slashing eight Army combat brigades, six Marine Corps battalions and 11 fighter squadrons, and will start to pull two Army brigades out of Europe.

Meanwhile, the Department of Energy becomes a huge winner, increasing its budget a whopping 41% — mostly to fund Obama’s green energy fiascoes. The Department of Justice makes out a big loser, with its budget falling 15%. But it is where the cuts will be made that will rile Republicans. The president proposes to massively cut a program that reimburses states and cities for jailing illegal immigrants for committing crimes. Funding would fall from $240 million to just $70 million.

The Hispanic vote is vital to his re-election and allowing illegal aliens who have committed crimes out on bail or to simply disappear will no doubt sit well with liberal Latino groups who have been agitating against enforcing any of the nation’s immigration laws.

For some reason, the president is proposing a big increase for the Commerce Department. This useless federal bureaucracy will get a $10 billion gift “to help build an interoperable public safety broadband network.” Critics point out that the government has already spent $13 billion on radio equipment since 2001 and that a public auction of frequencies — ostensibly to recover the costs of the program — won’t realize nearly enough to pay for it.

Agency after agency, department after department, will see new spending. For the Department of Transportation, a pork-laden, five-year $476 billion highway bill and a $50 billion “infusion” for roads, bridges and other transportation infrastructure. Did we mention the $47 billion for high speed rail? Such trivialities are an asterisk in this budget.

Foreign aid gets a boost, including $800 million for the “Arab Spring.” The president wants to create a “Middle East and North Africa Incentive Fund” — explained in the budget document as a fund that “will provide incentives for long-term economic, political, and trade reforms to countries in transition — and to countries prepared to make reforms proactively.” Analysts are unsure if this is “new money” or simply collecting cash from other programs and placing it in a fund with a new name.

No comment yet from the Muslim Brotherhood whether Shariah finance rules will allow them to participate in the “incentives for reform” in economic, political, and trade matters.

Meanwhile, Medicare and Medicaid spending continues its unsustainable pace, rising 9% in FY2013. The administration is claiming $360 billion in savings as a result of paying doctors and hospitals less for Medicare services — the old “doc fix” that is added to HHS budgets every year and is shot down every year by Congress and the AMA.

One might expect the “green” energy initiatives, the defense cuts, and the massive increase in transportation spending where Obama’s union allies will get a windfall. But it is how the president wants to raise taxes that the class warfare theme of his campaign for re-election and, what can only be described as his hatred for the successful, the entrepreneur, the savvy investor, and the small business person, becomes apparent.

Larry Kudlow sums up a few of the tax increases in Obama’s budget:

The capital-gains tax goes from 15 percent to 24 percent (including Obamacare). The dividends tax goes from 15 percent to nearly 40 percent, and that’s not including the double tax on corporate profits embodied in dividends and capital gains. The Bush tax cuts for top earners are repealed. There’s the 30 percent Buffett-rule minimum tax on millionaires. The carried-interest tax for private equity, hedge funds, and other investment partnerships goes from 15 to 39.6 percent. The estate tax jumps to 45 percent. Oil and gas companies get hit. And there’s probably more stuff in there I haven’t read yet. (Jimmy P. lays it out nicely.) Paul Ryan’s press release calls it $1.9 trillion tax hike, with $47 trillion in government spending over the next decade and the fourth straight year of trillion-dollar deficits.

Oil and gas companies will lose subsidies, which is the same thing as a tax increase and will make energy more expensive. And if you are going to die and want to pass on your estate or small business relatively intact, it would be better to go sooner rather than later. After an estate is taxed every year for purposes of income (and taxed when the money is first earned), Obama doesn’t believe that is enough. Before it is passed on to your children or spouse, it must be taxed again with nearly half of your life’s work going to the government.

Thus is “fairness” served in Obama’s eyes.

Perhaps the most egregious bit of deceitful and fraudulent budgeting is in the “savings” Obama is claiming from ending the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. The administration puts that figure at a nonsensical $850 billion. Even his allies are embarrassed to defend this bit of tripe. It’s as if they pulled the number out of thin air, believing no one would notice. Since it is a fairy tale number, there is little doubt Obama’s deficit projections are also in the realm of fantasy.

