well Iv done a cutting cycle with tren and mast. when i added in winny inj. at 50/day I didnt notice a single difference. Maybe I should try it on its own I just get paranoid with all the joint and cholesterol issues I hear with it
Winny can definitely have a negative impact on your cholesterol, even so, if your cholesterol levels are proper before you start Winny, if you're careful with your diet most guys should stay in the realm of safety. Omega fatty acids definitely help.
Joint pain...this is a fairly overrated concern IMO. It's definitely one of those things that seems to effect a lot of guys differently, and while this is impossible to prove I'd be willing to bet more people DO NOT have joint issues based on all the athletes who actually use Winstrol regularly.
The conditioning effects, to truly benefit from them you need to already be pretty lean. If you run it alone or simply without another steroid that can harden your physique, you should notice some improvement, but they really won't shine through until your at contest ready leanness. If you're dieting and running Tren and are in that 7-9% BF range, sure, I doubt you'd notice much of a difference...you start getting into that 5% range and then you should notice it.