My before and after pics

[Meso_z]

200lbs was the sweet spot imo.

Great transformation sebastian. 

[magikusar]

LOOLz

[no one]

what a disaster. 2g of gear a week to look like an average gymrat. 

all this coming from a guy who claim 'super response to gear' ahahahaha crawl back in your hole now gypsy and know your role here.

[Cleanest Natural]

what a disaster. 2g of gear a week to look like an average gymrat. 

all this coming from a guy who claim 'super response to gear' ahahahaha crawl back in your hole now gypsy and know your role here.

my average was 1.5 grams a week for 8 weeks ... I took 2 grams for exactly one week

I love how you twist shit to justify your anger at my superior response 

[no one]

my average was 1.5 grams a week for 8 weeks ... I took 2 grams for exactly one week

I love how you twist shit to justify your anger at my superior response  

yes. superior response. we all see your 'superior response' at work. well done. lol

guy, get this thru your head cause you're fucking delusional as fuck- you dont have 'superior response'. putting on 30 pounds of water and fat does not constitute a response of any kind other than a response to big mac combos.

tell you what gypsy- since you have so readily proven here that you are below average at best, leave being big and lean to the real men, who can run 2g cycles and walk around at 250/6%bf and stick to cross fit and looking bi-afran, cause you sure as shit dont have the genetics for fuck all else, sport.

[Cleanest Natural]

auch 700 tren and still around 8-10%. that aint good man. EIther your food is not good or something else.

You should be sitting at around 5-6% easy with 700 tren even if it was half fake

so you will lean out on tren after 1 week? read my cycle again 

[Red Hook]

What was your cycle?

Sev, good job, to be be honest I prefer the first pic..if you added about 10lbs more and also lost the loose skin then it would look great look.

also, why not just run minimal HGH?

[Cleanest Natural]

Sev, good job, to be be honest I prefer the first pic..if you added about 10lbs more and also lost the loose skin then it would look great look.

also, why not just run minimal HGH?

I just wanted to do a transformation .. normally I look like the first pic with fuller muscles. I was mega depleted and flat there. The pic is unflattering. Here's another one

[King Shizzo]

I just wanted to do a transformation .. normally I look like the first pic with fuller muscles. I was mega depleted and flat there. The pic is unflattering. Here's another one

Thats what a normal natural ectomorph is supposed to look like.  It actually looks like you have shit genetics, or you starved yourself and didnt train at all.  You have no ab development 

[King Shizzo]

   Nice video Sev.  You look better at this weight.
 

[Cleanest Natural]

Thats what a normal natural ectomorph is supposed to look like.  It actually looks like you have shit genetics, or you starved yourself and didnt train at all.  You have no ab development 

you can always post your pic to show me "how it's done" 

[King Shizzo]

you can always post your pic to show me "how it's done"  

Lol, no need to.  I look like shit right now.  But your before and after pics don't do anything but prove your little experiment.  That ANYONE will get bigger and leaner on drugs. Quickly!

[DK II]

Lol, no need to.  I look like shit right now.  But your before and after pics don't do anything but prove your little experiment.  That ANYONE will get bigger and leaner on drugs. Quickly!

Wasn't that the purpose of the whole thing?

[King Shizzo]

you can always post your pic to show me "how it's done" 

I know this statement has been played out but:  You give me three months with your stack, and I bet I can show you an incredible transformation as well.  It doesn't prove anything but what all of us already know.  P.S. somebody please pm me! I'm looking for a bicycle.

[King Shizzo]

Wasn't that the purpose of the whole thing?

According to him.  Which is why I don't know why he was bragging all the way up to this point.  Anyone will look considerably better with the stack he took.

[L.L]

the gypsy is living proof that in most cases drugs are not everything..!!

[King Shizzo]

By the way Sev i'm not hating.  You did improve considerably, but its all for nothing if you are just going to waste your progress.  You should dial it down and tweak some things here and there, but don't just quite all together.

[Cleanest Natural]

I know this statement has been played out but:  You give me three months with your stack, and I bet I can show you an incredible transformation as well.  It doesn't prove anything but what all of us already know.  P.S. somebody please pm me! I'm looking for a bicycle.

I did it. You ... are "talking about what would happen if bla bla" .. this is the difference between us "bro" 

[L.L]

^^^ no seriously , i just fucking with him but i can put anybody on a high calorie diet and intense training and make almost the same gains servacios did without all the drugs..

[BigCyp]

All scrap metal

[King Shizzo]

I did it. You ... are "talking about what would happen if bla bla" .. this is the difference between us "bro" 

I'll give you the  difference.  I don't know where I can find an honest source!  I would like to just to take some orals (Winny, Dbol) first.  I just don't know where to look.

[Cleanest Natural]

^^^ no seriously , i just fucking with him but i can put anybody on a high calorie diet and intense training and make almost the same gains servacios did without all the drugs..

you are an idiot .. you came back for more abuse?

[Cleanest Natural]

I'll give you the  difference.  I don't know where I can find an honest source!  I would like to just to take some orals (Winny, Dbol) first.  I just don't know where to look.

dog ate my camera etc etc .. you are all talk .. post a pic in your best ever shape or stfu ...

[L.L]

you are an idiot .. you came back for more abuse?

..im the idiot?? lol...says the guy on 2 g of steroids for no reason and looking like a bag of pure shit..lol..

[dj181]

I ate anything and MAYBE 100 g of protein daily on average .. diet is irrelevant and so is training ... drugs are EVERYTHING.

after you take calories into consideration then "diet" is irrelevant, but do you really believe that training is irrelevant too?