Writing at the AEI blog, James Pethokoukis surveys the wreckage:

All in all, Obama has proposed some $1.6 trillion in new taxes over ten years, taking tax revenue as a share of GDP to 20.1 percent in 2022 vs. a historical average of 18 percent. And despite all those new taxes, Obama’s plan would still add $6.7 trillion in new debt and make no progress in lowering the nation’s total debt levels as a share of output. The debt-to-GDP ratio is predicted to be 74.2 percent this year and 76.5 percent in 2022.

At the same time, federal spending would never fall below 22 percent of GDP. Indeed, Obama — if he serves two terms — would be the first U.S. president in history to spend 22.0 percent or more of GDP for eight straight years (and then beyond). And keep in mind that these debt and spending numbers claim about $850 billion in savings from unwinding the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, spending about a quarter of those phony “savings” on highway funding.

Pethokoukis also points out the cynically dishonest projections for economic growth upon which much of the budget is based: 3.4% growth in 2015, 4.1% in 2016, 4.1% inn 2017, and 3.9% in 2018. Pethokoukis notes that the “U.S. economy has only seen a run like that three times in the past four decades. And the Obama Boom is supposed to happen amid rising tax rates, interest rates, and debt? Good luck, Mr. President.”

No, James. Good luck to us. We’re going to need it if we’re going to survive this assault on capitalism from a president who has presided over the worst economy in nearly 80 years.

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This cannot be real.
Its simply horrendous. Taxing more not to cover our already huge debt, but to increase spending IN ALL THE WRONG PLACES!?
Hes basically going to take more from people and cut jobs in the military in order to fund his terrible ideological crusades?
How in the holy fuck is this guy President?
This should be a huge asterik in the American history books for this guy - He should be the role model for what happens when people vote based on emotions (hate for Bush and the republicans), without properly vetting a candidate, and because
he was black.

In short - this man represents all the WRONG reasons people vote. And this is what we wound up with.
A man willing to take from those that deserve/earn and give to those who dont deserve just because he says so.
Oh, and take more from the citizens to give to his buddies piece of shit programs that do nothing but hurt people or go bankrupt.

Because fairness now days doesnt mean fairness to those who work hard and deserve what they get - it means everyone gets the same regardless of how hard they work or how they are as a human being.
Disgusting.
/typical rant.

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Re: Obama Budget Deficit for 2012 - $1.33 Trillion Dollars
« Reply #39 on: February 14, 2012, 08:18:41 AM »
4 trillion in cuts over 10 years.

how have repubs responded? 
ITS NOT 4 TRILLION IN CUTS!!1
Its 4 trillion cut of the proposed INCREASES, if I am reading it correctly.
Which means its not actually cutting anything at all. Were still at a net increase in spending. Just not as big as they want it to be.  ::)

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Re: Obama Budget Deficit for 2012 - $1.33 Trillion Dollars
« Reply #40 on: February 14, 2012, 08:21:04 AM »
I really don't know why anyone is surprised by Obama's fiscal immorality.  The asshole never held a job in his life, never worked, was handed everything on a platter, never ran so much as a lemonade stand, surrounded himself with communists and socialists his entire life, etc. 

I warned everyone in 2008 and it fell on deaf ears. 

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Re: Obama Budget Deficit for 2012 - $1.33 Trillion Dollars
« Reply #41 on: February 14, 2012, 08:23:32 AM »
ITS NOT 4 TRILLION IN CUTS!!1
Its 4 trillion cut of the proposed INCREASES, if I am reading it correctly.
Which means its not actually cutting anything at all. Were still at a net increase in spending. Just not as big as they want it to be.  ::)

Actually, it was SUPPOSED to be a $10 trillion increase in the national debt... now it's a $6 trillion increase. So in DC that counts as a "cut."

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Re: Obama Budget Deficit for 2012 - $1.33 Trillion Dollars
« Reply #42 on: February 14, 2012, 08:24:08 AM »
ITS NOT 4 TRILLION IN CUTS!!1
Its 4 trillion cut of the proposed INCREASES, if I am reading it correctly.
Which means its not actually cutting anything at all. Were still at a net increase in spending. Just not as big as they want it to be.  ::)

You're reading it completely right, Shockwave.

These aren't cuts, the "Debt Ceiling Battle" cuts aren't cuts. The budget is, by law enacted in the 1970's, increased every single year. Hence, these "cuts" aren't cuts at all, they are simply a slowdown in future spending increases.

-The budget still grows enormously.
-The debt load still grows enormously
-The deficit will still be historically huge
-Govt. still grows
-The budget still grows.

