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Alpha Brain supplement outed - no science behind it
« on: February 12, 2012, 09:02:33 AM »


TL/DR version Rogan is in cahoots with this conman named Aubrey Marcus(formerly Chris Marcus), and they sell something called "Alpha Brain"(hahahahah). Trying to pimp it on his own forum, Aubrey and Joe had no success and Aubrey sent in shills to infiltrate the forum and give positive reviews on the item, and drown out opposition.

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So on the podcast Joe had this guy named Aubrey Marcus. Talked about the usual, Ayhascua (however the hell you spell it) trips in South America, yada yada. The guy runs a supplement company, and one of his items is called "Alpha Brain". Joe is giving this guy his financial backing and endorsement and now when referring to this company speaks of it as "we are doing this, we are doing that".

I wander back to the forum for the first time since about 09 or so the other day and see this guy signs up for the forum and tries to market it to people. He flips out when people don't buy it and the crap he says, starts cursing and telling them that they have tiny dicks and are fat So people start doing research on the guy and his product.

First of all, the dude....he runs 30+ other websites and shit, including marketing for the fleshlight, which is what sponsors Rogan's podcast. "Alpha Nail polish" for men, "Alpha shirts" etc. Talk about fake gold mining companies. Turns out one of his websites is a known phishing site. He denies that he has any activity with it anymore, and a "hacker" took it over. He is busted for lying for because he was soliciting help for it on twitter long after the date he said he stopped using it. Turns out he is a trust fund baby, whose dad has tens of millions of dollars, and the "science expert" who endorses the product with him that he touts on his website is none other than....his mom. And she isn't a doctor, but a naturopath and homeopath who specializes in eastern herbs or some shit. Turns out his "Onnit Labs" isn't really a lab, and he wouldn't reveal where the stuff comes from(I think he eventually said Vancouver). There is no company address, no scientists either.

The product.... there is absolutely no science backing it, and the guy has no idea what he was talking about. He was chewed up and spit out by the people there. He says he will run testing on it in the future, which of course caused people to respond with "aren't you supposed to do that first?". He includes L-Dopa in it, which messes with people's dopamine(happy drug...why we like beating off and snorting coke so much), and is a drug which is given to people with Parkinson's. It is apparently available only by subscription, but he found a loophole around it with this herb that creates it. Too much dopamine you become schizo, too little almost comatose. Supplementing can damage your body's receptors and regulation of this. This is serious shit he messing with. He was even called out for being a quack by someone working in Yale neurobiology in an article. His response he added to his faq according to his "science adviser"?

Many of the few dolts who actually bought it got sick on it, want their money back..."customer service" (some dude named "Barry" or some shit ) never answered them back for like 3 weeks after making dozens of posts(of course Joe and Aubrey ignored those). Aubrey responds by changing the formula and basically saying it is a work in progress....Dude is capitalizing with Rogan on fucking with people's brain chemistry and using them as guinea pigs when he has no idea what he is doing. Fuck them.

Then, THEN! After this guy is getting destroyed from all angles, by people who understand the science behind this far better than I do, people who chastise his shady past and other businesses and marketing practices, Rogan swoops in, ban hammer falls on multiple people, and a bunch of 1 post people come in saying how great this stuff is, and they never post again. Everyone's suspicion goes up, and then...




hahahahaha. So fucking outrageous. Joe is STILL defending this guy, and calling people ****s who disagree with him. Now some guy who is Onnit's "Science Advisor" has joined the board, and he is answering questions that Aubrey couldn't....except he isn't answering anything either...probably because he is a facebook intern who doesn't know shit. But Joe has stickied the thread. It is hilarious. This is after a 160 page initial thread, and a 30 page second try. All fails. Now this is their new angle. It really goes even farther than what I wrote. Default there is 20 posts a page. 160 + 30 + 30 in the new one...you do the math. The exchanges are priceless. Epicness in those threads that bests "Me and mah boys at UFC 56" from Sherdog.

"Aubrey responds to onnit Alpha Brain questions in this thread"
"Onnit Labs Questions And Answers NEW"
"Introducing Onnit™ Scientific Advisor- Answers to Questions on AlphaBRAIN™& Formulas"



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Re: Alpha Brain supplement outed
« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2012, 09:04:18 AM »
If you need to buys sups for your Brain.........NOTHING ELSE TO  SAY
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Re: Alpha Brain supplement outed
« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2012, 09:05:14 AM »

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Re: Alpha Brain supplement outed
« Reply #3 on: February 12, 2012, 09:05:59 AM »
Id like to add I find Joe Rogan very annoying as a commentator and a person

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Re: Alpha Brain supplement outed
« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2012, 10:05:20 AM »
There is a whole subculture of people who take "supplements" for their brain. These "supplements" are called nootropics and some of them are potent chemicals.

"Life extensionists" have their own forums- they do the standard subculture thing that people do on bodybuilding forums. This sort of thing has been gaining ground since the early 2000s.

L-dopa, along with deprenyl are a staple of nootropic regiments.

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Re: Alpha Brain supplement outed
« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2012, 10:12:44 AM »
There is a whole subculture of people who take "supplements" for their brain. These "supplements" are called nootropics and some of them are potent chemicals.

"Life extensionists" have their own forums- they do the standard subculture thing that people do on bodybuilding forums. This sort of thing has been gaining ground since the early 2000s.

L-dopa, along with deprenyl are a staple of nootropic regiments.
At least the hormonas actually work...this is just dumb.  Its like celltech for the brain.

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Re: Alpha Brain supplement outed
« Reply #6 on: February 12, 2012, 10:36:01 AM »
GPC Choline is only legit ingredient in there that I know. Helps combat mental fatigue but GABA? Thats script stuff.
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Re: Alpha Brain supplement outed
« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2012, 11:05:27 AM »
high dose  5-HTP works great for mood/sense of well being