I've posted the CBO projections on this very board that shows this. If anyone falls for this nonsense whether it be from Left or Right you deserve to be smacked around. This is all a shell game.

The first step towards fixing this is freezing current spending levels and budget size and then cutting from there.

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Re: Obama Budget Deficit for 2012 - $1.33 Trillion Dollars
« Reply #43 on: February 14, 2012, 08:44:02 AM »
You're reading it completely right, Shockwave.

These aren't cuts, the "Debt Ceiling Battle" cuts aren't cuts. The budget is, by law enacted in the 1970's, increased every single year. Hence, these "cuts" aren't cuts at all, they are simply a slowdown in future spending increases.

-The budget still grows enormously.
-The debt load still grows enormously
-The deficit will still be historically huge
-Govt. still grows
-The budget still grows.

I've posted the CBO projections on this very board that shows this. If anyone falls for this nonsense whether it be from Left or Right you deserve to be smacked around. This is all a shell game.

The first step towards fixing this is freezing current spending levels and budget size and then cutting from there.
I agree with this, but theyll never allow it to happen - theyve already showed theyre willing to take as much from the citizens as they can. Look at that article about the budge.
Cutting huge number of jobs in the military (which is only going to increase unemployement at home once those people are forced out) and taxing citizens more without so much as cutting a single dollar from their bastard programs.

Theyll never freeze anything - theyll never cut anything. Theyre increasing taxes, and for what? Not to "fix" things, but to spend MORE!!! More on shit that isnt/doesnt do a damn thing for the citizens of this country.

Increasing government spending, size, and reach through increasing taxes and cutting military jobs does NOT FIX the debt or economy! Theyre just pissing on us and laughing! Jesus Christ the corruption in our government is disgusting. Just disgusting.

All I see is in Obamas proposed "budget" is government growing in size by taking peoples hard earned money, and making people more and more dependant on them as a result.
How long until they just take every dollar we earn and turn around and dish out a "fair" allowance to everyone? Isnt that Obamas definition of "fairness"?

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Re: Obama Budget Deficit for 2012 - $1.33 Trillion Dollars
« Reply #44 on: February 14, 2012, 09:36:40 AM »
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Re: Obama Budget Deficit for 2012 - $1.33 Trillion Dollars
« Reply #45 on: February 14, 2012, 10:15:12 AM »
The Cost of Obama
Feb 14, 2012 •
By JEFFREY H. ANDERSON

 
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/painful-cost-obama_629745.html


           
     
    President Obama’s fourth budget has now been released, which allows for a relatively full accounting of deficit spending during his four years in office. The picture isn’t pretty, but it is revealing.



According to the White House’s own figures (see table S-1 here for 2011 to 2013, and table S-1 here for 2010), the actual or projected deficit tallies for the four years in which Obama has submitted budgets are as follows: $1.293 trillion in 2010, $1.300 trillion in 2011, $1.327 trillion in 2012, and $901 billion in 2013.  In addition, Obama is responsible for the estimated $200 billion (the Congressional Budget Office’s figure) that his economic “stimulus” added to the deficit in 2009.  Moreover, he shouldn’t get credit for the $149 billion in TARP (Troubled Asset Relief Program) repayments made in 2010 and 2011 to cover most of the $154 billion in bank loans that remained unpaid at the end of the 2009 fiscal year — loans that count against President Bush’s 2009 deficit tally.

Adding all of this up, deficit spending during Obama’s four years in the White House (based on his own figures) will be an estimated $5.170 trillion — or $5,170,000,000,000.00.

To help put that colossal sum of money into perspective, if you take our deficit spending under Obama and divide it evenly among the roughly 300 million American citizens, that works out to just over $17,000 per person — or about $70,000 for a family of four.






The previous record for most deficit spending during a presidency was set by President George W. Bush (see table 1.3 in the White House’s Historic Tables). During Bush’s 8-year administration, total deficit spending was $3.402 trillion. That’s a truly extraordinary and reckless sum. It’s also $1.768 trillion less than deficit spending in just four years under Obama. Per year, deficits under Bush averaged $425 billion. Per year, deficits under Obama (according to his own numbers) will average $1.293 trillion — or more than three times as much.

Because the gross domestic product (GDP) nearly always grows from year to year, the most favorable way to view Obama’s deficit spending is as a percentage of GDP. Surely he can’t look as bad in that light, right?

Well, prior to Obama, our annual deficit spending had only exceeded 6.0 percent of GDP during the Civil War, World War I, and World War II. Except during those huge conflicts, our deficits had never exceeded 6.0 percent of GDP in any year — not during the Great Depression, not at the height of the Cold War defense buildup, not ever. But that’s no longer the case. During Obama’s four years in the White House (and, again, using his own numbers), annual deficit spending will average 8.4 percent of GDP.

That’s nearly double the average annual level of deficit spending under any other post-War president. As the following chart shows, this has truly been a historic presidency — more profligate than any other by far:


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Re: Obama Budget Deficit for 2012 - $1.33 Trillion Dollars
« Reply #46 on: February 14, 2012, 10:37:13 AM »
Yes, it's cuts against proposed increases in spending.  Honestly, this is washington bullshit spin.  Its still increasing the deficit every year.  They needed to pass a balanced budget amendment, entitlement reform and massive spending reductions across the board and should have included closing tax loopholes and grants for big corporations as something to give way on.

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« Reply #47 on: February 14, 2012, 10:49:28 AM »
Yes, it's cuts against proposed increases in spending.  Honestly, this is washington bullshit spin.  Its still increasing the deficit every year.  They needed to pass a balanced budget amendment, entitlement reform and massive spending reductions across the board and should have included closing tax loopholes and grants for big corporations as something to give way on.
Never happen. Theyd have to change their way of doing things, and thats just not how the government rolls bro. The government now is paid for by the people, for the politicians. Its not by the people for the people anymore.
Were just dollars signs now methinks. Dollar signs and votes.

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Re: Obama Budget Deficit for 2012 - $1.33 Trillion Dollars
« Reply #48 on: February 14, 2012, 10:53:43 AM »
Yes, it's cuts against proposed increases in spending.  Honestly, this is washington bullshit spin.  Its still increasing the deficit every year.  They needed to pass a balanced budget amendment, entitlement reform and massive spending reductions across the board and should have included closing tax loopholes and grants for big corporations as something to give way on.

Why pass a balanced budget amendment which requires a 2/3 vote when you can pass a balanced budget which requires a 50% + 1 vote?

Hint: It's all a charade.

That said, the balanced budget amendment that was being pushed by the Congressional Republicans was pretty good. It had limits on spending and taxes in addition to a balanced budget requirement.

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Re: Obama Budget Deficit for 2012 - $1.33 Trillion Dollars
« Reply #49 on: February 14, 2012, 02:06:43 PM »
Ron Paul: Americans should be 'outraged' with Obama budget
By Justin Sink - 02/14/12 04:28 PM ET
   
The Hill


Ron Paul said Tuesday that Americans should be "outraged" over President Obama's 2013 budget proposal and echoed fellow Republicans in arguing that the plan fell short of the president's promises to reduce deficit spending.

"For the fourth year in a row our federal budget deficit will exceed $1 trillion, and President Obama is offering us a budget plan that will continue digging us deeper into this debt hole," said Pau in a statement. "This budget contains a massive tax increase, and President Obama’s policies of more debt and taxes will make the jobs crisis facing the nation much worse than the employment crisis we are facing."

Paul went on to lambast Obama — and his Republican opponents — for failing to take "the debt seriously."


 “The debt should be priority number one, for everybody. It is for me. But it doesn’t seem to be for the people in charge," Paul said.

The president's plan has earned widespread criticism from Republicans, who have charged that the budget does little to address entitlement reform. But the White House insisted Monday that they addressed spending cuts in a serious way.

“I don’t think we take a pass,” Acting Budget Director Jeff Zients told reporters Monday.

Still, the plan drew a chorus of criticism from Republicans on Capitol Hill - including Rep. Jeb Hensarling, who served as co-chairman of the Joint Select Committee on Deficit Reduction, which failed in its mandate to find $1.6 trillion in cuts.

"I'm bitterly disappointed in two respects. No. 1, the president told us that at the end of his first term he would cut the deficit in half," Hensarling said on CNN. "Second of all, there's a debt crisis and the president's budget doesn't deal with it."

Rep. Paul said his economic plan — which calls for more than $1 trillion in cuts within the first year of a hypothetical Ron Paul presidency — was necessary to fix the country's budget woes.

“There are some like the President who believe we can simply tax ourselves out of this predicament, I totally disagree. Washington does not have a revenue problem, it has a spending problem. So, it doesn’t matter how much we raise taxes, if we do not cure our disease of overspending we will not end the vicious cycle of borrowing and printing well beyond our means," Paul said.